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Post by potentpotables on Apr 10, 2017 22:13:36 GMT -5
I wanna know what kind of hoi polloi were on this plane that there wasn't a single person who could take a hotel, a flight the next day, and 800 freaking dollars! My ass would be off the plane in a minute, searching the endless possibilities with my found airplane blood money.
I wanna know what kind of hoi polloi were on this plane that there wasn't a single person who could take a hotel, a flight the next day, and 800 freaking dollars! My ass would be off the plane in a minute, searching the endless possibilities with my found airplane blood money.
I've done it twice this year, every other time it has been offered I have been on my way to a fest.
But FTR they give you airline credit not cash. Which is almost better because then you aren't tempted to do responsible stuff with it
They escalated the situation and called for security to intervene. That is on them and the security. They allowed violence to happen and a man to get injured because they needed his bought and paid for seat, which is fraud. This shouldn't be allowed to happen, period.
It's not like he wasn't going to be compensated. I don't know what it is with United but with Southwest its 300$ plus the cost of your flight for voluntarily giving up your seat and 500 + cost for involuntary.
Good to know what the price of my well-being is, according to United.
I'm being snarky, but I think this is a very low cap to put on someone's plans. Just because the fine print says that you agree to these terms doesn't mean that it's not fundamentally shitty. There aren't exactly a multitude of options when it comes to long-distance travel. And it's insulting that they just offer airline credit. It's like "We're sorry for royally fucking you over, so to compensate you we're going to give you the opportunity to be royally fucked over again!" And I could be wrong, but I bet you first-class flyers don't get bumped off planes - just those deemed to be less valuable to the corporation. Fuck that sideways. I understand the "be an adult and deal with it" bit, but to me that very much has echoes reminiscent of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric that tells people to just do the best they can within a shitty system instead of altering the system the prevent people from being in that predicament in the first place.
It's not like he wasn't going to be compensated. I don't know what it is with United but with Southwest its 300$ plus the cost of your flight for voluntarily giving up your seat and 500 + cost for involuntary.
Good to know what the price of my well-being is, according to United.
I'm being snarky, but I think this is a very low cap to put on someone's plans. Just because the fine print says that you agree to these terms doesn't mean that it's not fundamentally shitty. There aren't exactly a multitude of options when it comes to long-distance travel. And it's insulting that they just offer airline credit. It's like "We're sorry for royally fucking you over, so to compensate you we're going to give you the opportunity to be royally fucked over again!" And I could be wrong, but I bet you first-class flyers don't get bumped off planes - just those deemed to be less valuable to the corporation. Fuck that sideways. I understand the "be an adult and deal with it" bit, but to me that very much has echoes reminiscent of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric that tells people to just do the best they can within a shitty system instead of altering the system the prevent people from being in that predicament in the first place.
Royally fuck over one person with putting them on the next flight, or royally fuck an entire plane of people when their flight gets cancelled. And when an entire flight gets cancelled it can some times take multiple days to find seats for them.
I just don't see a simple way to prevent that from happening other than intentionally leaving 4+ seats empty on every plane, which would result in an increase in ticket prices for every seat on every flight
Good to know what the price of my well-being is, according to United.
I'm being snarky, but I think this is a very low cap to put on someone's plans. Just because the fine print says that you agree to these terms doesn't mean that it's not fundamentally shitty. There aren't exactly a multitude of options when it comes to long-distance travel. And it's insulting that they just offer airline credit. It's like "We're sorry for royally fucking you over, so to compensate you we're going to give you the opportunity to be royally fucked over again!" And I could be wrong, but I bet you first-class flyers don't get bumped off planes - just those deemed to be less valuable to the corporation. Fuck that sideways. I understand the "be an adult and deal with it" bit, but to me that very much has echoes reminiscent of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric that tells people to just do the best they can within a shitty system instead of altering the system the prevent people from being in that predicament in the first place.
Royally fuck over one person with putting them on the next flight, or royally fuck an entire plane of people when their flight gets cancelled. And when an entire flight gets cancelled it can some times take multiple days to find seats for them.
I just don't see a simple way to prevent that from happening other than intentionally leaving 4+ seats empty on every plane, which would result in an increase in ticket prices for every seat on every flight
A three-class 747 holds 416 passengers. Assuming $500 per empty seat (a number I completely pulled out of my ass), that only averages to a $2.40 increase per passenger. I know that objectively I'm probably wrong because analysts much smarter than me have obviously determined that overbook flights is more profitable, but I feel like the increase in fares would be very slight.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
The real thing United should have done is offered the max allowable by law (according to the article, $1,350 - I'm assuming there were at least a few $350 tickets on the airplane). If they did that (in addition to the later flight and the hotel), there isn't much they can do otherwise. And I reiterate (and yes, I know it's not cash but it's vouchers instead), I can't believe that somebody, anybody, wouldn't take that offer.
I've flown United twice to Europe in the last few years (to Dublin and to Berlin) and have found the flights to be cheap and extremely comfortable. I won't avoid United and in fact will be searching for cheap fares as a reaction to this crisis.
The real thing United should have done is offered the max allowable by law (according to the article, $1,350 - I'm assuming there were at least a few $350 tickets on the airplane). If they did that (in addition to the later flight and the hotel), there isn't much they can do otherwise. And I reiterate (and yes, I know it's not cash but it's vouchers instead), I can't believe that somebody, anybody, wouldn't take that offer.
I've flown United twice to Europe in the last few years (to Dublin and to Berlin) and have found the flights to be cheap and extremely comfortable. I won't avoid United and in fact will be searching for cheap fares as a reaction to this crisis.
People didn't take "the offer" because the offer sucked and also, this was the last flight out on a Sunday evening, when folks have work to get to the next day. A lot of people can't square $800 in future, limited option flight credit with loss wages, the wrath of an employer or who knows. I couldn't say "yeah, I'll lose time and money and my sanity just so I can have a crappie flight credit in the future."
Also, this incident had nothing to do with overbooking but with a scheduling error on United's part trying to get their staff somewhere else. Everyone was already fully boarded and ready to go when this shit started, causing confusion and anger. People just wanted to get home on a Sunday night and much to their surprise, a last minute business decision on United's part to try and force people off a plane sitting and ready to depart backfired spectacularly in their face. They could have handled this situation in a myriad of more positive and less harmful ways to ease their passengers travel but instead just decided to go full gestapo.
I don't think I have ever flown United. But I would hope if I were ever in the middle of this mess I would stand up and tell them this is a PR nightmare, look at all the cell phones out. Through some sweet cash and a stocked minibar at the hotel my way and I will make it all go away.
I don't think I have ever flown United. But I would hope if I were ever in the middle of this mess I would stand up and tell them this is a PR nightmare, look at all the cell phones out. Through some sweet cash and a stocked minibar at the hotel my way and I will make it all go away.
I don't think I have ever flown United. But I would hope if I were ever in the middle of this mess I would stand up and tell them this is a PR nightmare, look at all the cell phones out. Through some sweet cash and a stocked minibar at the hotel my way and I will make it all go away.
sucky ref lol awesome
Well, PR nightmare would be the only thing that would register with them. Look at the appalling way they treated him. As if he weren't even a human being.
Well, PR nightmare would be the only thing that would register with them. Look at the appalling way they treated him. As if he weren't even a human being.
edit-you were the first person to catch that.
i like it, i've been kind of following along. still doesn't seem as bad as mafia
Well, PR nightmare would be the only thing that would register with them. Look at the appalling way they treated him. As if he weren't even a human being.
edit-you were the first person to catch that.
i like it, i've been kind of following along. still doesn't seem as bad as mafia
You do not need to dis mafia... You need to play mafia.
I've flown United once recently and it was fine (from Germany to MN)
But for domestic unless its significantly more expensive (very rare) I always fly Southwest. Normally they're cheaper and I've pretty much only had good experiences, even when delays and cancellations came up.
Semi-related, possibly my biggest flying pet-peeve is people that yell at gate agents or ticket agents when there is a delay or cancellation.
I've flown United once recently and it was fine (from Germany to MN)
But for domestic unless its significantly more expensive (very rare) I always fly Southwest. Normally they're cheaper and I've pretty much only had good experiences, even when delays and cancellations came up.
Semi-related, possibly my biggest flying pet-peeve is people that yell at gate agents or ticket agents when there is a delay or cancellation.
The last time I flew, I saw a woman pitch a fit because her seat assignment was not with her husband. Apparently, she had a fear of flying, and I can sympathize, but she was still a grown woman crying in an airport because of her seat assignment. And she was giving him shit for it like it was his fault for some reason.
I've flown United once recently and it was fine (from Germany to MN)
But for domestic unless its significantly more expensive (very rare) I always fly Southwest. Normally they're cheaper and I've pretty much only had good experiences, even when delays and cancellations came up.
Semi-related, possibly my biggest flying pet-peeve is people that yell at gate agents or ticket agents when there is a delay or cancellation.
The last time I flew, I saw a woman pitch a fit because her seat assignment was not with her husband. Apparently, she had a fear of flying, and I can sympathize, but she was still a grown woman crying in an airport because of her seat assignment. And she was giving him shit for it like it was his fault for some reason.
Stuff like this is just silly, if there is anything they can do there is a good chance they will do it, but not if you treat them like shit.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
A couple was questioned, but not arrested, after they were spotted "rolling around" on the side of a Birmingham area interstate.
A motorist called 911 about 11 a.m. Sunday to alert the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office to the unusual sight. When the deputies got on the scene, they said they found the couple "on a grassy knoll" on the side of Interstate 22 in Graysville, said Chief Deputy Randy Christian.
The couple explained to deputies that they were "just cooking some noodles" in preparation for their long walking journey to Memphis. They were headed to Tennessee to see a Grateful Dead tribute band, Christian said.
The deputies, he said, explained why they were there, and both acknowledged that they understood. The couple refused any assistance with their journey to Memphis.
"First of all, we are glad they were OK but it's a little disturbing they are considering naming a child 'Noodles,''' Christian said. "Apparently the spirit of the flower children from the 60's lives on."
I'm flying Southwest for the first time to Coachella next week. For domestic travel I hold all airlines against Jet Blue, so I'm hoping it compares.
I almost always fly on Southwest, except for when I used (then) US Airways heading to/from Bonnaroo in 2012. I've never had any major issues with them.
Southwest and US Airways (now American) happen to be the two busiest carriers in PVD though, and nobody in mine or H's families are willing to drive to Logan for us.
1. The gf and I are planning on going to Outside Lands this year. It's the first trip to the west coast for the both of us.
My parents went on a trip around the West Coast back in the summer of 2004. Started out at Disneyland, then Los Angeles, then San Francisco, then up the Pacific Coast Highway to Oregon where we have family, then to Lake Tahoe. My brother (then 16) went along, but I was left home. My parents thought it was more important for me to stay at my $10/hr summer job, refused to let me go with them, and ate the $500 plane fare they originally booked for me.
2. Four years ago, the gf and I went to San Antonio/Austin for a week vacation - my parents refused to drive us to the Hartford airport (1 hr 15 min away).
Five months ago, my brother and his wife went to Houston/Galveston for a week vacation - my parents drove them to/from the Boston airport (1 hr 15 min away).
As previously mentioned, they will not take my gf or I to/from Boston.
A couple was questioned, but not arrested, after they were spotted "rolling around" on the side of a Birmingham area interstate.
A motorist called 911 about 11 a.m. Sunday to alert the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office to the unusual sight. When the deputies got on the scene, they said they found the couple "on a grassy knoll" on the side of Interstate 22 in Graysville, said Chief Deputy Randy Christian.
The couple explained to deputies that they were "just cooking some noodles" in preparation for their long walking journey to Memphis. They were headed to Tennessee to see a Grateful Dead tribute band, Christian said.
The deputies, he said, explained why they were there, and both acknowledged that they understood. The couple refused any assistance with their journey to Memphis.
"First of all, we are glad they were OK but it's a little disturbing they are considering naming a child 'Noodles,''' Christian said. "Apparently the spirit of the flower children from the 60's lives on."