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Also, if I had to pick a region I love the most, I love the Italians, pretty much anywhere up and down the coast. I do not hate any region, including Napa, but I find Napa and French you are paying for the name sometimes, and that Australia and Chile do not make really great wines, but sometimes pretend like they do. *You can find a few in the mix, just be careful)
I just can't bring myself to drink wine from a box. I have had the bota box, and that in combination with a few other things (Wife being pregnant, moving, etc) drove me to liquor. I think it may be left over from college when I use to go around parties with a bag of franzia strapped to my back and finish it, but not remember how.
Don't hate, but I think I may be the board wine snob. :-(
Mark West is OK though. Pinot is the hardest to get right because it is so delicate. One of the best bottles I ever had was a Napa Pinot, so I can never hate Pinot, but it is not may favorite.
You would be very surprised at what great wines they have available in boxes now. Look it up ;D
How much I pour depends on how nice the wine is. Really nice = smaller pours into larger glasses. Not as nice = larger pours into cheaper glasses. And some wine I will open the night before I want to drink it. Either way, the box measure is not always an accurate measure. Compare it to bottle size and you should be ok.
Also, if I had to pick a region I love the most, I love the Italians, pretty much anywhere up and down the coast. I do not hate any region, including Napa, but I find Napa and French you are paying for the name sometimes, and that Australia and Chile do not make really great wines, but sometimes pretend like they do. *You can find a few in the mix, just be careful)
Again, I don't pay close attention to what I drink, but I find that I usually enjoy South American red wines- the flavor profiles tend to be exactly what I like.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I just can't bring myself to drink wine from a box. I have had the bota box, and that in combination with a few other things (Wife being pregnant, moving, etc) drove me to liquor. I think it may be left over from college when I use to go around parties with a bag of franzia strapped to my back and finish it, but not remember how.
Don't hate, but I think I may be the board wine snob. :-(
Mark West is OK though. Pinot is the hardest to get right because it is so delicate. One of the best bottles I ever had was a Napa Pinot, so I can never hate Pinot, but it is not may favorite.
You would be very surprised at what great wines they have available in boxes now. Look it up ;D
Yes! When I lived in France, I went to a bunch of wineries and you'd be surprised about how many of them offered box and box-esque versions of their wine. This was 2005 and most of them did not sell the box version in stores, but they had them!
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
You would be very surprised at what great wines they have available in boxes now. Look it up ;D
I have and I follow wine very closely. I go to 1-2 wine tastings a week, and read about it a few times a week as well.
Twist tops are ok with me, but as I said, I may be one of the board wine snobs. So take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Too many headaches from bad wine, so now I look for better stuff.
And Bonzai, I am going to disagree on the tannins. Tannins mean the wine is either A) too young and not at full maturity or B) needed more time to breath. Some are good, but that dryness is what gives you the headache.
I just can't bring myself to drink wine from a box. Don't hate, but I think I may be the board wine snob. :-(
You're not alone. I only drink boxed wine in times of absolute necessity. To me, it's the PBR of wine: cheap, readily available, and effective in quantity! I've had boxed wine exactly 3 times, all of which involved a concert or festival. And no PBR has touched my lips since Clinton was in office. You can be the board's wine snob; I've got the beer snobbery covered!
I just can't bring myself to drink wine from a box. Don't hate, but I think I may be the board wine snob. :-(
You're not alone. I only drink boxed wine in times of absolute necessity. To me, it's the PBR of wine: cheap, readily available, and effective in quantity! I've had boxed wine exactly 3 times, all of which involved a concert or festival. And no PBR has touched my lips since Clinton was in office. You can be the board's wine snob; I've got the beer snobbery covered!
I knew I loved you for a reason Holls! Here is another one!
This girl right here has found that drinking WINE in LINE at shows is the best way for myself to enjoy a happy buzz throughout a full set. I had these guys as Line Wine at the Jack WHite show with Holls. BRILLIANT time at that show.
Bota babes FTW.
YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Also, that was the night my avatar pic was taken. When I chose to store my ticket in my mouth. I loooooooove line wine.
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And Bonzai, I am going to disagree on the tannins. Tannins mean the wine is either A) too young and not at full maturity or B) needed more time to breath. Some are good, but that dryness is what gives you the headache.
I wasn't arguing that they are the best wines. They are simply the wines that I like. I don't particularly enjoy the smoother reds.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
And Bonzai, I am going to disagree on the tannins. Tannins mean the wine is either A) too young and not at full maturity or B) needed more time to breath. Some are good, but that dryness is what gives you the headache.
I wasn't arguing that they are the best wines. They are simply the wines that I like. I don't particularly enjoy the smoother reds.
A tannin discussion would take too long for me to post right now. Long story short, tannins are the preservatives for the wine. If that is they type you like, you want to drink wines that need to age for a very long time, but drink them young before the age. I would recommend Syrahs (More alcohol too which should be a plus) (Also do nto confuse this with petite syrah). Also, anything italian would work, but particularly your Brunellos, Shirazes, and the most tannic wine, nebbiolos.
I pick my wines solely on the picture on the bottle. This has failed me about 50% of the time.
Somebody gave me a bottle of this for my b'day last year; I think they used your approach! It's an Argentinian Malbec/Syrah blend...maybe one day I'll crack it open and see if its flavor is as amusing as its name.
This is why my wife has her own section of wine in our house. I refuse to drink some of what she buys.
I'm the opposite. Nancy knows way more about wine than I do and always makes sure we have an interesting variety on hand.
Oh my wife knows about wine to a certain extent, but she is hammered by glass 2 (cheap date, I know) and thats when the knowledge goes out the window and it becomes what does the label look like.
I pick my wines solely on the picture on the bottle. This has failed me about 50% of the time.
Somebody gave me a bottle of this for my b'day last year; I think they used your approach! It's an Argentinian Malbec/Syrah blend...maybe one day I'll crack it open and see if its flavor is as amusing as its name.
What am I drinking: Kris Pinot Grigio 2010 Price : $11-15 Score: 86-90
This is a house favorite for Pinot Grigio. It is really nice and light, and pairs really well with pork, (tonight's dinner) fish or chicken. Very crisp, clean citrus after taste, and a very accessable entry point into Italian Whites. It is a northern Italian wine, specifically designed for import into the US to introduce people who only know American or French Whites to the true taste of a pinot grigio.
What Im Drinking: Chalone Vineyard 2007 Syrah Price: $18-28 Rating: 87-92
Talking about tannins earlier put me in the mood, so I opened this bottle up. Great wine. Very well balanced. Very heavy. Even after being open for 9 hours, it still is very dry. Dark fruit and an almost buttery finish. Bonzai, this one is for you, I promise. It is a limited production item, but I think they have an 09 as well. Chalone only releases wine from grapes they feel are of superior quality. Otherwise they sell the grapes. The Winery is located in Monterrey Country, California.
"We accept that some bottles will cost five or 10 times as much as the $15 wine we pick up for dinner. We may think we know the difference, but blind taste tests show we often don’t. Wine experts are far from immune to such trickery.
A few years ago, researchers asked a similar question: do we dislike what we expect to dislike? They secretly dosed beer with a few drops of vinegar and served it to a group of unsuspecting patrons at a campus bar in a taste test with regular beer. Surprisingly, drinkers preferred the vinegar beer to the unadulterated lager by a margin of three to two.
...the pleasure derived from expectations is real, as researchers at Caltech and Stanford demonstrated. For a 2008 study, they asked people to taste five Cabernets while in a brain scanner.
The subjects were told the per-bottle price of each wine before tasting ($5, $10, $35, $45, and $90) and rated how much they liked it. In reality, there were only three wines — the $5 wine also posed as the $45 wine, while the $90 wine also slummed as the $10 wine.
Overall, the more expensive a wine supposedly was, the more people liked it. Subjects enjoyed the $90 wine the most, but not when they tasted it in the guise of a $10 bottle. In that case, they liked it a lot less than they did the $5 wine in its $45 disguise."
However, I have had some expensive wines that were extremely good. It is similar to anything else. For example, my mom makes a fantastic homemade mac and cheese. My youngest brother has lived at college the last 5 years and never really had it all that much before then. He likes Kraft more, even though Kraft is overprocessed crap. Another example is the people who go to McDonalds every week. They become accustomed to it.
You cant jump from a $15 to a $100 wine. You have no frame of reference, hence the study you quoted. You CAN learn to distinguish between good and bad wine (not expensive vs. inexpensive) over time, with the right exposure and a decent guide. Price is not the best reference. Case in point, I had a fairly expensive wine tonight that tasted like crap.
But, as I said before, find what you like, drink that, and try new things so you can learn more about why you like the wines you do.
I've been on a Cotes du Rhone binge, as of late, but I'm preparing myself for the amazeballness of MORGON season.
I'm having d'Andezon right now. It's a cheapy (<$15) CdR from my boy, Eric Solomon, but it is solid as a rock. Many of the basic CdRs are <$20 and magically delish. Syrah + grenache + delicious minerally soils = tingling goodness. Like a mouth full of river pebbles, dark berry jam and the most perfect piece of toast you've ever had... *bliss*
I went through a Cotes Du Rhone phase a few years ago, and it was awesome. I have a few downstairs that I may need to revisit...
Ever since the Chalone the other night, I have been on a petite syrah kick. Tonight it was an 07 Rosenblum Pickett Road Petite. Nothing great to right home about. Chalone was much better despite being about half the price ($38 for the Pickett Road, $20ish for the Chalone). Now on to the 09 Estancia Meritage Reserve. Never fails me. I love the stuff. (~$30-40 / bottle)
I've been on a Cotes du Rhone binge, as of late...I'm having d'Andezon right now. It's a cheapy (<$15)... Like a mouth full of river pebbles
Mouth full of river pebbles, huh? Girl, how did you know that's EXACTLY what I've been looking for? It's hard to get that kind of selling point from Wine Spectator.