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I feel bad for #3 in this pic. The other defenders appear to just be standing around watching this guy. He can't be all that fast. They could all just gang-tackle him. I'm guessing this is the finish of a goal-line run
I feel bad for #3 in this pic. The other defenders appear to just be standing around watching this guy. He can't be all that fast. They could all just gang-tackle him. I'm guessing this is the finish of a goal-line run
Post by Dave Maynar on Nov 16, 2013 11:03:05 GMT -5
Watching Gameday. With ballots going out now, I will feel bad for anyone who wins the Heisman this year aside from Winston or Manziel because there will be a ton of stories afterward about if Winston and Manziel's off the field issues caused them to drop in the vote counts and if someone else won because of that. I know that would make me feel great if I was the Heisman winner with that king of press.
Watching Gameday. With ballots going out now, I will feel bad for anyone who wins the Heisman this year aside from Winston or Manziel because there will be a ton of stories afterward about if Winston and Manziel's off the field issues caused them to drop in the vote counts and if someone else won because of that. I know that would make me feel great if I was the Heisman winner with that king of press.
Watching Gameday. With ballots going out now, I will feel bad for anyone who wins the Heisman this year aside from Winston or Manziel because there will be a ton of stories afterward about if Winston and Manziel's off the field issues caused them to drop in the vote counts and if someone else won because of that. I know that would make me feel great if I was the Heisman winner with that king of press.
who else is there?
There has been a lot more talk about Petty and McCarron now. I don't know if it is people justifying their switch or if it's like they are looking away from the frontrunners for once and giving other an honest appraisal.
There has been a lot more talk about Petty and McCarron now. I don't know if it is people justifying their switch or if it's like they are looking away from the frontrunners for once and giving other an honest appraisal.
just looked over the stats of the 8 qbs who I think should be in consideration. it's Manziel, not even close. if he doesn't win it, it doesn't matter who does.
There has been a lot more talk about Petty and McCarron now. I don't know if it is people justifying their switch or if it's like they are looking away from the frontrunners for once and giving other an honest appraisal.
just looked over the stats of the 8 qbs who I think should be in consideration. it's Manziel, not even close. if he doesn't win it, it doesn't matter who does.
I appreciate that you looked at it as race between 8 QBs. You're being realistic. Who is on your list? Just curious.
other than the obvious #1 Manziel. let's see if anyone can match the stats with the player(without cheating) the candidates are Winston, Boyd, Petty, McCarron, Mariota, Mannion and Lynch. who should be #2, 3, etc. at this point?
just looked over the stats of the 8 qbs who I think should be in consideration. it's Manziel, not even close. if he doesn't win it, it doesn't matter who does.
I appreciate that you looked at it as race between 8 QBs. You're being realistic. Who is on your list? Just curious.
it's not realistic. the award is going to Manziel or Winston. but since you posted about the possibilty of someone else winning it I looked up the guys with the best stats just to see how they all stack up.
other than the obvious #1 Manziel. let's see if anyone can match the stats with the player(without cheating) the candidates are Winston, Boyd, Petty, McCarron, Mariota, Mannion and Lynch. who should be #2, 3, etc. at this point?
I can't even begin to try and do that. I will say that you need to remember that people vote off of things aside from stats. Like last year with Manziel, Winston gets bonus points because he is a first year starter. Also, Winston is undefeated so far whereas Manziel has dropped a game, and some put a lot of the blame on him with his INTs that game. Lynch and Petty(but Lynch especially) are fighting against that they don't come from a name school. McCarron is fighting against the stigma of all Bama QBs being game managers and the overall talent level on the team. I seriously heard the argument today on Gameday that McCarron has this outstanding supporting cast around him while Manziel has nobody because apparently, Evans is a sh*tty receiver now.
I appreciate that you looked at it as race between 8 QBs. You're being realistic. Who is on your list? Just curious.
it's not realistic. the award is going to Manziel or Winston. but since you posted about the possibilty of someone else winning it I looked up the guys with the best stats just to see how they all stack up.
I meant more that, even if you drew it out to the top 8 players in the race, they're all QBs. You're not one of those crazies who is trying to drop an LB in there or something.
other than the obvious #1 Manziel. let's see if anyone can match the stats with the player(without cheating) the candidates are Winston, Boyd, Petty, McCarron, Mariota, Mannion and Lynch. who should be #2, 3, etc. at this point?
I can't even begin to try and do that. I will say that you need to remember that people vote off of things aside from stats. Like last year with Manziel, Winston gets bonus points because he is a first year starter. Also, Winston is undefeated so far whereas Manziel has dropped a game, and some put a lot of the blame on him with his INTs that game. Lynch and Petty(but Lynch especially) are fighting against that they don't come from a name school. McCarron is fighting against the stigma of all Bama QBs being game managers and the overall talent level on the team. I seriously heard the argument today on Gameday that McCarron has this outstanding supporting cast around him while Manziel has nobody because apparently, Evans is a sh*tty receiver now.
yea I know it's mostly a popularity contest. when you see stats you can't even pick out Winston as the clear #2, because he's not. I even had the perception that he was before I looked at these stats.
Remember when Teddy Bridgewater was supposed to be a Heisman candidate?
he could actually be included in this, forgot about him.
71.4%- 2845- 24- 3
I think it's more that he started the season as not only a candidate but a favorite, but I haven't even heard his name mentioned in weeks despite having good numbers.
he could actually be included in this, forgot about him.
71.4%- 2845- 24- 3
I think it's more that he started the season as not only a candidate but a favorite, but I haven't even heard his name mentioned in weeks despite having good numbers.
I think it's more that he started the season as not only a candidate but a favorite, but I haven't even heard his name mentioned in weeks despite having good numbers.
all because his team lost to a good UCF team.
Yeah, it's amazing how one game will absolutely kill a Heisman campaign. I can understand Mariota's performance against Stanford knocking him down several notches, but Bridgewater went for 341 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs and a 76.3 completition percentage in that UCF game, but his team lost, so f*ck him apparently.