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Post by ltravestyl on Jan 22, 2008 19:17:01 GMT -5
I do believe 05 was the biggest year. I remember being stuck all the way next to the gate in from Bushy Branch and the crowd at shows was friggin huge!! It was much better after they cut it back for 06. There was easily over 100k people there in 05 if you include staff and volunteers, not to mention the people that manage to sneak into the campground to peddle their wares and what have you.
I thought last year was great, longest wait I had in security was probably 15 minutes and then there was the one time I had to go back to my camp from the security line after the discovery of some contraband, but other than that, great!
Post by spookymonster on Jan 22, 2008 19:51:07 GMT -5
asdoye111 said:
spookymonster said:
I say they should sell 100,000 tickets, but then dig camouflaged tiger pits randomly across Centroo to keep crowds manageable (and the tigers happy... no one likes an unhappy tiger). In exchange for the threat of imminent death, they should make grilled cheese sandwiches free for everyone all weekend.
i love paying $300 to be eaten by a vicious cat creature...
would they at least have it mapped out where the tiger pits are, or is it like a secret. This way the responsible ones would know where not to walk, and the idiots would be punished for their sins.
Maps of all the tiger pits would cost an extra $300, but would come with a commemorative T-shirt. The T-shirt would have a picture of an albino snow tiger gnawing on a wookie with the caption, "I can haz hippie?" underneath.
I think all these "official" totals are on the low side, especially 04 where they figured if you added in gate jumpers it was closer to 100,000. Personally, 80 thousand is just right. The parking Nazis let you have a little more space, the port-a-potties stay clean a little longer, the entrance lines move along quicker, the whole scene is just a little less tense...
I'm hoping Superfly sees it that way too and doesn't get greedy. Bigger isn't necessarially better.
I say no to increased capacity. It was incredible see the change between 03 and 04. 10,000 people can make a huge difference. It was much more crowded...in the campsites and Centeroo.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
i love paying $300 to be eaten by a vicious cat creature...
would they at least have it mapped out where the tiger pits are, or is it like a secret. This way the responsible ones would know where not to walk, and the idiots would be punished for their sins.
Maps of all the tiger pits would cost an extra $300, but would come with a commemorative T-shirt. The T-shirt would have a picture of an albino snow tiger gnawing on a wookie with the caption, "I can haz hippie?" underneath.
I don't know...I think they could just list the locations of the Tiger pits in the guide book right next to the description of the new pit rules and only very few people would ever see it anyways... At least judging from last year.....
Post by almostcertain on Jan 22, 2008 23:01:08 GMT -5
spookymonster said:
I say they should sell 100,000 tickets, but then dig camouflaged tiger pits randomly across Centroo to keep crowds manageable (and the tigers happy... no one likes an unhappy tiger). In exchange for the threat of imminent death, they should make grilled cheese sandwiches free for everyone all weekend.
I've also gotten the feeling that this will be the biggest Roo ever... Even though it's amazing every year, something truly special is going to happen on the farm in 08.
Post by gogogajoob on Jan 23, 2008 14:36:02 GMT -5
heheheh... the 'bonna-week' idea is awesome but i'd never be able to afford it...
I think the big issue that the organizers need to deal with is the wait to get into centeroo. That big ugly VIP area is right in the way of where the mainstage entrance used to be, and now easily 2/3rds of the campers end up using the rainbow entrance. They should stick a nice big entrance over by the forest and encourage BFEers to head down that way into centeroo. I know they had one there last year, but there's was something weird about it if i recall and nobody seemed to know about it.
That or maybe just make the rainbow entrance wider, there's a lot more room for it.
Post by BrokenLight on Jan 23, 2008 17:40:35 GMT -5
don't jump to conclusions ethic, my first thoughts when i heard tool were headlining was, what kind of crowd is this going to bring in, are they going to be dark, violent, angry people, but minutes after that i realized, what the hell am i thinking, i'm an idiot, that's not going to happen, and sure enough it didn't
Post by SouthGA_Festival Machine on Jan 23, 2008 17:45:57 GMT -5
You got that right, nothing but anger and bitterness last year. God I hope Tool comes back soon ;D
ethic said:
I'm more concerned with the type of people than with the amount. I'd rather camp with 100,000 carefree, positive people than 100 angry and bitter folk. Which is why I didn't make the show last year. Tool. Ick..
I'm more concerned with the type of people than with the amount. I'd rather camp with 100,000 carefree, positive people than 100 angry and bitter folk. Which is why I didn't make the show last year. Tool. Ick..
Thumbs down. Who cares what kind of music people listen to? I had an amazing time with everyone last year.
I'm more concerned with the type of people than with the amount. I'd rather camp with 100,000 carefree, positive people than 100 angry and bitter folk. Which is why I didn't make the show last year. Tool. Ick..
I LOOK like June Cleaver. Clean cut professional. And I love Tool My partner for Bonnaroo is tattooed and pierced with Slayer T-shirts, and is a gentle soul. We make a cute couple Don't judge the package
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Jan 23, 2008 18:16:27 GMT -5
ethic said:
I'm more concerned with the type of people than with the amount. I'd rather camp with 100,000 carefree, positive people than 100 angry and bitter folk. Which is why I didn't make the show last year. Tool. Ick..
Agreed!
i remember 2004 was my first roo and there was this guy walking up and down the road picking up trash and he kept saying, "that's what happens when dave matthews comes!"
and it's so true. I'm not down dmb or tool (but honestly, I'm not a huge fan of either) but the crowds of people groups like that may bring can definately take away from the roo experience.
I understand why those groups are there but there are those cocky frat boys who come to see solely those bands and litter all over the state of tennessee in every way!
Post by mulcherry0420 on Jan 23, 2008 22:29:33 GMT -5
Tool Rules. No matter what environment you are in, there will still be litter bugs and people less considerate than yourself. I drew to the conclusion that Damien Rice was more for girls, but what i saw of the show was fantastic, only three songs or so. I was in the middle of Ziggy, Xavier, and ben harper. But now my new love interest has ruined damien for me. so .. thats that i gues. hah
Post by kaleidoscope kristen on Jan 23, 2008 22:32:49 GMT -5
Even though 07 was my first roo, the diversity of people was very apparent to me.
You had your so called neo-hippies. Then you had the regular concert goers... and most noticeably the younger frat & sorority types. And all other types in between.
Bonnaroo is about bringing people from all walks of life together, and I'm down for massive crowds, as long as they respect the property, enjoy the music, and don't diss anything.
This is off topic, but I saw some kids that were in the marketplace that got caught stealing from a jewelry vendor, and people were walking by saying some pretty crappy stuff to them.
The owner and a few other people were watching them to make sure they didn't duck off while security or some bonnaroo officials were on the way, and I'm sure if they did that they probably could have feathered back out into the crowd and get away.
But, I'm not sure what happened to those people, but I know I wouldn't do that in my normal setting of life.. Bonnaroo is about sharing and giving, and stealing is totally wrong in any way shape, or form, but I would feel like a jackass myself yelling at them and calling them names as I walked by.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jan 23, 2008 22:36:06 GMT -5
superbek said:
ethic said:
I'm more concerned with the type of people than with the amount. I'd rather camp with 100,000 carefree, positive people than 100 angry and bitter folk. Which is why I didn't make the show last year. Tool. Ick..
Agreed!
i remember 2004 was my first roo and there was this guy walking up and down the road picking up trash and he kept saying, "that's what happens when dave matthews comes!"
and it's so true. I'm not down dmb or tool (but honestly, I'm not a huge fan of either) but the crowds of people groups like that may bring can definately take away from the roo experience.
I understand why those groups are there but there are those cocky frat boys who come to see solely those bands and litter all over the state of tennessee in every way!
This may come as a shock, but there were frat guy douches (and litter) at Bonnaroo before 2004. The only reason there may have been more litter that year was there were more people.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Post by masshysteria on Jan 27, 2008 21:07:34 GMT -5
(Not directed to anyone, just opinion from reading this thread)
I am a fan of Tool and they do not just thrive on despair, anger and pretentiousness (but those are all traits that we all have even if we hide it from ourselves), they thrive on climbing out of despair (be it druggs, alcohol, relationships, insert other bad things that have happened too someone in this world), learning to be yourself (which is a hard thing to do), hope (there is only one way out of a downward spiral and that is hope) and anger is a feeling that needs to be released, not pent up (that is where the real trouble can come from, be it the hippies all the way to the meatheads). Isnt that in a way every kind of music that is out there? You have to have an ego to be a professional musician, music is both a form of entertainment and a form of therapy. Tool just relate their message in a more aggressive sound yet (if you have listened to any of their last 2 albums) have a very sensitive soft side (to ethic, please if you listen to one Tool song ever, listen and read the lyrics of Wings for Marie 1 & 2, that is one of most emotionally charged songs about a mother figure I have ever listened to) . If you take their music in the negative way of course it will have a negative effect, but if you look at the music as this as low as you can go and still able to get out of it, then it is a positive reaction. If you really read the lyrics and listen to the muscianship of Tool, then it really isnt that dark, they just have an image of being a dark band because they are not plastered all over TV/magazines/internet with smiles, quotes, or fuzzy animals (sorry Flaming Lips fans for that little jab).
It is funny that the debate of Tool and Radiohead are still going on when they really didnt change the vibe all too much in the long run. The Police had much more influence last year in the logistics (bigger VIP, more expensive tickets, etc) of setting up roo then Tool did (other than the no cameras rules which if you were clever you could still bring your camera in).
Really how different has the roo scene become having maybe 20 bands total of all the years of roo that do not fit the typical roo environment? Tool and Radiohead were (I think) 2 of the most influential bands of the 90's (many others but those 2 will be in all lists, that is just a fact). I think it would be a disservice to the roo community to just push the same "jam" bands everyyear when roo has the ability to be that influential to a lot of people. In fact I am guessing that this year we are going to have some industrial influence (there seems to be no problem with all of the electronica at the festival when that supposidely has a real dark side in both no no word and society...not that I agree but a lot of people think that) and I think one of these bands will be here this year: either Ministry, KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, or Aphex Twin.
Off of soapbox (sorry I have been studying all day and needed to vent a little, and if the only thing you remember from this post is that opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one)
The great thing about roo is that no matter who you are, if you come to the roo, you will leave a fan of many bands that you never thought you would be a fan of. Just be open to change because if roo didnt change, it would just be "another" festival, not the event that is now.
"That's the big thing about education. People can be book smart, but not really intelligent about anything else. A lot of times they just taking in all this information and regurgitate it. It's much more important to process it and personalize it. To apply it to your world, to your life. You have to walk the walk, or you can't really report about it honestly."
Post by crazykittensmile on Jan 27, 2008 23:18:43 GMT -5
masshysteria said:
The great thing about roo is that no matter who you are, if you come to the roo, you will leave a fan of many bands that you never thought you would be a fan of. Just be open to change because if roo didnt change, it would just be "another" festival, not the event that is now.
so well put. and very very true. super mega karma boost in 3, 2, 1...
"That's the big thing about education. People can be book smart, but not really intelligent about anything else. A lot of times they just taking in all this information and regurgitate it. It's much more important to process it and personalize it. To apply it to your world, to your life. You have to walk the walk, or you can't really report about it honestly."
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Stanky McNasty The Artist formerly known as Samus
I am a fan of Tool and they do not just thrive on despair, anger and pretentiousness (but those are all traits that we all have even if we hide it from ourselves), they thrive on climbing out of despair (be it druggs, alcohol, relationships, insert other bad things that have happened too someone in this world), learning to be yourself (which is a hard thing to do), hope (there is only one way out of a downward spiral and that is hope) and anger is a feeling that needs to be released, not pent up (that is where the real trouble can come from, be it the hippies all the way to the meatheads). Isnt that in a way every kind of music that is out there? You have to have an ego to be a professional musician, music is both a form of entertainment and a form of therapy. Tool just relate their message in a more aggressive sound yet (if you have listened to any of their last 2 albums) have a very sensitive soft side (to ethic, please if you listen to one Tool song ever, listen and read the lyrics of Wings for Marie 1 & 2, that is one of most emotionally charged songs about a mother figure I have ever listened to) . If you take their music in the negative way of course it will have a negative effect, but if you look at the music as this as low as you can go and still able to get out of it, then it is a positive reaction. If you really read the lyrics and listen to the muscianship of Tool, then it really isnt that dark, they just have an image of being a dark band because they are not plastered all over TV/magazines/internet with smiles, quotes, or fuzzy animals (sorry Flaming Lips fans for that little jab).
when i get the chance, you're getting karma for this post. Thank you.
Hell last year with 80,000 people there it didn't seem too crowded at all.
...Really? I thought it was pretty damn crowded...
ditto that...i was up here for tool ...when i finally decided to get out of this crowd it took over a half hour (I think?). I would say, please no more crowded.
Post by tellertrash on Jan 29, 2008 20:08:46 GMT -5
i didnt realize how crowded it was until sunday during the day. i think 80000 is plenty. unless they want to buy a few more acres... but until then. they should just keep it capped at 80
Post by The Killer Bee Relay Team on Jan 30, 2008 9:04:41 GMT -5
According to a business release that I saw (sent from the Bonnaroo peeps), last year had over 90,000 tickets sold. I know that, in 2006, they cut it to 80,000. The 80,000 was substantially less crowded. If Superfly really pushes it to 100,000 this year...well...let's just hope not.
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