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I think Bradford is a more than serviceable QB and Amendola is one of the most underrated receivers in the league. The Rams are trending up, in my opinion, I don't know if that will translate into anything this season or not.
Oh definitely, Bradford has all the tools to dominate, I'm just saying that I wish he would get more consistent in demonstrating those skills. He'll have a drive or a quarter of excellent, and then come out with two or three 3-and-outs where he looks like he's never played football before or is to afraid phantom rushers are going to appear from underneath him at any moment. The line has been an improvement this year, but we may need to invest in Luke Joechel, and we have the draft picks to move up and get him.
Amendola is so damn good. I love him and I love the way the coaching staff has used him this year. Spags and Crew had him in the slot almost exclusively, and he was awesome there but his average yardage was something like 6/yds per catch. This staff has used him on the outside, in the slot, anywhere they want to attack the Defense, and he's just exploded...when he's been healthy. With the rise of Chris Givens, I think this Offense could be really good...next year....assuming a competent offensive line and the ascent of of Bradford.
The Jets are 1 game out of a playoff spot. That is hilarious.
This is why nobody takes the AFC seriously.
Oh, knock it off. The Jets trounced the Rams, who beat your division leader and the best team in the NFC is an overrated Falcons team that's going to lose in the second round after a bye week.
Let's not get too crazy, neither conference is all that stacked.
I know you're not dumb enough to believe that the team with the best record is actually the best team. The Falcons have a gaudy record, but they've got an incredibly weak SOS.
The best team is probably either the 49ers, Giants or Packers.
No, if I was putting $ down on an NFC team to make the Super Bowl, it'd be San Fran. But, they don't do seeding that way so I referred to the team with the record as the 'best team.' I think the Pats are the best team in the AFC, but their record isn't indicative of that so I won't call them the best until they beat the best team (which may happen tonight). My point was that the #1 seed in the NFC is just as likely to lose as their opponent.
And let's not get into that whole "Jets beat the Rams, who beat the 49ers, so the Jets are better than the 49ers!" bit because you're better than that. You can make a circle chart out of all the teams in the NFL this year, based on who beat who.
That's not what I'm saying at all. The Jets lost by like 40 to the Niners, so I would never use that reasoning (and I wouldn't do it for any team, like when the Colts beat the Packers and the Jets trounced the Colts...I never once said "y'know, the Jets are right on par with the Packers!" Because that would be dumb.). My point is that to just scoff at the AFC is unfair.
The Simple Rating System that Pro Football Reference uses to rank teams on a +/- scale, with the + being "points above average," has 4 of the top 7 from the NFC (Niners/Seahawks/Giants/Bears) and 3 of the top 7 from the AFC (Pats/Broncos/Texans).
I think the main difference is the AFC has the 3 of the 5 worst teams in the NFL (Raiders/Jags/Chiefs vs. Iggles/Cards), but their "worst teams" are WAY worse than the NFC's. The disparity from the #1 and #16 in the AFC is much greater than it is in the NFC, and that's not because the NFC's top team is worse, it's because their worst team is better.
I've watched multiple Jets games this year, because they always seem to be on. They're not good. And I don't have any issue with the Jets, I don't dislike them or have some goofy bias. They're just not a good football team. No amount of barely beating the Cardinals or the Jaguars is going to change that.
You seem to be under the impression that I think they are. I don't. I think their defense is good, their special teams is average and their offense is putrid. That's mainly because their starting QB is insultingly awful, but that's besides the point.
Sometimes teams that aren't very good scrap and get to a playoff spot, hell, you rooted for a 7-9 team that won a division! My point is, the disparity between the AFC and NFC is not even close to how the media portrays it.
Post by FatKeystone on Dec 10, 2012 17:08:32 GMT -5
I think that the Jets being in the playoff hunt this late in the season and are only one game under .500 is really incredible considering everything that's happened this year. I think because of this, the organization deserves a little bit of a break. With the worst starting QB in the NFL, and possibly the NFL's worst offense (personnel and performance wise) in the last few years, somehow the Jets are still semi-contenders. I think Woody and Tanny deserve a little bit of a break, because it proves that this team may not be as far away from being a sure-fire playoff contender as once thought.
I know most of their wins have been against awful teams but I really think the fact they still have a semi-legitimate playoff shot is really remarkable. I'm not the biggest Woody and Tannenbaum fans (I still think bringing in Tebow was the absolute worst move this franchise maybe has ever made). Still though, I think some of the blame needs to be relaxed a little bit. Look, I don't think the Jets are going to make the playoffs and if they do, I know they're going to get beat down in the first round. But just the fact that they're in the hunt after Week 14 really is unbelievable and makes me actually kind of optimistic for the future.
So the Jets have the 10th worst SOS and are 6-7 and one game out of a playoff spot, with an inept QB, a horribly bad offense, an underachieving but improving defense, a crappy offensive coordinator, and a head coach and GM potentially on the hot seat? I'll take it.
So the Jets have the 10th worst SOS and are 6-7 and one game out of a playoff spot, with an inept QB, a horribly bad offense, an underachieving but improving defense, a crappy offensive coordinator, and a head coach and GM potentially on the hot seat? I'll take it.
And he does all this from the bench, Fucking amazing what Tebow can do for a team.
Pats on their way up, will have #2 seed on lockdown within 5 weeks. That secondary will upgrade from "worst of all time" to "mediocre" when Chung and Gregory come back from injury, no worries.
Well, I just ashed all over myself so I have bigger issues than saving face in an NFL thread. Jets win a week from today (yes, Jets/Titans are the MNF game next week....let that sh*t marinate for a second) they are 7-7 and AT WORST a game out.
This has nothing to do with the Pats beasting again, but at least they weren't a sure thing for all 17 weeks, right? ........right?
Pats are a flawed team. All the teams are this year, but they're more flawed than Houston/Niners/Giants and Baltimore if they sort their defense out.
Sorry, when I said 5 weeks, I meant 6 weeks. :smug:
This might be my second favorite early October conversation in this thread, only behind a serious and legitimate debate as to whether the Arizona Cardinals could be considered a top 5 team.
Well, I just ashed all over myself so I have bigger issues than saving face in an NFL thread. Jets win a week from today (yes, Jets/Titans are the MNF game next week....let that sh*t marinate for a second) they are 7-7 and AT WORST a game out.
This has nothing to do with the Pats beasting again, but at least they weren't a sure thing for all 17 weeks, right? ........right?
God. Dammit.
So... going with pipe dreams, Browns win out, Dolphins go 2-1, Jets 1-2, Stealers 1-2... BROWNS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!
Who am I kidding. I'm just glad we've won 3 in a row, actually laid the wood to a team we should have beaten handily. Hell, Travis Benjamin returned that punt, I was jumping up and down, droid flew out of my pocket and landed on the concrete in 80 pieces, I was so happy I didn't even care. They could have come and put the jacket on me and I still would have been smiling!
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Peyton? He doesn't get discussed? His team has the same record as Brady's.
He's in the discussion, and he's putting up great numbers, but on the other hand, 1-3 against teams with a winning record
Fair point. Brady also lost to Arizona, though. At least Manning's losses came against 3 good teams.
And before you say it, I know Brady won the head-to-head.
Just saying that it's still open for either guy to take it. I think whoever ends up with the higher seed and a first round bye in the playoffs ends up winning it.
Probably not, but I still think he should. Honestly you could make a case for all three of those guys and they would be deserving of the award, but what Peterson has done this year is on another level if physical capability.