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Pretty sure I've never even heard of Elliott Smith, except perhaps in passing here on the boards.
Same.
Y'all need to fix that shit. You're making custeph sad. File him under artists that unfortunately died right as they were getting ready to get huge. I would venture that almost any singer-songwriter act that has made music in the last ten years would list him as an influence.
Y'all need to fix that shit. You're making custeph sad. File him under artists that unfortunately died right as they were getting ready to get huge. I would venture that almost any singer-songwriter act that has made music in the last ten years would list him as an influence.
I'll try and give him a listen in the next day or two. Any particular place you recommend to start for me?
Honestly, most of the time the singer/songwriter stuff doesn't do a lot for me. The lyrics are the least important part of music for me. So when that's the main focus, it usually doesn't hold me for long. Obvious exceptions, but generally that's what I've found for myself.
Pretty sure I've never even heard of Elliott Smith, except perhaps in passing here on the boards.
Same.
GTFO the both of yas. You each sing the praises of far more obscure acts on here frequently. Elliott Smith was one of the greatest singer-songwriters in modern history. He could speak so profoundly through his guitar with such simple phrases that it makes you simultaneously envious and deeply sympathetic of how naturally it came to him. There was such raw, haunting honesty dripping in every syllable of his voice. If you've not listened to Either/Or by year's end, I may have to unleash my minions to blare it at you à la John Cusack in Say Anything.
Y'all need to fix that shit. You're making custeph sad. File him under artists that unfortunately died right as they were getting ready to get huge. I would venture that almost any singer-songwriter act that has made music in the last ten years would list him as an influence.
I'll try and give him a listen in the next day or two. Any particular place you recommend to start for me?
Honestly, most of the time the singer/songwriter stuff doesn't do a lot for me. The lyrics are the least important part of music for me. So when that's the main focus, it usually doesn't hold me for long. Obvious exceptions, but generally that's what I've found for myself.
That's understandable on the lyrics. I like quality lyrics but they're by no means required for me to enjoy an artist.
As for a starting point, the go to trio is his self-titled, Either/Or and Figure 8. I would think that most any response you get would be some combination from those three. You can see Sleepy already voted for Either/Or.
I'll try and give him a listen in the next day or two. Any particular place you recommend to start for me?
Honestly, most of the time the singer/songwriter stuff doesn't do a lot for me. The lyrics are the least important part of music for me. So when that's the main focus, it usually doesn't hold me for long. Obvious exceptions, but generally that's what I've found for myself.
That's understandable on the lyrics. I like quality lyrics but they're by no means required for me to enjoy an artist.
As for a starting point, the go to trio is his self-titled, Either/Or and Figure 8. I would think that most any response you get would be some combination from those three. You can see Sleepy already voted for Either/Or.
Those other two are very close seconds for me. You are a man of exquisite taste, kind sir.
GTFO the both of yas. You each sing the praises of far more obscure acts on here frequently. Elliott Smith was one of the greatest singer-songwriters in modern history. He could speak so profoundly through his guitar with such simple phrases that it makes you simultaneously envious and deeply sympathetic of how naturally it came to him. There was such raw, haunting honesty dripping in every syllable of his voice. If you've not listened to Either/Or by year's end, I may have to unleash my minions to blare it at you à la John Cusack in Say Anything.
Haha. Honestly being obscure/somewhat popular/mainstream doesn't have much bearing on the chances of whether I've heard it or not. I listen to zero radio, and don't really ever use Spotify or Pandora. My listening habits come out of here, music blogs, and from branching out from bands I know to bands they list as influences, fans of, or affiliated with.
So plenty of weird obscure stuff I know, but rather popular stuff I might be ignorant too.
Add in the fact that I generally don't get a lot from lyrically driven music (didn't really dig Sun Kill Moon), and it's no surprise that I'm not familiar with Elliot Smith. Didn't even know he was dead until your post just now actually.
And growing up, I was the one into music and would show my friends. So if I didn't find it, chances are I didn't really listen to it much.
But I promise to give Either/Or a listen in the coming days/weeks! It's not that I'm "too cool" to listen to it, just never been exposed to it.
Confession: I once moved to PDX, on a whim, to stalk Elliot Smith. I found out he moved to Brooklyn AFTER I got there.
Aaaaaaaaannnddd sigged. I quackin' heartchu, Garageland.
I'm honored! There was a bit about Kaia and Team Dresch but I'd be a) Showing my age and b) knowing no one knows who the hell Team Dresch was. I seriously can make a thread full of Portland stories. I almost had Mrs. GL convinced to move there after I finished telling them all to her.
GTFO the both of yas. You each sing the praises of far more obscure acts on here frequently. Elliott Smith was one of the greatest singer-songwriters in modern history. He could speak so profoundly through his guitar with such simple phrases that it makes you simultaneously envious and deeply sympathetic of how naturally it came to him. There was such raw, haunting honesty dripping in every syllable of his voice. If you've not listened to Either/Or by year's end, I may have to unleash my minions to blare it at you à la John Cusack in Say Anything.
Haha. Honestly being obscure/somewhat popular/mainstream doesn't have much bearing on the chances of whether I've heard it or not. I listen to zero radio, and don't really ever use Spotify or Pandora. My listening habits come out of here, music blogs, and from branching out from bands I know to bands they list as influences, fans of, or affiliated with.
So plenty of weird obscure stuff I know, but rather popular stuff I might be ignorant too.
Add in the fact that I generally don't get a lot from lyrically driven music (didn't really dig Sun Kill Moon), and it's no surprise that I'm not familiar with Elliot Smith. Didn't even know he was dead until your post just now actually.
And growing up, I was the one into music and would show my friends. So if I didn't find it, chances are I didn't really listen to it much.
But I promise to give Either/Or a listen in the coming days/weeks! It's not that I'm "too cool" to listen to it, just never been exposed to it.
If it makes you feel any better, I was more disappointed in Jaz as I think Smith would be much more up his alley.
GTFO the both of yas. You each sing the praises of far more obscure acts on here frequently. Elliott Smith was one of the greatest singer-songwriters in modern history. He could speak so profoundly through his guitar with such simple phrases that it makes you simultaneously envious and deeply sympathetic of how naturally it came to him. There was such raw, haunting honesty dripping in every syllable of his voice. If you've not listened to Either/Or by year's end, I may have to unleash my minions to blare it at you à la John Cusack in Say Anything.
Haha. Honestly being obscure/somewhat popular/mainstream doesn't have much bearing on the chances of whether I've heard it or not. I listen to zero radio, and don't really ever use Spotify or Pandora. My listening habits come out of here, music blogs, and from branching out from bands I know to bands they list as influences, fans of, or affiliated with.
So plenty of weird obscure stuff I know, but rather popular stuff I might be ignorant too.
Add in the fact that I generally don't get a lot from lyrically driven music (didn't really dig Sun Kill Moon), and it's no surprise that I'm not familiar with Elliot Smith. Didn't even know he was dead until your post just now actually.
That's fair. While lyrics are important to me (esp. as a singer in a more lyrical genre), the power should always lie predominantly in the delivery. Countless times I've gone to record a track with lyrics that sound great on paper, but which just don't mesh with the track itself. The music itself has to lead, and the lyrics have to dance in rhythm.
It does seem to be a bit more Jaz's vibe considering what I know of your tastes, but give it a shot - maybe you'll dig it, maybe you won't. It's very late-night, reflective mood, several glasses of wine down, sort of music.
Aaaaaaaaannnddd sigged. I quackin' heartchu, Garageland.
I'm honored! There was a bit about Kaia and Team Dresch but I'd be a) Showing my age and b) knowing no one knows who the hell Team Dresch was. I seriously can make a thread full of Portland stories. I almost had Mrs. GL convinced to move there after I finished telling them all to her.
Well, we know what the next thread you create should be.
"Garageland Regales Us With Tales From The Flannel Aisle"
I'm honored! There was a bit about Kaia and Team Dresch but I'd be a) Showing my age and b) knowing no one knows who the hell Team Dresch was. I seriously can make a thread full of Portland stories. I almost had Mrs. GL convinced to move there after I finished telling them all to her.
Well, we know what the next thread you create should be.
"Garageland Regales Us With Tales From The Flannel Aisle"
The real confession here? Garageland moved Portland before it was cool and mainstream, so he could follow a bunch of obscure bands around. Next thing, he'll be telling us he moved out there on his fixed gear bicycle.
If it wasn't for Elliott Smith and his music, I doubt any of you would know me. He completely changed how I listened to music and the music I listened to. He was my first true musical love.
can't remember if you are a Community fan or not, but both shows kind of start with a sitcommie premise (group of friends at college / zany scientist dad moves in with family) and really quickly get into elevated existential/human condition type themes, sometimes in a hilarious way, sometimes in a contemplative way, and often both.
I'd argue Rick & Morty is an even better vehicle for Harmon's brand of philosophical entertainment, since the speculative fiction side of things remove all limits on where it can go. Although I'm not sure if I'll ever love characters they way I loved the Community characters, particularly Abed (just rewatched the bottle episode from when britta was convinced someone was a psychopath based on the tests she administered, and the ending actually made me tear up a little).
anyway i'll pretty much watch anything harmon does forever now.
