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There is a big difference in a 30 year old person having a beer and a smoke at a show and a 22 year old person doing the same thing.
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Since when does asshole have an age qualification??
I just saw that and am curious myself. There are two types of people at shows assholes and non assholes. Neither one seems to be age dependent. I have dealt with 50 year old ones, and 19 year old ones, really it is just part of the experience.
i find brahs hilarious for their total ignorance of music.
brah: "hey, bro, do you know what band this is playing?" me: "Widespread Panic." brah: "Widespread Panic huh? Alright. (then to himself walking away) ...widespread panic..."
meanwhile all the wooks at bonnaroo are spun beyond belief at Widespread Panic... without wristbands.
Yeah, only "frat boys" drink beer and smoke cigs at Roo.
I didn't say that. You totally misread my post it seems. I didn't say there was anything wrong with drinking beer and smoking at shows, I said there WAS A PROBLEM WITH IT WHEN IT MESSED WITH MY ENJOYMENT OF THE SHOW. "Frat dudes" aren't the only ones that do this however they are the ones who are the most inconsiderate in my experience. There is a big difference in a 30 year old person having a beer and a smoke at a show and a 22 year old person doing the same thing.
Right, you said that frat brahs ruin shows by spilling beer on you and burning you with cigarettes. They're actually physically incapable of standing in a single spot and observe something without jumping around like an ape and throwing whatever is in their hands at surrounding poeple.
I'm 26. Four years ago I would get hammered at a concert, party, enjoy the show and not get into fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
Four years from now I will get hammered at concerts, party, enjoy the show and likely not get into any fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
If you saw me walking around at Roo, you'd likely label me a "brah" because I'm from NY (noticeable accent), I'm a meathead that you can tell works out, and I'm LOUD (like....inhumanly loud). But you won't find me spilling beer on you or burning you with a cigarette. I think you're confusing terms here. You probably had one bad experience with a group of neanderthals in sun-visors or something and are choosing to project that experience on anyone who you think is a "frat boy". Let me clarify, if that is indeed what happened to you, it wasn't because the guy was a "brah", it was because he was an asshole.
I didn't say that. You totally misread my post it seems. I didn't say there was anything wrong with drinking beer and smoking at shows, I said there WAS A PROBLEM WITH IT WHEN IT MESSED WITH MY ENJOYMENT OF THE SHOW. "Frat dudes" aren't the only ones that do this however they are the ones who are the most inconsiderate in my experience. There is a big difference in a 30 year old person having a beer and a smoke at a show and a 22 year old person doing the same thing.
Right, you said that frat brahs ruin shows by spilling beer on you and burning you with cigarettes. They're actually physically incapable of standing in a single spot and observe something without jumping around like an ape and throwing whatever is in their hands at surrounding poeple.
I'm 26. Four years ago I would get hammered at a concert, party, enjoy the show and not get into fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
Four years from now I will get hammered at concerts, party, enjoy the show and likely not get into any fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
If you saw me walking around at Roo, you'd likely label me a "brah" because I'm from NY (noticeable accent), I'm a meathead that you can tell works out, and I'm LOUD (like....inhumanly loud). But you won't find me spilling beer on you or burning you with a cigarette. I think you're confusing terms here. You probably had one bad experience with a group of neanderthals in sun-visors or something and are choosing to project that experience on anyone who you think is a "frat boy". Let me clarify, if that is indeed what happened to you, it wasn't because the guy was a "brah", it was because he was an asshole.
Post by nodepression on Jan 10, 2012 23:47:46 GMT -5
I love when I'm walking by a group, think they're definitely going to be some burnout, but instead here them talking about who was drumming in an obscure midwest band from the 1980's and why their second album is way better than the first.
I didn't say that. You totally misread my post it seems. I didn't say there was anything wrong with drinking beer and smoking at shows, I said there WAS A PROBLEM WITH IT WHEN IT MESSED WITH MY ENJOYMENT OF THE SHOW. "Frat dudes" aren't the only ones that do this however they are the ones who are the most inconsiderate in my experience. There is a big difference in a 30 year old person having a beer and a smoke at a show and a 22 year old person doing the same thing.
Right, you said that frat brahs ruin shows by spilling beer on you and burning you with cigarettes. They're actually physically incapable of standing in a single spot and observe something without jumping around like an ape and throwing whatever is in their hands at surrounding poeple.
I'm 26. Four years ago I would get hammered at a concert, party, enjoy the show and not get into fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
Four years from now I will get hammered at concerts, party, enjoy the show and likely not get into any fights or injure/maim an innocent bystander.
If you saw me walking around at Roo, you'd likely label me a "brah" because I'm from NY (noticeable accent), I'm a meathead that you can tell works out, and I'm LOUD (like....inhumanly loud). But you won't find me spilling beer on you or burning you with a cigarette. I think you're confusing terms here. You probably had one bad experience with a group of neanderthals in sun-visors or something and are choosing to project that experience on anyone who you think is a "frat boy". Let me clarify, if that is indeed what happened to you, it wasn't because the guy was a "brah", it was because he was an asshole.
But the thread was which is worse and in my experience brahs are worse. End of story.
I love when I'm walking by a group, think they're definitely going to be some burnout, but instead here them talking about who was drumming in an obscure midwest band from the 1980's and why their second album is way better than the first.
Post by natedagreat on Jan 11, 2012 11:55:25 GMT -5
There's an upside to both sides IMO. Every now and again you'd see a brah see someone in trouble and always help out. There's always that one über responsible individual with his brahs who's looking out for them that's nowhere near their level of intoxication. I've seen brahs carry passed out people they don't even know out of crowds. Wooks will share stuff with their neighbors at camps and shows from my experiences. They will always have someone at their camps recovering or chilling waiting for an act, so there's always someone to talk to or ask for their hand. They will rarely make noises above a loud laugh. And at times they can be quite entertaining just to watch.
However, both have downfalls as well. I agree with the brah stereotype of plowing their way into a crowd, spilling beer on you and trying to rub up against your girlfriend. I see it all the time and I don't know if anyone else here waited an hour and a half to see a show at the late night tents and almost got trampled 30 minutes into the show by some big asshole who's screaming "RAGE!!!!! RAGE!!!" at his posse every 30 seconds. I can't enjoy a show if I'm focusing on keeping my shoulders square and my feet on the ground. They also trash campsites something awful. But, not as nasty or smelly as a true wook encampment. So honestly after that, I prefer Wooks. Cool people, don't ruin the vibe.
i walked into bonnaroo this year with my backpack hot off the AT. walking in with a girl i met on the greyhound, it was hot as balls and we were super dehydrated. about 1000 feet before the gate, some wooks on a blanket under a canopy allowed us to get some shade and some water and gave us a beer for the rest of the walk. they smelled terrible, were missing teeth, had disturbingly raspy voices, and couldn't keep a conversation on topic. i didnt question where they got the beer, but they were nice and helped us out in a shitty situation.
but apart from those wooks, i don't recall seeing any the rest of the weekend. at least no prominent encounters. lots and lots of Trustafarians, but i honestly can't recall any other wooks in recollection.
^^^ kudos to this - back during Metallica -> MMJ got into a really "heady" situation getting lost trying to get back to my campsite = salty wooks saved the day. Strange folk - same exact MO but totally turned down the intensity of the situation for who I was with.
i'm curious what everyone here considers themselves to be.
i have some friends that consider me a dude-bro, some that refer to me as 'the hippie'. depends on their perspective.
it's tricky to think of how i would categorize myself. former angsty teen? suburban guy with a biblical name? well-intentioned slacker? i'd probably vote for well-intentioned slacker.
Post by Lawn Gnome on Jan 17, 2012 19:04:47 GMT -5
^I think a lot of how we and others view ourselves depends on perspective. We're just discussing nasty stereotypes and the people who shamelessly confirm them at Bonnaroo. You're probably in neither group...
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