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My name is Jack and I tend to hold your opinion in really high esteem. I'm applying for a plethora of internships right now, and I'd love some input. I'm looking for something in music or entertainment of some kind. I have at least some level of experience with journalism, marketing, production, booking, performance, logistics, organization, and whatever else. I'm exploring a bunch of spots throughout different cities and right now I'm looking specifically at NYC, San Francisco, Boston or LA.
Basically, people who have lived there, what's your opinion? I'm a pretty outgoing person with interests in most things. Hit me with your favorite cities, or any place you think it'd be rad to live at 21. Go.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Feb 5, 2013 9:29:40 GMT -5
Hi Jack,
My name is the Horn and I like to have opinions.
First some general stuff: Are you graduating and moving permanently or just looking for a summer gig? If it's just for the summer I encourage you to expand your search to Nashville, there are a lot of opportunities in the Biz there, particularly at the PROs, and it's much cheaper. Also what exactly is your experience? You may also what to consider doing media policy type work in DC (that was my first job) or getting an internship at a festival (rather than volunteering). I've had very good experiences with both.
As to your specific question, obviously it's tough to say. Each city has a different slice of the industry, so the work and the people are all a little different. I actually really dislike Boston, but I know you're from there so I won't say anything else.
Email me your resume and I'm happy to talk further.
Juggs here. Have you considered Hartford, Connecticut? Also known as "New England's Rising Star," our last mayor went to prison for corruption, the city basically shuts down at 5:00 p.m. every day as everyone flees for the suburbs, and on the weekends the streets are packed full of drunk bros hitting the bars. Oh, and we've only had like three dozen gun murders so far this year, so things are looking up!
We've only had like 42 so far this year. And Chicago has like 30x more people. I think Hartford is the way to go!
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Out of my general appreciation for the cities you listed (involves no knowledge of the work opportunities and other non-superficial reasons): 1. San Fran 2. Boston 3. NYC 4. LA
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
My name is Bonzai and I live in one of the suburbs outside of New England's Rising Star that Juggs mentioned. I love happy hour and my mind is forever in the gutter. Nice to meet you. **Insert previous post here**
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
this absolutely started out as a existential drunkard thread, but now that i have you here...
How much stuff should I put on a resume for this? Like amongst the things I think might be necessary information: I've worked two radio DJ gigs (top 40 & oldies), I've written for a number of online publications (including CoS & THE Tactile Tracks), I worked for an NPR affiliate for a time with a number (read: like maybe 4) stories getting picked up nationally, I currently work for a local booking & promotions company that deals with a bunch of mid-level artists. Written for the college paper and also spent time being a Marketing Manager at my local Jimmy Johns. I also do various volunteer work with local groups.
I have a resume and a cover letter but it doesn't include all that other stuff. How much of that should I actually put in though? Isn't it a pretty constant rule that the longer the resume, the emptier it actually is or whatever?
And I've sort of been considering Louisville or Nashville too. The only thing is I've spent 100% of my life so far living in the midwest and I kind of like the idea of living somewhere else. I also sort of hate Chicago, just for the record.
What kind of media policy stuff did you do Horn? My major is actually Econ / Poli Sci w/ a minor in Telecommunications so DC might have jobs with a nice blend of what I offer.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 5, 2013 15:18:04 GMT -5
I've been meaning to get out to NYC somewhere (Queens, Brooklyn, etc.) for the past year or two but have no idea where to begin for finding a job in the city. Definitely can't move there and stay at my current employer.
Interested to see how this works out for you Jackson. I'll be keeping up with this thread.
and I feel about most garb EDM the way I feel about artists like 2 Chainz. Like its not in my itunes, don't go out of my way to listen to it, but if it comes on at a party or a bar and I'm even slightly drunk it turns into my absolute jam.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 5, 2013 15:32:20 GMT -5
If you don't mind me asking ITM, what do you job-wise / where are you located / how did you get to where you are?
Long story short: I graduated college in 2008. My girlfriend at the time moved 8 hours away from home to live with me in the basement apartment my parents built/redid for us. Paying rent (but less than I would in a "real world" apartment).
I got my job shortly after graduation....right before Roo (I was working a bullsh*t job to make some spend cash and quit that during my Roo trip). I work as a web and graphic designer for an internet company that has a few businesses/websites. Basically updating their sites with new products, working on images and adding information.....stuff like that.
Some point after a few years of dating that girlfriend decided she wanted to be a whore so I got left behind and went through a bout of "no motivation to do anything ever". I've stuck with this job since graduating but it's located in the middle of Long Island (close to my current residence). It's an hour drive/train ride to NYC and Brooklyn which is nice but if I was living my dream at the moment it'd be doing something in NYC (possibly related to media/music) and living near a subway.
Just haven't applied myself or gotten motivated to find a new job. Half of it is fear. I've got issues with not wanting to make mistakes since the whore messed up my mind/confidence quite a bit.
That seems long...but there's a LOT more to it lol. That's the condensed version.
So in short(er): Web/Graphic Design in Long Island NY. Got the job out of college but would prefer to move to NYC for shows/entertainment and since a few of my friends now reside there.
Well, i think you're the man and if (when) I make it as a notable musician, imma hire you exclusively to do my website and graphic design things. That's the one area of entertainment I really don't have a clue in.
I tend to think of New York, Nashville, and Austin as the three kings of live music.
New York: By far offers the most opportunities in both number and diversity but cutthroat as hell and the hardest to make any sort of impression at all. If you do make it here, though, well, you know what Sinatra said.
Nashville: Still a music mecca, but very saturated and relatively limited stylistically.
Austin: The coffeeshop-and-concert little bro is all grown up and making a name for himself. As weird as promised, for better or worse, depending on your tastes. A nice middleground between the two above, with more diversity than Nashville and more acceptance than New York.
LA: Scene to be seen, in my opinion.
No clue on Boston. Chicago is trying and has taken big swings with Lolla and P4k, but there just isn't the same scale or diversity as some of the other major players.
hmmmm, hadn't really considered Austin but it sounds pretty dope too. I want it to be known that a big part of this is me going to Google Images and searching these cities and judging by the night skylines.
I tend to think of New York, Nashville, and Austin as the three kings of live music.
New York: By far offers the most opportunities in both number and diversity but cutthroat as hell and the hardest to make any sort of impression at all. If you do make it here, though, well, you know what Sinatra said.
Nashville: Still a music mecca, but very saturated and relatively limited stylistically.
Austin: The coffeeshop-and-concert little bro is all grown up and making a name for himself. As weird as promised, for better or worse, depending on your tastes. A nice middleground between the two above, with more diversity than Nashville and more acceptance than New York.
LA: Scene to be seen, in my opinion.
No clue on Boston. Chicago is trying and has taken big swings with Lolla and P4k, but there just isn't the same scale or diversity as some of the other major players.
Hi Jack,
I'm replying to Godzilla. Chicago gets basically everyone who is going to tour the US. There are way more fests than just Lolla and P4k, but the fests can leave the small venue scene a little thin over summers. Unfortunately, I dont see a great local scene. I could be wrong, but it seems like for a city this size there just arent that many local bands making good and getting large.
I tend to think of New York, Nashville, and Austin as the three kings of live music.
New York: By far offers the most opportunities in both number and diversity but cutthroat as hell and the hardest to make any sort of impression at all. If you do make it here, though, well, you know what Sinatra said.
Nashville: Still a music mecca, but very saturated and relatively limited stylistically.
Austin: The coffeeshop-and-concert little bro is all grown up and making a name for himself. As weird as promised, for better or worse, depending on your tastes. A nice middleground between the two above, with more diversity than Nashville and more acceptance than New York.
LA: Scene to be seen, in my opinion.
No clue on Boston. Chicago is trying and has taken big swings with Lolla and P4k, but there just isn't the same scale or diversity as some of the other major players.
Hi Jack,
I'm replying to Godzilla. Chicago gets basically everyone who is going to tour the US. There are way more fests than just Lolla and P4k, but the fests can leave the small venue scene a little thin over summers. Unfortunately, I dont see a great local scene. I could be wrong, but it seems like for a city this size there just arent that many local bands making good and getting large.
Yours truly,
Chico
thanks Chico. I'm actually really familiar with Chicago and the music scene. I grew up like 90 minutes south and 4 of my best friends live there now. I don't mind visiting, but I don't really wanna live there for a whole summer.
Post by billypilgrim on Feb 5, 2013 17:07:45 GMT -5
Hi Jack,
I'm Billy. I commend you for letting strangers on the internet influence your career decisions. But I worry that you're just considering the cities that everyone who's interested in the entertainment industry thinks about. So to expand the scope of your inquiry, I suggest you consider Islamabad, Pakistan. The local Western music scene may be lacking, the threat of terrorist violence is always present, and -- assuming you don't speak Pashto -- you'll have very little ability to communicate with anyone. But the excessive heat is a dry excessive heat and you'll probably have a renewed appreciation for the Midwest if you make it back alive.
Remember the wise words of the Super Bowl Audi commercial: "Bravery. It's what defines us."
Before you drag out your flak jacket and passport, please consider Nashville. No, we are not "weird" like Austin. WTF does that mean anyway? And no, we are not big and pretentious, like NYC. But we do know a good tune when we hear one. And we love nothing more than helping young musicians make it big, so we can stomp them into the ground and call them a sell out when they do. (think KOL).
I'm garageland. I personally couldn't imagine any other answer than NYC. I also don't work in music, like, at all. I just love the randomness of it and how I never got bored there.