Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon (formerly GoT Thread)

Yeah that really bothered me too... Jon could have totally jumped on that dragon with Dany and it would not have made one ounce of difference to the plot. Instead they just had him fall through the ice as a way to just write Benjen out of the story.

She wouldn't have seen his scars then.

you're gonna feel real silly when we find out the night king isn't evil. in all honesty has he done anything evil? 

Yeah I've seen/read a fair amount about what his motivations might be. But as the story stands right now, it is a battle between good and evil. A mute ice demon who raises the dead and sends them to slaughter humans mercilessly wasn't the kind of drama that got me invested in GoT, and it feels like they're sacrificing the development of other interesting stories at this one's expense.

Sure it could end up as one of those situations where they have some big reveal next season and then when you watch back everything takes on a different context, but there's also an equal if not greater chance that that's not the case and they'll just defeat the Night King and that'll be that.

He's arguably telepathic, and there are lots of sci-fi/fantasy examples of misunderstood mute-telepathic characters. We've seen on screen he isn't a demon; he is either the first man turned walker by the CotF, or some decedent of him by way of turning babies (he also didn't just crush the baby The Mountain style, but raised it as his own Ned style). We've also know that the walkers have let that dude from the wall escape, let sam escape, and had some kind of deal with Craster (further evidenced by the Craster looking spear getter walker). In a lot of ways, what he's doing is only so different than euron taking a ship and taking the prisoners as his army. He also has allowed Jon to escape twice now. Jon specifically, the only person who's seemed to lay eyes on him more than once and still come after him, if the NK is than it's obvious why, but if it's just a turned man, then it's maybe a little more complex. At the very least NK has a need to be seen and has done dramatic things, the symbols early in the series*, the raise everyone at once specifically while the humans watch, Randy Johnson-ing the dragon out of the sky, he's definitely not this "kill all humans argh!" monster.

Will Sir Pounce be there?

I'm sure there are "Very Fine People on Both Sides".

One of the things I agreed with in your complaints before it aired was the "too many fakeouts" with deaths.

I thought it was absolutely absurd to tease that Jon again was a goner and THEN have them bring back Benjen who decides (for no real reason) NOT to hop on the back of the horse he just put Jon on. I know he says "There's no time" but that's bullshit. The path Jon took was pretty clear and his sacrifice buys them what? A minute or so?

There was no reason for Benjen to say "There's no time" unless he was already being grabbed/pulled away by the walkers.

Another thing I thought about.

Early on when those random redshirts started getting destroyed by the bear.....were they walking with the group that left the wall in last episode? Or was it mentioned where they came from in the beginning of this and I missed it? I definitely was having a hard time following who was getting fucked up by the bear but then started realizing it was a few no-names and that made the stakes feel less important.

As much as I don't want to see characters I love die I have seen a few articles that point out (and I agree with) how the show used to be one where nobody was safe but in this season they seem to hold off on killing popular characters. Like....I don't want Bronn or Tormund to die. But they both had very clear moments in the past few (Bronn burnt by the dragon, Tormund captured by Wights) that would have been epic ways to go out and also brutal like some of the early season's deaths. I would have been interested to see Tyrion struggle with Dany over killing of Bronn.

Night King is so evil that he's going to marry Cersei and then regret his decision because he'll realize she's even more evil than him.

I can't find a screenshot to back it up right now, but I feel like there was a shot showing the red shirts in episode five. Most of the tight shots were just of the seven named characters, so it's pretty easy to forget about the other guys.

I wanna know which Home Depot those wrights went to get them big ass chains.

Can someone remind me what the reason for the shortened seasons is?