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Post by crazykittensmile on Mar 28, 2008 20:34:57 GMT -5
albarton said:
How long does water typically stay cold in one of those sigg bottles?
not that long... they have insulators that can go on the outside of the bottle, i haven't tried one, but without that it'll stay cold a little longer than a plastic bottle, but not much!
at the (air conditioned) gym, my water is cool but not cold within an hour... so in the scorching hot TN sun, it'd take about 5 minutes to be room temp i'd imagine
it stays wet though!
also.... it's TASTELESS (in the good way), water has never tasted so crisp and yummy as it does in my sigg bottle! it lends absolutely no flavor to the water inside it. which i totally dig.
Post by crazykittensmile on Mar 29, 2008 16:00:04 GMT -5
i don't have one of those cleaning kits and i clean it just fine. the key is to not let it get super duper funky in the first place!
i clean mine every single day that i use it, i vigorously swish it with scalding hot soapy water, rinse and repeat a couple times, then let it air dry. and then store it without the lid on to keep it dry inside.
hasn't killed me yet!
at bonnaroo i'll probably just give it a little swish in the morning before i refill it.
Post by electraonyx on Mar 31, 2008 10:52:14 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to attempt to bring a little leverage to the humane/inhumane argument going on. While I understand those of you who disagree with animal testing and I agree with you when it comes to cosmetics and things of that nature, here's my leverage: My wife has a MS...she has a lesion on her cervical spine which without treatment could spread so that she wouldn't be able to walk or lose other functions. Until the mid to late 90's there was NO treatment for MS. The diagnosis was like be sentenced to a wheelchair and life long disability. Because of the new medication which was certainly tested on animals people with MS can now WALK and lead full lives. My wife used to have 2 lesions, after one year the one on her brain disappeared. Next weekend she will run the Cherry Blossom 10-miler. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind...I just wanted to give you a different viewpoint to consider.
Don't get me wrong - I am not opposed to all animal testing. When it comes down to stuff like what you posted - I am all for it. BUT when it comes down to cosmetics, bath products and stuff like that - I don't see the need.
Post by electraonyx on Mar 31, 2008 15:41:22 GMT -5
Totally agree with you Meg. And that's just the thing...Nalgene makes a lot of (good quality) scientific products, I've worked in a few labs, so it's hard to say to whom they market these products etc. I was curious how people would respond to the "other" side of animal testing.
Post by spacewrangler on Mar 31, 2008 22:46:32 GMT -5
hollyanne0724 said:
Ugh, i am for sure recycling my Nalgene asap!!! That makes my stomach turn!
What will this accomplish? You have already purchased the Nalgene, so you won't hurt them a bit. If you replace your bottle with another brand you will be using more resources and energy to make the replacement. Better to obscure the Nalgene brand of your bottle (as to not "advertise" for them) and get the full life out of the resources used to manufacture it before recycling. Consumer products are a very small part of what Nalgene does.
Post by strumntheguitar on Mar 31, 2008 22:51:38 GMT -5
spacewrangler said:
hollyanne0724 said:
Ugh, i am for sure recycling my Nalgene asap!!! That makes my stomach turn!
What will this accomplish? You have already purchased the Nalgene, so you won't hurt them a bit. If you replace your bottle with another brand you will be using more resources and energy to make the replacement. Better to obscure the Nalgene brand of your bottle (as to not "advertise" for them) and get the full life out of the resources used to manufacture it before recycling. Consumer products are a very small part of what Nalgene does.
yes.
I would probably just find a sticker of like a No Parking sign or something and cut out the red circle/slash and put it over the nalgene label on the bottle.
But then again, I'm kinda broke and wouldn't wanna drop the money on a new bottle
Post by papernapkin on May 8, 2008 19:04:44 GMT -5
Can you only get a SIGG from online or can I go to REI or another camping store to pick one up? I for one am using my CamelBak this year but I always carry a Nalgene with me everyday but would rather switch to something lighter and less bulky.
Post by tentseasurfer on May 8, 2008 21:32:13 GMT -5
I think that this is a great post. I spent a lot of my time picking up TONS of water bottles and recycling them last year. It was more as a convenience to the next person walking my path than an eco mission. I would get so bummed out sliding out on a smashed gallon water jug or a smaller bottle...so finally I just went on a mission picking them up as they fell in my path. It was impressive how quickly things got cleaned up when everyone attacked an area. I'm pretty happy Zephyrhills is making thinner plastic bottles(it's a start, plus they are quickly crushed down).
As far as Nalgene and their bunny shackles....F* those Anne Coulters!
Can I ask a real question though? I am 100% for clean fuel/recycling ect. ...but am I the only one suspect of power hungry politicians telling me I need to buy "carbon credits" to offset my "carbon footprint" when they hopscotch around the globe on private jets and have stock in oil companies? Many scientists have come forward saying the data on global warming has been tweaked to fit the agenda. There has been tons of suppressed data and studies that don't fit the desired outcome on global warming. I question how much of global warming is simply normal earth change and how much can directly be pinned on humans. It's obvious we need to change our ways as a species...but how much of our eco unfriendliness has been directly linked to power players in politics/industry suppressing free energy/clean feuls. Who killed the electric car? Why is new,cheap clean energy suppressed? Am I wrong for being slightly skeptical of this sudden shift in industry/politics? Could it be that they have merely worked out the channels for capitalizing on "green tech" as much as they have on fossil fuel consumption?
Please don't smite me for my question, I want to reiterate that I am ALL FOR clean energy and living in harmony with nature as much as humanly possible, but I am also aware of the simple yet impressively poweful political strategy of problem/reaction/solution(google it if you've never heard of it) Present a problem....wait for the reaction....offer your agenda fitting solution. I believe that 99% of environmentally conscious people out there are truly doing it for the greater good of humanity and Mother Earth. It's the 1% who will use it for further erosion of civil rights and a means to oppress ..(i.e. carbon taxes, energy monitoring ect.) that scare the hell out of me. Am I alone in this? Just throwing that out there.
There are water stations. So the answer is yes you can fill it up with fresh water. Now that doesn't mean it's the best tasting water. I don't remember it tasting sulpherous but that's what everyone says. I'm sure it's just well water.
Can you only get a SIGG from online or can I go to REI or another camping store to pick one up? I for one am using my CamelBak this year but I always carry a Nalgene with me everyday but would rather switch to something lighter and less bulky.
This thread seems to be turning into a SIGG commercial.
Anyways, I'm not getting rid of my Nalgene bottle because of their practices. Will I buy another bottle from them, probably not, but I'm getting full life out of it first.
I must say that I'm getting really sick of this eco-fashion show trend that's taking place. From Nalgene to SIGG, NINE WEST marketing that it's "sexy to be eco", and all the new "Eco friendly" new houses that are being build now. It's becoming more of a marketing tool than anything else at this point.
Being eco friendly is now becoming the next thing thats needed to "keep up with the Joneses". The new "in" thing to brag about at your next martini party is how you just bought your $600,000 green home, with a two car garage to park your hummers.
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Yeah, but they're so much better for the environment! I don't understand why anyone wouldn't drive one! <proceeds to bend over to smell his own farts>
And getting rid of your Nalgene bottle will do nothing except create more waste. Had I known about these tests beforehand, I probably wouldn't have bought a Nalgene, but I did, and I'm just going to deal with it.
This thread seems to be turning into a SIGG commercial.
Anyways, I'm not getting rid of my Nalgene bottle because of their practices. Will I buy another bottle from them, probably not, but I'm getting full life out of it first.
I must say that I'm getting really sick of this eco-fashion show trend that's taking place. From Nalgene to SIGG, NINE WEST marketing that it's "sexy to be eco", and all the new "Eco friendly" new houses that are being build now. It's becoming more of a marketing tool than anything else at this point.
Being eco friendly is now becoming the next thing thats needed to "keep up with the Joneses". The new "in" thing to brag about at your next martini party is how you just bought your $600,000 green home, with a two car garage to park your hummers.
You should get rid of the Nalgene bottle not because of their unethical practices - but because the bottles contain BPA.