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If I was a woman I couldn't fathom voting for a party that wants to control my uterus and keep me making less than my male counterparts, but hey, that's just me.
I just voted 2 hours ago. I voiced my opinion about the binders at the polls.
What does your bro hate about Obama Flanzo? Just curious.
He is vehemently against gov't aid for people that aren't trying to find work themselves, which in his mind is anyone on gov't aid for over 6 months that doesn't have a physical reason for doing so. He believes Obama enables these people.
And he believes that obesity should not be a disability. I can't say I disagree with him on this. I am not skinny (MUSCLES! YEAH!), and I work with dozens of overweight people who are great at their jobs. I think that the gov't as a whole (not Obama) enabled people to seek out an excuse to receive aid in some cases, but my brother thinks of it on an absolute level.
Post by kikosanchez on Oct 17, 2012 23:50:09 GMT -5
I do find it odd that just weeks away from the election that neither candidate seems to have a specific plan of what they would do the next 4 years. Seems they are too busy cat fighting to offer specifics. Not all that surprised really, since Romney seems to want to hide whatever he would (not) do and Obama and his mates haven't even offered a simple budget in years. Meanwhile, I hear from Obama fans that only rich people want Romney want to win, while anti-Obama people say he "has secret plans and will destroy the country". Sounds like another productive election to be sure.... :yawn:
I'm having a lot of fun this morning getting caught up on the current state of the Intrade/IEM/Betfair markets. I didn't realize the spreads were running this wide, or I'd probably have been locking in some of the arbitrage that's available. Flanz, have you ever played these?
And it's interesting how the apparent manipulation from '08 is creeping back in...speculation is that somebody is propping Romney up.
I'm having a lot of fun this morning getting caught up on the current state of the Intrade/IEM/Betfair markets. I didn't realize the spreads were running this wide, or I'd probably have been locking in some of the arbitrage that's available. Flanz, have you ever played these?
And it's interesting how the apparent manipulation from '08 is creeping back in...speculation is that somebody is propping Romney up.
I bet Obama across the board in '08 and made like $400 bucks. I stopped gambling, though (it's a filthy little b*tch, eh?), but do lay the occasional wager. When spreads are that far apart, it's basically Vegas saying "we have no idea what the f*ck is going to happen."
Speculation? Isn't it basically accepted that the Koch brothers are propping Romney up? Whatever, he's obviously just a megaphone for someone else who doesn't want to be seen, I assumed we all knew that already.
Could very well be Koch money...who the hell knows.
Just to clarify what I'm talking about...there's speculation that somebody in the Romney campaign is actually stepping into Intrade and buying up his "to win" contract (and maybe shorting Obama's, for all we know) in an attempt to manipulate public opinion -- I guess Intrade's in play a lot more in this election as a barometer.
But I'm talking about actually arbing the spreads between the exchanges so that there's no gambling involved...there's like a 3.6% "middle" right now between Betfair and Intrade, for instance, so if you bought the lower contract on Intrade and sold the higher one on Betfair, you'd be locking in (.036*your size)-whatever fees were associated with the transactions. Those spreads have been 10% or wider, and they're getting a lot of attention. It may very well be the Romney-biased manipulation I was talking about that's making this free money possible--they're basically handing money to Intrade players as yet another advertising ploy.
I'm not doing this myself right now, nor am I advocating it...but it's fascinating to watch, and if the spreads blow out again I may very well jump in.
Disclaimer: Betfair isn't open to people in the US, but there are other exchanges. And sorry, Flanz, I'm guessing you know this stuff...just thinking out loud, here.
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Which: by the way, on the Koch brothers...I interviewed with Koch Industries in Houston for a job on one of their energy commodities desks, and I have to say: that office was hands-down the most repressive one I've ever entered. They kept me in a windowless room the size of a prison cell for eight hours without lunch or even any water while one humorless SOB after another came in for a string of interviews, in which I was essentially asked over and over to justify my existence as if I had no track record in the industry whatsoever. And then during the office tour I was struck by how homogenized everything was...same clothing, same lack of personal effects on desks, same everything. Hardly any amenities, either. To boot, the compensation package was sub-par.
I came away with the creeps about the Koch brothers, and I've had them ever since.
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Which: by the way, on the Koch brothers...I interviewed with Koch Industries in Houston for a job on one of their energy commodities desks, and I have to say: that office was hands-down the most repressive one I've ever entered. They kept me in a windowless room the size of a prison cell for eight hours without lunch or even any water while one humorless SOB after another came in for a string of interviews, in which I was essentially asked over and over to justify my existence as if I had no track record in the industry whatsoever. And then during the office tour I was struck by how homogenized everything was...same clothing, same lack of personal effects on desks, same everything. Hardly any amenities, either. To boot, the compensation package was sub-par.
I came away with the creeps about the Koch brothers, and I've had them ever since.
Considering your experience and the story/book coming out from an employee out of Goldman's, it's probably a good thing you didn't end up there. Man, the field is just a minefield. You have to cross your fingers to end up in a good position that doesn't leave you in morally ambiguous situations.
Post by kikosanchez on Oct 22, 2012 21:49:34 GMT -5
I love how far right-wing talking heads speak of Obama as if everyone that supports him views him as a messianic figure and yet Romney and much of the right, as he said tonight, believes America is the "hope of the world". So who is really invoking the messianic narrative?
I'm really torn between Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson.
Same.
Except Stein is only a write in status in CT and Anderson has a ballot line. I know Stein is on the ballot in MA and RI, and would vote for her in a split second if I was over there.
Considering your experience and the story/book coming out from an employee out of Goldman's, it's probably a good thing you didn't end up there. Man, the field is just a minefield. You have to cross your fingers to end up in a good position that doesn't leave you in morally ambiguous situations.
I'd just like to point out that not all financial institutions and executive positions leave you stuck in morally ambiguous situations. Most of them leave you in normal business situations if you don't go seeking shady deals to turn a quick profit.
Considering your experience and the story/book coming out from an employee out of Goldman's, it's probably a good thing you didn't end up there. Man, the field is just a minefield. You have to cross your fingers to end up in a good position that doesn't leave you in morally ambiguous situations.
I'd just like to point out that not all financial institutions and executive positions leave you stuck in morally ambiguous situations. Most of them leave you in normal business situations if you don't go seeking shady deals to turn a quick profit.
I completely agree and I probably went too far with my last statement. I was looking more toward WS/trading/fin advisors than everyday analysts, corp finance, etc.
Tonight there's a debate with Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, and Rocky Anderson. Who else is gonna watch?
No one.
Actually, I'm going to watch. If no one watches, we'll keep getting two jackasses going against each other that are the same candidate 92% of the time. I know I'm tilting at windmills or farting in the wind (pick your metaphor), but the fact that the two major party candidates won't answer a single question and that it takes 15% of support in national polls before any other candidate can debate on the big stage bothers me. Besides, I'm likely going to vote for one of the folks debating tonight, may as well see what they have to say. I just wish Larry King wasn't the moderator.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Oct 23, 2012 16:25:02 GMT -5
Watching the debate won't help change the "two jackass" system. I'm not really sure what can change that. It seems like they enjoy being the only two choices and would do anything to stop a third party.
Watching the debate won't help change the "two jackass" system. I'm not really sure what can change that. It seems like they enjoy being the only two choices and would do anything to stop a third party.
I didn't mean to say that watching this will, in and of itself, change anything. Baby steps.
Watching the debate won't help change the "two jackass" system. I'm not really sure what can change that. It seems like they enjoy being the only two choices and would do anything to stop a third party.
I didn't mean to say that watching this will, in and of itself, change anything. Baby steps.
Watching it could actually educate some people on so much.... And really, I feel like baby steps are really not enough anymore.....
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Watching the debate won't help change the "two jackass" system. I'm not really sure what can change that. It seems like they enjoy being the only two choices and would do anything to stop a third party.
People watch -> viewing numbers are good -> bring in more advertisers next time -> more exposure -> more viewers -> more advertising money -> maybe a real channel wants a piece of it. You never know
The highest exposure it was getting was Cspan, Al Jazeera English, and RT English.
Needs improvement.
I dvr'ed it last night, will watch asap. I strongly support third parties, but realize that it'll take a lot of time and effort to build one up to get anywhere. The system as is protects Democrats and Republicans. I'm hoping in 2012 that Stein and Johnson have respectable numbers: 1-3% or so. And then it builds from that for the future.
If you live in a swing state, hold your nose and vote Obama. (Sorry Angie). Everyone else, go third party of your choosing.
If I lived in a state that I was sure would go for Obama I'd investigate third party candidates in much more detail but being in a big old swing state my vote has to go where it makes a difference.