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I've been drinking since 1 today. I love not having a "real job"
I also used to throw parties at my place almost every weekend from sophomore year of HS through the rest of HS because my dad was never around. and I had a fake in college that was one of my older sorority sisters' IDs. worked most places, but the other half of places knew who she was, so I got kicked out often...
I was also in this group in college called strollers - we were like an improve/sketch comedy group on campus and were known for being big fucking alcoholics and could drink anyone under the table. when I was 20 I was going to bars with them all the time and never got IDed.
I've been drinking since 1 today. I love not having a "real job"
I also used to throw parties at my place almost every weekend from sophomore year of HS through the rest of HS because my dad was never around. and I had a fake in college that was one of my older sorority sisters' IDs. worked most places, but the other half of places knew who she was, so I got kicked out often...
I was also in this group in college called strollers - we were like an improve/sketch comedy group on campus and were known for being big fucking alcoholics and could drink anyone under the table. when I was 20 I was going to bars with them all the time and never got IDed.
The one and only fight I've ever been in was with some SAE guy last year. I was drunkenly walking down frat row and he made fun of me for wearing cargo shorts.
The one and only fight I've ever been in was with some SAE guy last year. I was drunkenly walking down frat row and he made fun of me for wearing cargo shorts.
I would never do that to a stranger or even a friend that was just hanging but if our pledges ever came around our house or we saw them on campus with cargo shorts, we would cut the shorts off right above the cargo pockets. Once you were a brother, you could do whatever, but if a fucking pledge got caught in cargo shorts he was fucked, it was hilarious. Having pledges is by far the best part of being in a frat to me because it's great to fuck with them and still help/watch them grow from scared highschool students into real, responsible college kids.
Oh hey, I know this is the wrong thread, but talking about how awesome Sunday got me thinking about the weekend and I meant to say that the girl that I've had a crush on for a while and have had an awkward, steady flirt thing going on with came into my room Friday night and asked if she could sleep with me. So, I just wanted to say that because it contributed to this being my favorite weekend since a bonnaroo 2013
The one and only fight I've ever been in was with some SAE guy last year. I was drunkenly walking down frat row and he made fun of me for wearing cargo shorts.
I would never do that to a stranger or even a friend that was just hanging but if our pledges ever came around our house or we saw them on campus with cargo shorts, we would cut the shorts off right above the cargo pockets. Once you were a brother, you could do whatever, but if a fucking pledge got caught in cargo shorts he was fucked, it was hilarious. Having pledges is by far the best part of being in a frat to me because it's great to fuck with them and still help/watch them grow from scared highschool students into real, responsible college kids.
My favorite was getting to slap any pledge across the face who cursed in front of a female.
Oh hey, I know this is the wrong thread, but talking about how awesome Sunday got me thinking about the weekend and I meant to say that the girl that I've had a crush on for a while and have had an awkward, steady flirt thing going on with came into my room Friday night and asked if she could sleep with me. So, I just wanted to say that because it contributed to this being my favorite weekend since a bonnaroo 2013
Damn she just showed on up at your door and said "let's bang?" Doesn't get much better than that.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
The one and only fight I've ever been in was with some SAE guy last year. I was drunkenly walking down frat row and he made fun of me for wearing cargo shorts.
I would never do that to a stranger or even a friend that was just hanging but if our pledges ever came around our house or we saw them on campus with cargo shorts, we would cut the shorts off right above the cargo pockets. Once you were a brother, you could do whatever, but if a fucking pledge got caught in cargo shorts he was fucked, it was hilarious. Having pledges is by far the best part of being in a frat to me because it's great to fuck with them and still help/watch them grow from scared highschool students into real, responsible college kids.
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
Oh hey, I know this is the wrong thread, but talking about how awesome Sunday got me thinking about the weekend and I meant to say that the girl that I've had a crush on for a while and have had an awkward, steady flirt thing going on with came into my room Friday night and asked if she could sleep with me. So, I just wanted to say that because it contributed to this being my favorite weekend since a bonnaroo 2013
Damn she just showed on up at your door and said "let's bang?" Doesn't get much better than that.
Yeah, I was fucking confused because we had talked before and I told I was quite fond of her and said she was too but things were complicated so I just told her to do her thing and I'd do mine and if things went in a direction where we could get together, that'd be dope. Then, I was laying there, listening to "Building Something Out of Nothing" and three songs in the bedroom door opened and she asked "Can I sleep with you" so I said of course and it went from there. Truly unbeatable
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
Yeah I understand that part, but it really is about the cargo shorts at UF at least. That phrase "cargo embargo" gets thrown around way too much. It's so lame
Damn she just showed on up at your door and said "let's bang?" Doesn't get much better than that.
Yeah, I was fucking confused because we had talked before and I told I was quite fond of her and said she was too but things were complicated so I just told her to do her thing and I'd do mine and if things went in a direction where we could get together, that'd be dope. Then, I was laying there, listening to "Building Something Out of Nothing" and three songs in the bedroom door opened and she asked "Can I sleep with you" so I said of course and it went from there. Truly unbeatable
That's amazing - congrats. Andddddd how was the night?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
I understand the psychological basis for that thinking, but it just really illustrates the fact that I could never be in the military or a frat. That shit just rubs me the wrong way.
I HATE arbitrary rules like that, and just the whole rigidity of it.
I'd rather let people grow into themselves in their own time/way. I'd prefer to have and encourage individual thought/expression.
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
I agree with the military comparison. Break you down to build you up with a nice helping of groupthink, which is exactly how horrible things like the OU thing happen without anyone doing anything to stop it.
Yeah, I was fucking confused because we had talked before and I told I was quite fond of her and said she was too but things were complicated so I just told her to do her thing and I'd do mine and if things went in a direction where we could get together, that'd be dope. Then, I was laying there, listening to "Building Something Out of Nothing" and three songs in the bedroom door opened and she asked "Can I sleep with you" so I said of course and it went from there. Truly unbeatable
That's amazing - congrats. Andddddd how was the night?
Fucking GREAT! Seriously, we actually share the same birthday, so we were using the birthday to celebrate. That will go down as one of my favorite "nights" ever, possibly THE favorite due to the manner and conditions under which it happened.
Stuff like that is why greek life isn't for me. Why anyone would belittle someone over cargo shorts is beyond me
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
When that happens on a one-on-one basis it is called psychological abuse - yet within the confines of an organisation, it's just called tradition and bonding? I have a better name for it... bullshit.
That's not a dig against those who have been in frats, but I have a strong distaste for the kind of culture they breed. I dislike the drinking culture enough as it is, but things like that are what really aggravate me.
L That's amazing - congrats. Andddddd how was the night?
Fucking GREAT! Seriously, we actually share the same birthday, so we were using the birthday to celebrate. That will go down as one of my favorite "nights" ever, possibly THE favorite due to the manner and conditions under which it happened.
Yo, please make note that shortly after I gave you your now appropriate custom title, you got laid.
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity. N
Yeah I understand that part, but it really is about the cargo shorts at UF at least. That phrase "cargo embargo" gets thrown around way too much. It's so lame
Haha, I went to UF and I'm in Delt, I never heard "cargo embargo" that would annoy the shit out of me too. And to people discussing the frat's methods, I'm simply explaining the reasoning on why they do it, not necessarily condoning the actions. There are certainly flaws with Frats' systems but they do what they are meant to damn well
Fucking GREAT! Seriously, we actually share the same birthday, so we were using the birthday to celebrate. That will go down as one of my favorite "nights" ever, possibly THE favorite due to the manner and conditions under which it happened.
Yo, please make note that shortly after I gave you your now appropriate custom title, you got laid.
You're welcome.
Haha, thank you Druid somebody made that remark, I'll note it in my sig actually because you ended the longest dry spell I've encountered since I lost my virginity 8 years ago.
L That's amazing - congrats. Andddddd how was the night?
Fucking GREAT! Seriously, we actually share the same birthday, so we were using the birthday to celebrate. That will go down as one of my favorite "nights" ever, possibly THE favorite due to the manner and conditions under which it happened.
Yay, love hearing that! So you guys are a ~thing~ now?
Also uhhhh you lost your virginity 8 years ago....at age 12?! Or 13?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Fucking GREAT! Seriously, we actually share the same birthday, so we were using the birthday to celebrate. That will go down as one of my favorite "nights" ever, possibly THE favorite due to the manner and conditions under which it happened.
Yay, love hearing that! So you guys are a ~thing~ now?
Also uhhhh you lost your virginity 8 years ago....at age 12?! Or 13?
Nah, we aren't a thing, which is a bummer but I really like her and I'm in no rush to do anything else, so I'm just hanging out and seeing where it goes. I sadly heard rumor that she may be moving out west in the summer, which will be nice to go visit her but wrecks any long term chances at the moment unless there's a big move for one of us in the future. And yeah I lost it like 8 years ago, I was in 8th grade (13 years old.) I always feel like an inner city kid who grew up on the streets when I tell people that, haha. It's not my proudest achievement but it definitely had a lot to do with me maturing (in good ways) long before most kids my age.
I've been drinking since 1 today. I love not having a "real job"
I also used to throw parties at my place almost every weekend from sophomore year of HS through the rest of HS because my dad was never around. and I had a fake in college that was one of my older sorority sisters' IDs. worked most places, but the other half of places knew who she was, so I got kicked out often...
I was also in this group in college called strollers - we were like an improve/sketch comedy group on campus and were known for being big fucking alcoholics and could drink anyone under the table. when I was 20 I was going to bars with them all the time and never got IDed.
I haven't grown out of my party stage yet.
It's stories like this that make me realize why we get along so well......
Also, I'm that bitch who goes to a seafood buffet and gets mashed potatoes, macaroni, steak and doesn't touch the king crab legs..... So proud of myself.
Hey now. I promise we're not all bad eggs. As a Greek myself, I'm embarrassed by this kind of behavior. It's morally reprehensible and should always be swiftly denounced and met with just punishment (not to mention prevented in the first place). However, it's important to remember that these actions are typically committed by a minority of people in the Greek system. As a whole, Greeks tend to be more actively involved in campus organizations, volunteer more regularly, donate more money to their universities, and remain actively engaged as alumni than many other students. This is but one example of many instances of problematic behavior in the history of Greek organizations, and frustrates me that crap like this still happens to this day. But please realize that many of us are not terrible people and do not condone this kind of behavior.
Oh, I understand. I was active on campus with various student leadership organizations so I worked with quite a few great people that were involved in Greek organizations. Maybe it was just my campus, though, but it was quite the opposite - you'd find a few great people and the majority were obnoxious bad eggs. The good thing is that most of these great people I worked with tended to be leaders of whatever frat/sorority they were with, so maybe they were helping influence better behavior. It just seemed like every week there were instances of unacceptable behavior. I get the volunteer aspect and wanting to be involved and all that - I suppose I just don't understand why you'd need to pay money to do any of it. To each their own, I suppose. Maybe the campus I was on just had a bad track record or something.
Pretty much agree with all this. I only know two universities well as far greek life is concerned (Radford and Virginia Tech) and I have met a few outstanding people that were involved with it through one organization or another....seems like the majority though just make you roll your eyes. Maybe it's just where I go to school, but the two largest fraternities on campus seem to be the worse. Everybody I have dealt with that belonged to a smaller organization are enjoyable to be around and don't give off that obvious greek life vibe.
It isn't that we are doing it because you wore cargo shorts, we do it because we tell them at the beginning, before they ever pledge a single day, if you wear cargo shorts while you're a pledge and we see you, we will cut your shorts off. The pledging process is a really light version of what the military does to recruits, the whole "break you down to build you up" thing. We break you down (within reason) and you turn to your pledge brothers and brothers of the fraternity for support because they can relate to you and the situation you're in so it builds a strong bond between members of the fraternity. Pledges are warned of consequences for actions in the beginning, they are not just randomly fucked with, there's a purpose behind everything they go through. I do not support true, over the top hazing, we just give the pledges a hard time, the worst things they go through are things that have symbolic meaning and are tradition within our fraternity.
When that happens on a one-on-one basis it is called psychological abuse - yet within the confines of an organisation, it's just called tradition and bonding? I have a better name for it... bullshit.
That's not a dig against those who have been in frats, but I have a strong distaste for the kind of culture they breed. I dislike the drinking culture enough as it is, but things like that are what really aggravate me.
I generally agree with you on that. Similar to other "selective" societies and organizations, fraternities understandably have certain unique rituals and traditions that are passed down throughout the years. While some practices are properly used to ensure that both the current members and the prospective members honor the history and core values of the organization, others are arbitrary traditions that have no meaningful place in a new member education program. I do think that many organizations (not only fraternities, but also sports teams) fall into a habit of continuing a tradition simply because the previous generations did so before them. As a member, it's easy to succumb to the groupthink mentality, especially if the traditions don't have malicious intent. Your perspective tends to evolve after you graduate and find yourself on the outside looking in, but at that point it's often too late to effect any meaningful change. Therefore, I think it's important for the current members of any such organization to take a step back and ask themselves if these "traditions" are truly necessary, or if they can be modified or replaced with different practices that are much more effective in helping the organization achieve its goals. I've never been a big proponent of the "shared sacrifice" approach that some fraternities employ when trying to unite their pledges. I just believe that there exist much better alternative methods to instill a sense of unity/fellowship/brotherhood.
I have to admit that my pledging experience was probably different from many others' experiences. Any form of hazing was highly discouraged (although initiation walked a fine line), and we made it pretty clear that respect was a two-way street and the pledges were not to be treated as inferior beings (even though they were required to complete certain tasks in order to be eligible for membership). As pledges, we were required to wear our pledge pins at all times, but we wore them as a symbols of pride in the organization we were joining. We also made it VERY clear that no one would ever be pressured into drinking against his/her will. I'm not exactly sure what percentage of fraternities force their pledges or members to drink, but that is one of the more objectionable practices that still exist today. Not to mention that forced drinking can lead to a potentially dangerous situation if people get carried away.
Post by NothingButFlowers on Mar 9, 2015 22:12:34 GMT -5
I was talking to my mom today. Since 1980, the same woman has cut her hair. She hasn't had a single haircut from another person. One time, another lady from the shop washed it for her, but apart from that, no one else has done anything to it. That's dedication.
Incidentally, while I have had a handful of haircuts from other people (only five that I can think of, two of which were disasters), the same woman has also cut my hair in that time, and I haven't even lived in this city for the last eight and a half years.