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Plus, we would obvioully kill a mafia member either way. If we let LLL live we might not.
I don't know what to do really.
Very good point. If WVL is a fake inspector the mafia will be forced to whack him tonight to make him look credible. We are in trouble either way but leaving WVL around has a better chance of working I would think
Baconus66>>>LLL
I'd really like to vote him off and be done with him.
What could a possible mafia angle be here? Get LLL voted off. Make the two of us look guilty and try to when in the 4th with two people that have been hidden? Unless they took out two townies in the first and let viking live. That cuts the numbers down and makes things even more confussing.
I don't know what we should do. I defo don't believe him. It just doesn't make sense.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 16, 2012 23:04:17 GMT -5
Either way we go, we get a Mafia off this round, they will have to kill him I imagine.
If they keep him around, then he will likely reference our last game together, and how Mafia kept me around after I admitted to being Inspector, and I turned out to truly be the Inspector.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Ok this game is distracting me from my homework. I'm out for the night. At this point I think lynching LLL is the better choice to have a chance this game. No matter what this is creating chaos and chaos is always good for the mafia, but that at least gives a decent chance that we will have killed one of them by Day 2. I honestly have no idea where we will go from there though
I'm really tempted to suggest something but I don't know if I should. It might be important to give us a chance but it might just make things worse in the longrun.
Viking may be trying to distance himself from Bacon here.
Or from me, which he isn't.
That's one of the things I was bringing up earlier in the game. He has been trying to discredit the two of us early on now he as hinting at us being mafia with him.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 16, 2012 23:30:18 GMT -5
Well, viking saying that I would try to pull fake Inspector is because he thought that when I changed my vote to him so randomly that I was the real Inspector and that I had his name. I also made some other associations when that happened, so go back and read some of that guys because they clearly thought that I was the real Inspector to begin with for some reason.
Vikings "facts" vs my "hunches" ahahahahahah. Nice.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
But what if EAP DIDN'T change the roles up????? I mean, I was given the Townie role in Mafia 48a as well as Mafia 48b. What's to say the restart didn't just switch out who(m?)ever was the 11th player that was supposed to be included in Mafia 48a? I mean, if EAP just switched out one name for the other and kept the same roles for everyone else, thats not really random, now is it??
That's sort of what messed up the first game and why we had to start over. That's how Viking figured out Bonnie even thought he brags like he had something to do with figuring out.
I mean, what are the odds that Viking draws inspector and then mafia back to back? There's a 1 in 11 chance of Inspector, and a 3 out of 11 chance of drawing Mafia.
Sense you are counting 48a LLL has been inspector then mafia Mike has been Mafia/inspector/mafia. I've been mafia/ inspector but I set out a game in between. Noage has been mafia then inspector Omar has been mafia then inspector
Noage is the only example that is older then 10 games or so.
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Plus, we would obvioully kill a mafia member either way. If we let LLL live we might not.
I don't know what to do really.
Very good point. If WVL is a fake inspector the mafia will be forced to whack him tonight to make him look credible. We are in trouble either way but leaving WVL around has a better chance of working I would think
Baconus66>>>LLL
I'm starting to think we shouldn't do this. I just don't buy into this at all. I don't see any way he could be inspector. Like you said, he would be the worst player in mafia history if he were inspector. LIKE BEYOND BAD.
I think the mafia was hoping to get him through the runoff and then whack who they now think is the inspector. That gives him another round to cause all sorts of problems and muck up things even worse. That's two townies down in round one.
Second round, Viking tries to play it off like what happened to LLL two games back. He would probably go after you or me and spread doudt on an unknown third. Then mafia would give weight to what he is saying and whack him then.
Third round, people finally belive him and vote off you or me, I would guess? Sense we are two of the people he has been targeting from early on. I'm the obvious one for sticking up for LLL, which I know you guys get annoyed by. But what I find funny is he also said Bacon had falling for her trap as well. when he clearly hasn't he has been all for putting her in a runoff.
Forth round, I think they thought they would have two mafia left and could figure out how to win it because of all the confusing, etc. Viking can misrepresent and spin things all he wants. He is clearly partly to blame for all the drama in this game and he has clearly taken to much part in continuing it to be the inspector. That should be crystal clear. He's also playing the victim card on a level I've never seen in this game. Selective memory to the extreme.
SFA >>> Viking
Edit: Took out something mean because I didn't want Viking to have more to cry about. But you can always cry because I edited the post. You know like a real inspector does. Point out people he has no clue about and point to them as being guilty based on some bullshit that proves nothing. That's how a real team player and even more so how an inspector plays the game.
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Well, if he's faking this is going to be freaking hard and if he's telling the truth it's going to be worse.
IF he is faking, the real inspector needs to stay hiden until the next round. If that isn't obvious.
I know this could come back to bite us in the ass but what the hell. If people start believing Viking we are pretty much fucked anyway, the way I see it.
INSPECTOR, if your given name wasn't viking and you are in anyway unsure of making it through the next round. Maybe you should consider coming forward now and not risking getting whacked? That at least gives us two names and we can hopefully figure out the third.
If you got Viking's name then I would probably risk it. I think he did such a shit job in the first round nobody belives him and it would be better to risk getting a second name.
Again townies, I know this is going to make the game even harder but I don't see them pulling this stunt unless they were pretty sure on the inspector. It's not like this argument wasn't bound to happen anyway.
This shinznit is crazy. Some of you guys made valid points that if LLL gets voted off we are almost guaranteed to be down one mafia one way or another. I think I need to stay with Viking though. I just really can't see an inspector acting like he has. Inspector's are always on the quieter side- trying to stay out of suspicion. If one of the two, and only one of the two, are mafia, I really feel like it has to be Viking.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I have been thinking about my previous statement. I am basing this on how Viking has been playing, but I have not seen him play before. Can you all help me with this? I believe it's been said this is on par, but maybe a little more crazy than usual?
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
This shinznit is crazy. Some of you guys made valid points that if LLL gets voted off we are almost guaranteed to be down one mafia one way or another. I think I need to stay with Viking though. I just really can't see an inspector acting like he has. Inspector's are always on the quieter side- trying to stay out of suspicion. If one of the two, and only one of the two, are mafia, I really feel like it has to be Viking.
If they do decide to keep him around (I mean we've already discredited him, they may decide to keep him and let us vote him of next round while he tries to create more shit), then we will be down 2 townies if I get voted off because they may then come after who they think is Inspector as the kill. If you don't believe Viking is telling the truth (I know it, but I also have the inside information of knowing my role as townie for sure, where as you have to choose who to believe), then it is probably better to not risk us being down 2 townies this early in the game.
I guess it comes down to deciding whether or not you believe him. Pretty far fetched story, pretty obvious attempt to set me up as a possible fake Inspector because he thought I had his name, hence my sudden change in vote to him, pretty obvious behavior that is contrary to the goal of Inspector, plus the odds alone. So those who have doubt about his story and are Townies would probably be best off NOT voting off me. Those who believe his story or who are Mafia will feel differently.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Those of you who are voting for Viking - why would he fake inspector in the first round? What benefit to the mafia would it be? I can understand the reasoning for it in second, third, etc rounds because the mafia typically need just need to buy themselves one more round if they are doing it. If he fakes in the first round, it is going to come out that he was faking with rounds left to play. The only way I see Viking faking is if he has at least one of SFA, LLL, maybe Bacon with him, i.e. a more experienced player that can twist their way through or simply talk their way out of it and get to the later rounds easily.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 17, 2012 11:39:21 GMT -5
Mike, you've played enough to know better than that. Dumbest Inspector Move Ever. And he has played games and researched games so it's not like he doesn't know that it was the dumbest move ever. He was Inspector last game, and he even made comments about laying low, so he knows that is what he supposed to know. He knows Inspector doesn't shit all over 2-3 players.
Jesus Mike if you pulled the Mafia card again, there is no way I am partying at your RV. Your chances of getting struck by lightening must be overwhelming.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Roonectar - you haven't posted anything since Friday, 7 pages ago. You have left your vote where it is, does anything change with this since Viking came out as inspector?
Post by CMPMGCTRCKS on Apr 17, 2012 12:12:04 GMT -5
This has been the most ridiculous first round ever. Part of me believes Viking though. When you read all 15 pages of this round, slowly, and from an outside viewpoint, it seems as if LLL has twisted words around a bit more than Viking. I don't know though....
This whole inspector coming out in round 1 thing makes no sense. Viking, you're a smart guy and have done your homework, why would you do this? The only thing I can see that would point to you not being mafia is if emotion took over.
Either way, I don't believe either of you yet, and I'm just gonna hold steady on my vote and see what happens between rounds.
I am just logging in to let you all know, I am leaving inforoo for an extended break. Over the last month and a half, it has been great to get to know some of you and talk on chat.
I have not read the last page and a half, but I assume it calls me dumb a few times and says I am faking it, which is frankly why I am leaving. The person insults combined with the fact that this game has been a huge time drain for me while other people spend no time on it combined are too much for me at this point. This game is where I spent most of my time on inforoo, and I spent so much time, it is affecting my family life and ability to start my own business. So after loggin out last night, I have decided to talk away until a week or two before roo.
Some of you have my private contact info from previous conversations. So as not to affect the integrity of the game, I will not PM current players. If any of you are looking to get in touch, PM fawnmart, since she has the info.
Good luck to the townies. I am sorry if you think I sucked as an inspector, but I did what I could. I am looking forward to talking to some of you and meeting up at Roo.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 17, 2012 13:00:12 GMT -5
Nick, are you sure you read the right PM from EAP? Im seriously asking because I'm having trouble discerning if you are being serious or not at this point. I have to say, that if you are Inspector, which I doubt, you do not have my name so go back and check before you do something like that sugar.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 17, 2012 13:01:39 GMT -5
We're all playing a game here in the role as we choose to play it. As I already stated, if you are taking anything that we are saying personally or seriously then you are mistaken and I apologize.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.