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Yes I do that is my new campaign on here lets make a democratic verbal free for all.
So it will just be like American democracy, were a lot of people vote for something but are totally ignorant of the situation at hand? That sounds grand! Your lack of knowledge of the situation would lead me to not vote; if I didn't have the actually history of having to deal with all this fucking bullshit.
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the fact that this was all settled so quickly It was not settled quickly. It has been in discussion for quite some time.
sorry if this poll hurts Druid Oh don't mind me. I'm pretty resilient.
11 who dont give a shiz so basically most people think this is a non event Eleven people wish this would all go away. I concur. I don't think they are siding with you or against you.
Yes I do that is my new campaign on here lets make a democratic verbal free for all
Post by cursedlono on Apr 28, 2013 11:59:53 GMT -5
They will be when my campaign on on here is over I think a lot of people will be down for this mods get a complaint it is serious ban but they have to give up the ban let the person defend themselves and then have a vote amongst all members of the board at a set time and date and then everybody abides by the descion and it has to be a real offense no Jedi mind trick accusations and witch burning trials. But real offenses
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I am pretty new to this board, and it's been my only experience with a forum of any kind, so I can't speak from any wide range of prior knowledge. and as such, maybe it's not smart for me to jump into such a polarizing debate, but I just wanted to say that I have had a wonderful experience on this board, and I think the mods do a great job.
I feel like most of the people who post on here regulate themselves and each other fairly well (like when I posted about something being "hipster" and realized it might have been taken the wrong way, so I immediately apologized). it's true that it's hard to determine tone in written words, but it's equally true that some people use the informality of online discourse to test out behavior they would never engage in face-to-face. I don't know sproat and had no interaction with him, and I've never ventured into chat, but I am glad the mods made a difficult decision to act to curb what sounds like dangerous and threatening behavior. leading anyone or encouraging them to act in a way that required EMS is not ever funny and should never be tolerated, IMO, on or off this board. same goes for tracking down someone's information- that's a violation with or without the intent to cause that person harm.
in a lot of ways, I think this forum could easily become an exclusive community that is not welcoming of newcomers; however, when I joined I was immediately welcomed and I now look forward to new posts/threads. I love checking in, and I think if there was no regulation this board would probably devolve into something I would no longer enjoy. the mods are people too and I'm sure they don't like having to police people, but they do it for the good of the community.
again, just my opinion, admittedly without knowing any of the specifics of this situation aside from what's been posted here. I just kept seeing all the posts in this thread, and wanted to chime in. feel free to disagree with me, but I do hope this doesn't result in a change of policy. (and I also hope this post doesn't result in a lot of hate my way )
real offenses What constitutes a real offense? For one person it is one thing, for another it is something entirely different. You will never get a consensus on this. Is it threatening others in PM's? Threatening others on FB? Threatening someones employ? How much does one take before one says enough?
And never underestimate the power of the mind trick games. They are dangerous. Sometimes as dangerous as true physical violence. We all know the power of the mind. The power of manipulation. The devious and yet subtle way to sway others to think as you do, feel as you do, believe what you believe. One has to be so very careful.
Ohhh, how is this vauge? How many posts have you made that have been deleted by a mod? Surely you have some idea what I'm talking about.
Either way, Sproat claimed responsibility for it and said it was a combined effort by him, you and another. So if he was lying, maybe you should think of what side you are on here? If he wasn't, then maybe you should back the Quack off and stay out of this topic of conversation. Either way, your post did happen. I know it happened. Others know it happened. Mods know it happened.
Hope that isn't vague???? I can go into more detail.
Thank you for the PM. You are referring to a post that I made when the Inforoo Webcam Chat Thread was blowing up with back and forth between EAP and Srpoat. My single post that was deleted (to my knowledge) read almost verbatim: "Sproat and EAP used to date, right?"
There was no combined effort. I thought of that witty remark all on my own. I'm confused what the big deal is. Not exactly sure why the mods had to delete the post, but it was rather inconsequential, so I didn't argue with them over it. It was so inconsequential that I needed you to remind me what you're talking about, because it actually slipped my memory.
I'm sorry, what point are you trying to prove again?
Are you really being serious?????
You PMed me about this particular point, for starters. You know the one that you had no clue of what I was referring to. Cleary you did, you brought it up in the thread soon enough.
You are welcome for the response. Thanks for not acknowledging anything I've said directly related to you after what caused you to PM me. Also, thinks for bringing up specific names because, you know, there is a reason a lot of people aren't speaking up. They want nothing to do with this and for good, founded quacking reasons.
and you made no response to my main point. Either you were in on just one of the many of examples of Sproat trying to cause trouble or he was lying about you being about of it. So take your pick, dude. That's what he told me. If he is lying about it, then how does that make you feel? You should be a little freaked out. I would be. But you seem to be going a different route, which is confusing and unsettling.
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I try not to pick sides when I don't have any direct personal knowledge of a situation (which plays hell with my decision-making process in election years, but that's another topic.)
But I do have roughly three years' experience as the admin (= global mod) of a board with verging on 40,000 members, so I'll say this: I think it's impossible to run an internet forum like a direct democracy, and there's no way to declare and enforce a one-size-fits-all ban standard. Ultimately the members either have to trust the staff or split.
I think that to understand why this is you have to have done it, but the way I see things:
Mods set the tone for a board; they're entrusted by board owners with the job of ensuring the content is high-quality. To do this the mods have to present a united front, even when they privately disagree behind the scenes on how that quality standard ought to be defined...which is the main reason for a mods-only subforum, so they can hash policy out before implementing it. On a good board you're not ever going to see mods squabbling with each other in public, nor are you going to be able to publicly play one off against another. They close ranks and stand together.
So mods have to trust each other's judgment. That means different things in different places, but on the board I admin for, the ban process for longtime members consists of a posting a thread in the mod forum: "So-and-so is getting to be a pain in my ass because he/she's doing X, Y, and Z, and I'm about to ban him/her unless somebody waves me off." And that seems to work just fine -- the mods trust each other, and if so-and-so is indeed getting to be a pain in the staff's ass, then it's a good bet that he/she is getting to be a pain in the donkeys of a fair slice of the members, too.
Sure, the ban will get questioned by the members, but again, the mods set the tone for the board, and if in the mods' judgment the board is better off without that troublesome member, then they're probably OK with some "collateral" damage where a few members feel slighted/offended/whatever and drift away. The staff doesn't like to see that kind of thing, but it happens as a natural consequence of maintaining the board quality as they think it should be.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I see going on here, that's pretty much how things operate on Inforoo.
And I'm cool with it.
Edit: donkeys?
Edit edit: not trying to speak for the Inforoo staff here. Speaking solely for myself.
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I know what you did last summer, GF. And I'm telling everyone about it in PMs. I'll still be doing it years from now, even through I don't know you in IRL. Not only that, I'll secretly try to talk people into fighting with you and disliking you. Because you know, that's totally normal behavior. Especially in 2015, when I still have a right to be pissed at your jerk post of a vid with cute animals.
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Post by cursedlono on Apr 28, 2013 13:02:47 GMT -5
I am not offended and I am certainly not leaving change begins from within and that is why I am sticking around for redemption it might make crazy or wrong but I have several people that have said so there are votes being cast and there is a will and people that want change because what we have right now is not cutting it. I love this board and everybody on it and that is why I will continue on because someday it might be you or you that gets their head on a chopping block for say something you said in a drunken rambling thread late one night a small slip of the toungue and someone gets offended and then boom you are out you never hurt anyone etc. just some persons perception of hurt however it may be.
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Post by Grizzly with a Sword on Apr 28, 2013 13:08:28 GMT -5
Guys I'm new here and have never been a part of this but from a third party perspective it's time to lock this shiz up (in terms of the fighting going no where, not the actual thread). This is running in circles at best and between gifs, vids, passive aggressive comments, this isn't going anywhere quickly. Let's cut the losses here before no one wants to be around each other because the fact of the matter is that a lot of you guys feel burned by this one way or the other and that is rightfully so. This board has a special connection in terms of that we will all see each other at least 1 time a year which essentially doesn't happen on most boards which in my eyes is a pretty big deal.
It happened that's it. Move on from here and if you all really want to discuss further proceedings on how something like this should be handled that should be for the next time and dealt with away from the preceding incident because emotions are flying in here like crazy. You guys are great people and I have never been an internet poster before mostly lurker. However, you guys are all welcoming and great people so I'm sticking around. Things happened that I have little knowledge of but it appears each party has info that they feel the other doesn't. Which in a situation like that even when/if details ever came out on it there will still be two sides to the same experience and it will be back on the same thing.
Love each other. Enjoy each other. Be a family, and part of that is arguing and complaining to each other, which is okay and appropriate because nothing is perfect, but still love at the end of the day. Now is the time to get back to loving at the end of the day because the conversation between all of the threads related to this particular topic have led to absolutely nothing beneficial other than playing a game of point, counter-point that has led to a pattern of conversation that has led to no result.
I think yall are great and if I'm out of line saying this, it's okay, it really is okay, to let me know because at the end of the day you guys are still great and welcoming people that in a short time, I have felt a part of.
I love how you don't even make a full response to what I'm pointing out but whatever. You just shift and move around it.
I, for one, wouldn't like knowing my name was brought in the manipulation of other people. So either you just don't care about that or you were in on it, like Sproat said you were. Either way, you need to stay out of this topic. For real.
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Hey, guys. I'm here to post something snarky and then leave the thread again. Everybody else is handling the substance thing just fine, so I don't think anything else is necessary. Just wanted to put it out there in advance.
This has gone from a Sproat thing to a freedom thing I am trying to fix a broken system in real life you get a jury of your peers and not a "system" anything else is just not American
Don't like it here and/or banned well show folks how its done.
Maybe TMI but I got laid today, gonna do it again as soon as I am done typing...others should follow suit. And then if still unhappy please refer to the first line in the post.
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I'm confused what the big deal is. Not exactly sure why the mods had to delete the post, but it was rather inconsequential, so I didn't argue with them over it. It was so inconsequential that I needed you to remind me what you're talking about, because it actually slipped my memory.
I needed that.
