Mafia 52 - (need one more for Mafia 53)

Day 4 tally

LD - 1
Roonectar - 2
Kiko - 2

Kiko >> LD
JimmyRoo >> Roonectar
Roonectar>>Kiko
Viking >>> Roonectar
LD>>>Kiko


Left to Vote:


Fawnmart will set proposed ending times for voting. She should be back from her excursion early in the evening. If there are any vote changes this afternoon Ill keep the tally up to date.

FawnMart is going to let this round run overnight, as she will not be up for any late night mafia antics, and it looks like folks want time to read and reply tonight.


(It was a good day off. First time fishing that far out for me. My best guess is about 16 miles offshore. Oh yea - first time fishing in about 30 years.

The big boy on the filet table is mine. We named him Friday (as in dinner.) We three caught 8 in total and took home 5 - 3 Fluke and 2 Porgy.) It was a below average day for the boat.

Thanks for covering Quacker!!

We now resume our regularly scheduled program.

OK, so we are kind of in a logic puzzle conundrum here with truth, false and random.

If Jimmy or I move to LD, the other then has the deciding vote in a potential runoff, but roonectar is removed from the runoff.

If roonectar moves to LD, LD is left with the deciding vote, and Roonectar is likely dead, again, unless JimmyRoo or I move off him, which leads us back to scenario one, only with Kiko left out of the runoff.

If no one moves, Kiko votes roo and roonectar dies.

Looking at it this way, it seems as if our decision is either roo is out of the runoff, or roo dies. It is good to note that no one backed roo into this position. By voting Kiko, who had no votes instead of LD, who had one, he placed Kiko into the runoff, since LD was not going to triple stack on himself.

If someone had backed him into this, I would move my vote, but for the moment, I am going to leave it there, unless discussion ensues to change it.

Just going to say this, since I don't have much time right now:

You kill me, townies lose. Plain and simple. Take me behind the shed, and there won't be much stopping a Mafia win.

Fwiw Jimmy, your chronology is a bit off. I don't mind saying this, I just want us to have everything in the right order. Hakuna made his argument of "someone voting for Kiko is mafia" BEFORE SFA came out as inspector. The reasoning I came up with as to why he did it was simply that he knew he had 3 townies together and could have a way to trap at least one of them. The next bit of reasoning I had was that he did explain away Roo quite quickly, so that is why I found him a bit more suspicious than you and NoAge. I hate that he he tied himself to me in this way, but that was possibly part of his reasoning too. Anyway, I just thought we should get all the facts straight to see things clearly.

Edit: "reasoning" >> "bit of reasoning"

I'll be leaving soon and won't return till after 7 tonight, so you can lock me in.

Focus on the behavior, not the person.

PLEASE refrain from name calling. You're all smart folks More than capable of getting your points across without the use of 'schmuck' and 'moron'. Lets kick the IQ level of these post back up a few notches please.

Sincerely,
The Management

The Mafia have spoken. RIP JimmyRoo. JimmyRoo is dead.



Day 5 begins:

Left to vote:

Viking
Roonectar
Kiko

I still think its kiko. Viking if you have tricked me again expect votes from me for every future

Well this is just downright shizzy. Roo, if I were mafia, why in the world would I vote off the one person that seemed to share mutual trust with me?? Honestly, between the two of you I hate to even have to decide. I have a fantasy draft that I'm already late for, so I'll add more after it ends.

So Random is now dead. That just leaves truth and lies from the Logic Puzzle.

I want to apologize to the townies in advance if I get this wrong. It is the second major error for me this game. Essentially, I had it narrowed to Kiko, roo, MC, and Hakuna in round 2 prior to SFA coming out, and instead of doing the smart thing and voting one of them off last round, I went with Jimmy and killed LD, since he made a fairly compelling case, and LD was not himself. Sorry LD.

I am really torn on this vote here. Roo, I have said before that staying silent to survive does not help me when I try to figure out what you are. I know you just said you would vote for me always, but seriously, when you have spoken up, who has defended you in the past? I really have no idea if you are a townie or not this game, since you stayed quiet until Day 4 when 2 mafia were already outed. That said, I am not convinced you are mafia either.

Kiko, I have no frame of reference, so i have no idea. You were right on Phi, but I don't know if you were just distancing from MC and Hakuna or if you really thought he was innocent when you had no way of knowing. It is always tough with new players, and you have switched up a few times, making it more confusing.

I am leaning one way right now, but would like to hear what Kiko has to say before I vote. As I said earlier, I am really torn on this one, but I think I know who I am going to vote for.

^^^ sorry this was based on an older post by Jimmy, earlier in day 4. Let me look at his final post and analyze the decision tree.

Kiko, you misquoted Jimmyroo a bit. The full quote is above. As you can see, the part you brought up was that he thought LD and I were the most suspicious all game UNTIL he went back and read the thread over. Once he read the thread over, he found you and LD to be the most suspicious. This post and his next post were what convinced me to vote LD, despite my misgivings on his status as mafia.

With regards to his whack, if I was mafia, why would I whack the 1 person who actually took the time to read the thread and said I was probably a townie? That would make no sense, especially since I have voted for roo in rounds 1,2, and 4. Also, you and I have not exactly agreed the entire game. Add to that the fact the whack came so close to the day's close, the mafia ensured Jimmyroo had no chance for last words over night.

I said in my earlier post I was leaning, and I was leaning towards you at the time. Now, I do not know if you just read the first half of what he said, or if it was intentionally designed to twist it, but this is why I always want to see what people have to say prior to voting.

I feel more comfortable voting for Kiko now (Although I still have serious misgivings). Roo, I swear, if you are mafia, this is the last time I ever step out on a limb for you, and will vote for you straight out until you participate and prove you are a townie. No more of this survival crap. But you volunteering to go in the runoff, tipped the scales, and I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Viking >>> Kiko

Well played for a first game.

Well I may have not read Jimmy's post the right way. I didn't put enough emphasis on "But as I got deeper". So that means he ended up trusting Roo the most, you 2nd, and myself last. Well this is quite shizzy for me tbh. It also adds to why Roo wouldn't have voted him off (assuming he read that).

All I can say is one of you is getting played, honestly I don't know which one though. Whoever is mafia is obviously playing at a fairly secondary level. Either viking threw out all those "call outs" against Hakuna and MC as cover in case he ended up last mafia or Roo volunteered himself as to show supreme confidence. Honestly I don't know enough history of mafia on here to know who plays like this more and who plays more straightforward.

This is quite simple, whoever is town, switch your vote right now and I guarantee victory. If I am lying, I will quit inforoo forever. Tomorrow if it says the town killed ___ and the mafia wins, you will never see me here ever again (assuming my partner isn't mafia of course). But this won't happen, it will say town won (assuming town switched). I absolutely guarantee I will delete my account and never return again to ever post on what is my vacation of the entire year, Bonnaroo, ever again.

Since I am equally confused, I will just say whoever switches at least gives town 50% chance, right now it is 0%.

And fwiw, Viking, I've played quite a poor game. I was far too confident early on and made a lot of mistakes. But that is fine, I've learned some lessons. Is "well played for a first game" supposed to mean "I figured you out noobie"? trying to sound like you've figured it all out to Roo?

I would love to see each of you say if you are lying you will quit inforoo forever. One of you either won't post it, will rescind on it, or will never be on here ever again. I've already laid my claim and you can ask my gambling friends, I always hold my end of the bet. Fortunately, I won't be the one paying up on this one.

Edit: posted something I shouldn't have