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Covid. Everything dropped like a rock because nobody was even thinking about buying tickets for a year. I remember seeing MCR tix for La be $200 for nosebleeds and they dropped back to $60 in 6 months.
Descendants, Circle Jerks and Adolescents are doing a tour next spring. I guess it’s a makeup from Milo’s heart attack last year. I’m on mobile and can’t post the poster but I’ll put up dates later if no one else gets it. And yeah Ima be there.
05-30 Solana Beach, CA - Belly Up Tavern 05-31 Los Angeles, CA - The Regent Theater 06-01 Pioneertown, CA - Pappy and Harriet’s 06-03 Santa Cruz, CA - The Catalyst Atrium 06-04 San Francisco, CA - The Independent 06-06 Portland, OR - Mississippi Studios 06-07 Vancouver, British Columbia - Rickshaw Theatre 06-08 Seattle, WA - The Crocodile
05-30 Solana Beach, CA - Belly Up Tavern 05-31 Los Angeles, CA - The Regent Theater 06-01 Pioneertown, CA - Pappy and Harriet’s 06-03 Santa Cruz, CA - The Catalyst Atrium 06-04 San Francisco, CA - The Independent 06-06 Portland, OR - Mississippi Studios 06-07 Vancouver, British Columbia - Rickshaw Theatre 06-08 Seattle, WA - The Crocodile
to say "this tour is for the real fans, don't expect to hear the hits" and then charge $1,000 a pop RETAIL for floor seats is embarrassing. and that's coming from a huge fan.
Feel like we went from “cool he’s playing arenas instead of stadiums” to “how dare he charge so much” real fast here
I mean this would be avoided if it wasn’t like a secret how much tickets cost before they go on sale. It’s like my biggest pet peeve about ticket buying. Just tell me the prices up front and then I’ll buy them if I think it’s worth it. Not a Bad Bunny fan at all, just thought how upset I’d be when go to buy and see those prices.
Would you guys rather they sell for low prices just for resellers to make $1000?
I'm going to generally always prefer a lottery system to insanely priced tickets. I go to enough concerts every year that I have an upper limit of what I'll pay for any one concert, there's no one I can think of at this point I'd pay over that upper limit. So if it's well beyond that I'm just not going, so at least with a lottery I have a chance, even if it's a small one.
I get artists wanting a bigger piece of the pie, the resale markets are crazy, though there are things that can be done to fight it that lots of artists aren't doing. But I'm sure some artists feel they earned the demand and maybe they did to an extent so get paid while you can. But man, I pricing that high really is something and I think takes some hubris. I don't think there's an artist on the planet who can put on a single show worth $1000. But that's also my own personal arbitrary line I'm setting, maybe there are people who think some shows are. I know lots of Taylor Swift fans did pay that in resale or would have paid that this year and probably felt they still got a show worth that. And there's probably some people who like one artist so much that price isn't an issue.
The one thing that I think objectively sucks a bit is I do think some of the most popular artists pricing things so high does squeeze the industry a bit because there's only so much expendable income to go around and now a lot of these fans at that show aren't going to go to other live entertainment events because their budgets are blown. But I mean, if the consumers are making that decision, not much you can do
I'll say if those shows don't sell, I won't feel bad. I'm a big Zach Bryan fan at this point and really loved what he did last year with his shows, but definitely feel a bit of a sense of smug "that's what you get" satisfaction looking at how undersold his overpriced stadium show that used dynamic pricing/platinum tickets is here. I wasn't paying those prices
Feel like we went from “cool he’s playing arenas instead of stadiums” to “how dare he charge so much” real fast here
I mean this would be avoided if it wasn’t like a secret how much tickets cost before they go on sale. It’s like my biggest pet peeve about ticket buying. Just tell me the prices up front and then I’ll buy them if I think it’s worth it. Not a Bad Bunny fan at all, just thought how upset I’d be when go to buy and see those prices.
This is definitely an explicitly anti-consumer thing. They know you're more likely to just say screw it and buy the tickets if you went through all the trouble to get into the pre-sale, be there on time, pull good seats, etc. If you see the price ahead of time, you're probably more likely to not go through the trouble.
Lots of scummy businesses do this, make you put in a lot of investment before seeing what the actual price is, because you're more likely to say yes because of the cost of time/effort/whatever you've already put in
I mean this would be avoided if it wasn’t like a secret how much tickets cost before they go on sale. It’s like my biggest pet peeve about ticket buying. Just tell me the prices up front and then I’ll buy them if I think it’s worth it. Not a Bad Bunny fan at all, just thought how upset I’d be when go to buy and see those prices.
This is definitely an explicitly anti-consumer thing. They know you're more likely to just say screw it and buy the tickets if you went through all the trouble to get into the pre-sale, be there on time, pull good seats, etc. If you see the price ahead of time, you're probably more likely to not go through the trouble.
Lots of scummy businesses do this, make you put in a lot of investment before seeing what the actual price is, because you're more likely to say yes because of the cost of time/effort/whatever you've already put in
dont allow resale in the first place, I know people will find ways to make it happen anyways but at least make it hard for the resellers
Or do what The Cure did and only allow resale at face value. It worked very well for their tour.
yup, and they actively went after accounts that were reselling illegally. The responsibility for regulating this shit has to go to the ticketing companies, but we all know Ticketmaster won’t lift a finger unless they’re really up against the wall, and the consumers will continue to get the short end of the stick
dont allow resale in the first place, I know people will find ways to make it happen anyways but at least make it hard for the resellers
Or do what The Cure did and only allow resale at face value. It worked very well for their tour.
Face value exchange doesnt work unless the artists team monitors that shit. Pearl Jam had it and all the tickets on the exchange were fucked. Noah Kahan is the same right now. The Cure called TM on the bullshit when there were $1000 tix coming up and they fix their apparent error.
Feel like we went from “cool he’s playing arenas instead of stadiums” to “how dare he charge so much” real fast here
I mean this would be avoided if it wasn’t like a secret how much tickets cost before they go on sale. It’s like my biggest pet peeve about ticket buying. Just tell me the prices up front and then I’ll buy them if I think it’s worth it. Not a Bad Bunny fan at all, just thought how upset I’d be when go to buy and see those prices.
Kinda wasnt. The pricing chart surfaced for one of the dates a couple days ago so if you were savvy enough to look you would know what was up. So to the 99% of people who cant take a few minutes to search for relevant info, thats on them.
March 2, 2024—San Diego, CA—Petco Park‡ April 3, 2024—Winnipeg, MB—Canada Life Centre+ April 4, 2024—Grand Forks, ND—Alerus Center+ April 6, 2024—Minneapolis, MN—U.S. Bank Stadium^ May 4, 2024—Indianapolis, IN—Lucas Oil Stadium# May 9, 2024—West Palm Beach, FL—iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre~ May 11, 2024—Jacksonville, FL—Everbank Stadium# May 22, 2024—Rapid City, SD—The Monument** May 25, 2024—Ames, IA—Jack Trice Stadium# May 31, 2024—Cleveland, OH—Blossom Music Center** June 1, 2024—Charlotte, NC—Bank of America Stadium# June 6, 2024—Philadelphia, PA—Freedom Mortgage Pavilion†† June 7, 2024—Bristow, VA—Jiffy Lube Live†† June 8, 2024—East Rutherford, NJ—MetLife Stadium# June 12, 2024—Kansas City, MO—T-Mobile Center‡‡ June 26, 2024—Los Angeles, CA—Hollywood Bowl++ June 29, 2024—Salt Lake City, UT—Rice-Eccles Stadium# July 11, 2024—Darien Center, NY— Darien Lake Amphitheater†† July 12, 2024—Pittsburgh, PA—The Pavilion at Star Lake†† July 13, 2024—Detroit, MI—Ford Field# July 18, 2024—Toledo, OH—Huntington Center†† July 19, 2024—Columbus, OH—Schottenstein Center†† July 20, 2024—Chicago, IL—Soldier Field# July 25, 2024—Nampa, ID—Ford Idaho Center Arena^^ July 26, 2024—Portland, OR—RV Inn Styles Resort Amphitheater^^ July 27, 2024—Seattle, WA—T-Mobile Park## August 1, 2024—Gilford, NH—BankNH Pavilion++ August 2, 2024—Gilford, NH—BankNH Pavilion++ August 9, 2024—Nashville, TN—Bridgestone Arena~~ August 21, 2024—Birmingham, AL—The Legacy Arena at the BJCC++ August 22, 2024—Little Rock, AR—Simmons Bank Arena++ October 16, 2024—Manchester, England—AO Arena++ October 17, 2024—Glasgow, Scotland—OVO Hydro Arena++ October 20, 2024—Dublin, Ireland—3Arena++ October 22, 2024—Birmingham, England—Utilita Arena++ October 23, 2024—London, England—The O2++ December 7, 2024—Las Vegas, NV—Allegiant Stadium#
*with special guests Charley Crockett and Nikki Lane †with special guest Nikki Lane ‡with special guests Turnpike Troubadours and Elle King +with special guests The War and Treaty and Allen Stone ^with special guests Lainey Wilson and Marcus King #George Strait and special guest Little Big Town ~with special guests Grace Potter and Nikki Lane **with special guests Marcus King and The War and Treaty ††with special guests Marcus King and Nikki Lane ‡‡with special guests Marcus King and Allen Stone ++with special guests Grace Potter and Allen Stone ^^with special guests Nikki Lane and Allen Stone ##with special guests Willie Nelson and Family and Sheryl Crow ~~with special guests Marty Stuart and Nikki Lane
I mean this would be avoided if it wasn’t like a secret how much tickets cost before they go on sale. It’s like my biggest pet peeve about ticket buying. Just tell me the prices up front and then I’ll buy them if I think it’s worth it. Not a Bad Bunny fan at all, just thought how upset I’d be when go to buy and see those prices.
Kinda wasnt. The pricing chart surfaced for one of the dates a couple days ago so if you were savvy enough to look you would know what was up. So to the 99% of people who cant take a few minutes to search for relevant info, thats on them.
Kinda wasnt. The pricing chart surfaced for one of the dates a couple days ago so if you were savvy enough to look you would know what was up. So to the 99% of people who cant take a few minutes to search for relevant info, thats on them.
Stop blaming the consumers, it helps no one
Also it’s not like I don’t know what I’m doing. I’ve went into to a bunch of ticket buying experience the last few years with no idea what the price tiers are. They definitely don’t make it easy to find information.
8/12 – Portland, OR @ Revolution Hall 8/13 – Seattle, WA @ Day In Day Out 8/14 – Vancouver, BC @ Rickshaw Theatre 10/13 – Pittsburgh, PA @ Mr. Small’s Theatre # 10/14 – Cleveland, OH @ Grog Shop # 10/16 – Madison, WI @ High Noon Saloon # 10/18 – Milwaukee, WI @ Back Room @ Colectivo # 10/19 – St. Paul, MN @ Amsterdam Bar & Hall # 10/20 – Kansas City, MO @ RecordBar # 10/22 – Denver, CO @ Gothic # 10/23 – Salt Lake City, UT @ Urban Lounge # 10/29 – San Diego, CA @ Belly Up Tavern # 10/30 – Phoenix, AZ @ Crescent Ballroom # 11/02 – Austin, TX @ Scoot Inn # 11/03 – Fort Worth, TX @ Tulips FTX # 11/04 – Houston, TX @ White Oak Music Hall Upstairs # 11/07 – Nashville, TN @ Basement East # 11/08 – Asheville, NC @ Grey Eagle # 11/09 – Carrboro, NC @ Cat’s Cradle # 11/10 – Philadelphia, PA @ Union Transfer # 11/30 – Boston, MA @ The Sinclair # 12/01 – Montreal, QC @ Studio TD # 12/02 – Toronto, ON @ Phoenix #
# with Miss Grit
Anyone attending any of the Miss Grit opening shows, please go see her, or at the very least check her out. Do it. For me.
Been meaning to tell you she was wonderful. Could use a full band, 'cause it was just her up there with a backing track ala some of St. Vincent's Masseduction dates. Her vocals were lovely, and she basically just played stuff from Follow The Cyborg. Really cool projections for the whole shows especially for an opening act. I love Follow The Cyborg (thank you for the exposure on here), and I'm really excited to see what she does moving forward. Hope you get to catch her soon.
It also doesn’t matter that the price got leaked through a blurry Reddit post, the issue is still the artist/TM being deliberately evasive about sharing the ticket prices before onsale.
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