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Right now Rutgers gets on ESPNU, ESPN2, SNY (Mets' home network) and maybe MSG or something. They're rarely televised on a major network.
This deal is as much about the school getting more nationally-televised games as it is for the conference to get into the NY/NJ market.
That's clearly the arrangement for both schools, and both will benefit financially and with respect to visibility. But you can't tell me with a straight face that Rutgers' proximity to NYC (or Maryland's to DC) wasn't THE primary factor.
Right now Rutgers gets on ESPNU, ESPN2, SNY (Mets' home network) and maybe MSG or something. They're rarely televised on a major network.
This deal is as much about the school getting more nationally-televised games as it is for the conference to get into the NY/NJ market.
The NYC populace generally doesn't care about Rutgers....at all.
They're huge in NJ, but I'm willing to bet if you took a pool in the city of the top teams people root for, Rutgers wouldn't even be in the top 5.
I'm not from NYC, but I do understand that college football, particularly Rutgers, isn't a very big deal. However, the Big 10 will now muscle the regional cable providers there into carrying the station on the standard package (I have it standard here in Nashville). This will increase the profit returns for the conference (and subsequently Rutgers) tremendously.
If I sound a little bitchy, it's because I don't really like A) conference expansion in general, and B) TV markets being the driving force.
The NYC populace generally doesn't care about Rutgers....at all.
They're huge in NJ, but I'm willing to bet if you took a pool in the city of the top teams people root for, Rutgers wouldn't even be in the top 5.
I'm not from NYC, but I do understand that college football, particularly Rutgers, isn't a very big deal. However, the Big 10 will now muscle the regional cable providers there into carrying the station on the standard package (I have it standard here in Nashville). This will increase the profit returns for the conference (and subsequently Rutgers) tremendously.
If I sound a little bitchy, it's because I don't really like A) conference expansion in general, and B) TV markets being the driving force.
I don't think you sound bitchy, at least not towards me.
And I get what you're saying, in theory that's how it would work out. But the networks around here that are likely to carry a "Big 10" package is SNY/YES/MSG stuff like that. They air Big East and ACC games every Sunday, basically any game that isn't worth noting. That's the type of deal the Big 10 can expect with the local networks. It'll increase revenue, certainly, but it's not to the degree I think most people are expecting.
I'm not from NYC, but I do understand that college football, particularly Rutgers, isn't a very big deal. However, the Big 10 will now muscle the regional cable providers there into carrying the station on the standard package (I have it standard here in Nashville). This will increase the profit returns for the conference (and subsequently Rutgers) tremendously.
If I sound a little bitchy, it's because I don't really like A) conference expansion in general, and B) TV markets being the driving force.
I don't think you sound bitchy, at least not towards me.
And I get what you're saying, in theory that's how it would work out. But the networks around here that are likely to carry a "Big 10" package is SNY/YES/MSG stuff like that. They air Big East and ACC games every Sunday, basically any game that isn't worth noting. That's the type of deal the Big 10 can expect with the local networks. It'll increase revenue, certainly, but it's not to the degree I think most people are expecting.
You're probably right. I think Maryland will be more of a cash cow for the network in the DC area.
lol@the amount of butthurt if nd loses to usc setting up another sec/sec title game
I have a feeling either 1) Florida loses to Florida St or 2) Pollsters won't put Florida in over Oregon. Imo Oregon would have a better reason to go in, assuming they win out.
And if Georgia somehow beats Alabama, I'll just puke if they represent the SEC in the championship game. They haven't really played like a championship team this year. They've only had 2 ranked games all season and got crushed in one of them and beat a questionable Florida team in the other.
Questionable Florida team? Oh, you mean the 7-0 team that had just beaten LSU and crushed SC. You're fucking delusional. Sorry UT sucks, buddy.
Which 10-1 team would be more deserving if UGA won the SEC championship? Oregon - 3 wins over 7-4 Pac 12 teams and just lost in their first real test. Kstate - crushed by a Baylor team that was 1-5 in Big 12 play.
And beat UT and Kentucky by a total of 12 points. Together, they combine for 0 SEC wins this year.
And ND beat Purdue and Pittsburgh by a total of 6 points. What's your point?
They also beat (4) ranked teams, (2) of which were in the top 10 and (1) was in the top 5. Georgia has one such win (for all categories), so not sure how you stack up the schedules like that.
I have a feeling either 1) Florida loses to Florida St or 2) Pollsters won't put Florida in over Oregon. Imo Oregon would have a better reason to go in, assuming they win out.
And if Georgia somehow beats Alabama, I'll just puke if they represent the SEC in the championship game. They haven't really played like a championship team this year. They've only had 2 ranked games all season and got crushed in one of them and beat a questionable Florida team in the other.
Questionable Florida team? Oh, you mean the 7-0 team that had just beaten LSU and crushed SC. You're quacking delusional. Sorry UT sucks, buddy.
Which 10-1 team would be more deserving if UGA won the SEC championship? Oregon - 3 wins over 7-4 Pac 12 teams and just lost in their first real test. Kstate - crushed by a Baylor team that was 1-5 in Big 12 play.
Yes, very questionable. You realize they were a last minute punt block from possibly losing to Louisiana-Lafayette?? They smashed Bowling Green by 13 whole points. Missouri by 7. Their best win was definitely against LSU, since I consider South Carolina pretty suspect as well. Then entire SEC east is suspect, as they haven't played anyone out of conference and basically missed playing Alabama and 2 out of 3 on playing LSU. We will see where they stand a bit better after this weekend. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for their defense, but like ND, they are far from a complete team. They're a good team, maybe even really good, I just don't think they belong in the NC game.
never thought i would say this... emoney is right. notre dame is not the best team in the country and uga is nowhere near the 3rd best team in the country. there needs to be committee like basketball and there needs to be a 16 team playoff. decide that shit on the field.
never thought i would say this... emoney is right. notre dame is not the best team in the country and uga is nowhere near the 3rd best team in the country. there needs to be committee like basketball and there needs to be a 16 team playoff. decide that shiz on the field.
Clemson would get smoked by Notre Dame.
Everyone see what happened to Oregon when they played a big, fast and physical front seven? That's what an NFL-style defense does. Notice I didn't say NFL-level, because it's not, but they play a similar style and provide similar mismatches to those that NFL defenses pose. Half of college defense is for show, they're traffic cones until the scoring unit comes back on the field. Notre Dame is built around its defense, a novel concept in the Jr. ranks of football, but one that they've ridden to an 11-0 record.
Put Clemson out there. Put Alabama. Put Oregon, Georgia, Kansas State, it doesn't matter. The ND defense dictates the game. 99% of college football is dictated by the offense, but the Notre Dame defense dictates how the game is played.
If you put them on a neutral field with any other NCAA team they can beat them. Will they? That's not for us to say, but they could. Anyone trying to say they're "not the best team" is right, because there is no best team. Every team is flawed, but only ND is undefeated (except OSU who doesn't count). Until that changes, they're the best in the country.
never thought i would say this... emoney is right. notre dame is not the best team in the country and uga is nowhere near the 3rd best team in the country. there needs to be committee like basketball and there needs to be a 16 team playoff. decide that shiz on the field.
Clemson would get smoked by Notre Dame.
Everyone see what happened to Oregon when they played a big, fast and physical front seven? That's what an NFL-style defense does. Notice I didn't say NFL-level, because it's not, but they play a similar style and provide similar mismatches to those that NFL defenses pose. Half of college defense is for show, they're traffic cones until the scoring unit comes back on the field. Notre Dame is built around its defense, a novel concept in the Jr. ranks of football, but one that they've ridden to an 11-0 record.
Put Clemson out there. Put Alabama. Put Oregon, Georgia, Kansas State, it doesn't matter. The ND defense dictates the game. 99% of college football is dictated by the offense, but the Notre Dame defense dictates how the game is played.
If you put them on a neutral field with any other NCAA team they can beat them. Will they? That's not for us to say, but they could. Anyone trying to say they're "not the best team" is right, because there is no best team. Every team is flawed, but only ND is undefeated (except OSU who doesn't count). Until that changes, they're the best in the country.
Suck it Sang.
well we will never know because of this flawed system. i believe notre dame is a good team but they are not a clear number one by any means. i think any team in the top 12 could beat them on any given day. lately there has been one or two clearly dominant teams and this year there isn't one. but the thing that is even more out of whack than that is uga having a chance to play for the championship if they beat bama. they are not that good.