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The Wire > Game of Thrones > Better Call Saul easily.
that's my ranking too. although if you include half hours in the ranking, Community is IMO the greatest accomplishment in television history. i put it above The Wire. heresy i know, but i'm mainly a comedy guy.
Community is good but that's a wild take. That show fell off HARD after the first few seasons. I heard it picked back up eventually but when I've tried rewatching I just couldn't shake how bored with it I got.
The Office > Parks and Rec > 30 Rock > Community
I'm okay with people ranking P&R higher but in the modern era, that and the Office are top-tier. Besides being an Office fanboy, I think it should get the nod regardless simply because of its obvious influence on P&R. The Office basically ushered in the era of "Characters who are just a tad bit too ridiculous most of the time to actually exist". Slightly caricaturish (caricaturesque?) characters. If you look at the previous generation of comedies (Friends, Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc), all the characters were fairly realistic and presented as people you could conceivably encounter in real life. Enter Michael Scott, Dwight, etc. Aspects of realistic personalities got turned up to 10 for comedic effect, and we've seen that ripple through shows like P&R, Brooklyn 99, and others.
that's my ranking too. although if you include half hours in the ranking, Community is IMO the greatest accomplishment in television history. i put it above The Wire. heresy i know, but i'm mainly a comedy guy.
Community is good but that's a wild take. That show fell off HARD after the first few seasons. I heard it picked back up eventually but when I've tried rewatching I just couldn't shake how bored with it I got.
The Office > Parks and Rec > 30 Rock > Community
I'm okay with people ranking P&R higher but in the modern era, that and the Office are top-tier. Besides being an Office fanboy, I think it should get the nod regardless simply because of its obvious influence on P&R. The Office basically ushered in the era of "Characters who are just a tad bit too ridiculous most of the time to actually exist". Slightly caricaturish (caricaturesque?) characters. If you look at the previous generation of comedies (Friends, Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc), all the characters were fairly realistic and presented as people you could conceivably encounter in real life. Enter Michael Scott, Dwight, etc. Aspects of realistic personalities got turned up to 10 for comedic effect, and we've seen that ripple through shows like P&R, Brooklyn 99, and others.
um what? the office is groundbreaking because of the way it was filmed, but they didn't event whacky characters.
Community is good but that's a wild take. That show fell off HARD after the first few seasons. I heard it picked back up eventually but when I've tried rewatching I just couldn't shake how bored with it I got.
The Office > Parks and Rec > 30 Rock > Community
I'm okay with people ranking P&R higher but in the modern era, that and the Office are top-tier. Besides being an Office fanboy, I think it should get the nod regardless simply because of its obvious influence on P&R. The Office basically ushered in the era of "Characters who are just a tad bit too ridiculous most of the time to actually exist". Slightly caricaturish (caricaturesque?) characters. If you look at the previous generation of comedies (Friends, Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc), all the characters were fairly realistic and presented as people you could conceivably encounter in real life. Enter Michael Scott, Dwight, etc. Aspects of realistic personalities got turned up to 10 for comedic effect, and we've seen that ripple through shows like P&R, Brooklyn 99, and others.
um what? the office is groundbreaking because of the way it was filmed, but they didn't event whacky characters.
I didn't say they invented it, I said they ushered in a different era. Do you really not see the difference between the characters of 90s comedies and those of the 2000s?
What is Endgame and why is everyone freaking out. I haven’t been to the movies in almost a decade.
The finale of the first part of the marvel cinematic universe that 10 years and like 20 movies have been leading up to.
Since Katy knows about GoT, it's very much like where we are at in GoT where every character has been built up to some extent, so every death is going to matter and hurt.
I think that Kramer is one of the most unrealistic characters in TV history. I don't think that Michael is all that different from someone like Joey, just older. I think Pam, Jim, Stan, Phyllis, Kevin, Oscar, Angela, are all more grounded in reality than most of the friends cast. The cast of Raymond is way over exaggerated stereotypes, especially his family. idk, I love the office, but I don't really think of it as that.
Mad Men had the most satisfying series finale of any show in the last 20 years.
i legit told someone today that i thought it was dumb
Haha at least we agree on some things.
Mad Men is one of those shows where I think you either get it or you don't. I 100% don't. I tried really hard, multiple times. I once watched three and a half seasons of the shit just to see when it was gonna "get good". It didn't. It was slow, I didn't care about most of the people, bleh. Eventually I just realized that I wasn't enjoying any of it and didn't know why I was spending my time on it. Haven't looked back.
I guess mad men was good because everytime the wife and I finished an episode, we were like "what is the point of this show?" "I dunno. wanna watch the next one?" "yea"
i legit told someone today that i thought it was dumb
Haha at least we agree on some things.
Mad Men is one of those shows where I think you either get it or you don't. I 100% don't. I tried really hard, multiple times. I once watched three and a half seasons of the shit just to see when it was gonna "get good". It didn't. It was slow, I didn't care about most of the people, bleh. Eventually I just realized that I wasn't enjoying any of it and didn't know why I was spending my time on it. Haven't looked back.
lol nope. amazing show. top notch for me. ending just fell flat for me, idk what I really wanted, but I just remember kind of being meh on it. i want to rewatch again.
Mad Men is one of those shows where I think you either get it or you don't. I 100% don't. I tried really hard, multiple times. I once watched three and a half seasons of the shit just to see when it was gonna "get good". It didn't. It was slow, I didn't care about most of the people, bleh. Eventually I just realized that I wasn't enjoying any of it and didn't know why I was spending my time on it. Haven't looked back.
lol nope. amazing show. top notch for me. ending just fell flat for me, idk what I really wanted, but I just remember kind of being meh on it. i want to rewatch again.
that's my ranking too. although if you include half hours in the ranking, Community is IMO the greatest accomplishment in television history. i put it above The Wire. heresy i know, but i'm mainly a comedy guy.
Community is good but that's a wild take. That show fell off HARD after the first few seasons. I heard it picked back up eventually but when I've tried rewatching I just couldn't shake how bored with it I got.
Season 4 of Community was bad. This was the season they fired Dan Harmon. They also lost the Russo Brothers (who left to direct Winter Soldier), and some writers who had been with the show since the beginning. Harmon was rehired for season 5, and the Russo brothers and the writers who left returned as well, and the shows greatness resumed. Even as crucial characters left in season 5, most notably Donald Glover, they were able to introduce new characters, or push existing ensemble members into more prominent positions with great success. When I rewatch the show I skip season 4.
But even taking a hit with the "gas leak" season it's still the most satisfying show I watch. I love the characters, I love their progression, I love the way they play with sitcom tropes, I love the Greendale world they created. I love Abed.
lol nope. amazing show. top notch for me. ending just fell flat for me, idk what I really wanted, but I just remember kind of being meh on it. i want to rewatch again.
Post by Cookin' Mama on Apr 23, 2019 15:31:10 GMT -5
Since we're giving bad tv series takes: I've tried to start The Wire 3 times and haven't made it through the first season 3 times. Given what I've seen, it's way overrated.
Community is good but that's a wild take. That show fell off HARD after the first few seasons. I heard it picked back up eventually but when I've tried rewatching I just couldn't shake how bored with it I got.
Season 4 of Community was bad. This was the season they fired Dan Harmon. They also lost the Russo Brothers (who left to direct Winter Soldier), and some writers who had been with the show since the beginning. Harmon was rehired for season 5, and the Russo brothers and the writers who left returned as well, and the shows greatness resumed. Even as crucial characters left in season 5, most notably Donald Glover, they were able to introduce new characters, or push existing ensemble members into more prominent positions with great success. When I rewatch the show I skip season 4.
But even taking a hit with the "gas leak" season it's still the most satisfying show I watch. I love the characters, I love their progression, I love the way they play with sitcom tropes, I love the Greendale world they created. I love Abed.
Since we're giving bad tv series takes: I've tried to start The Wire 3 times and haven't made it through the first season 3 times. Given what I've seen, it's way overrated.
Since we're giving bad tv series takes: I've tried to start The Wire 3 times and haven't made it through the first season 3 times. Given what I've seen, it's way overrated.
Season 4 of Community was bad. This was the season they fired Dan Harmon. They also lost the Russo Brothers (who left to direct Winter Soldier), and some writers who had been with the show since the beginning. Harmon was rehired for season 5, and the Russo brothers and the writers who left returned as well, and the shows greatness resumed. Even as crucial characters left in season 5, most notably Donald Glover, they were able to introduce new characters, or push existing ensemble members into more prominent positions with great success. When I rewatch the show I skip season 4.
But even taking a hit with the "gas leak" season it's still the most satisfying show I watch. I love the characters, I love their progression, I love the way they play with sitcom tropes, I love the Greendale world they created. I love Abed.
We have to assume we are talking about post 2000 shows, because there was a huge comedy lull only filled by cartoons (which we all have obviously decided not to include to this list or we would be in a brawl). BoJack Horseman is in my top 5 and floats back and forth because late 80's to 90's related sitcoms (up to the somehow still living 'Big Bang Theory') deserve a different chart. We have different measures for them imo. Also
Living Single... In a 90's kinda world... I'm glad I got my gurl