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Just general incompetence. In hindsight saying it's PR issues really isn't fair to the other aspects they've botched; they've had problems with just about everything you could think of.
Their web forum speaks for itself; it's absolutely terrible.
They often (and last time I checked, still did for the 2014 lineup) appear to not edit things. Artists' names have been spelled wrong on posters/lineup pages.
They just sent out an email blast to everyone who's been to the festival with an incorrect date for their First Look event, and immediately had to send out another with a correction.
There was an issue with their webpage last year in that they didn't bother to make things secure, and we were able to ascertain nearly the entire lineup long before they'd planned on releasing it.
They spent weeks building up a "day of exciting announcements," which "flop" is too kind a word to use to describe. A good example of one of the announcements was that year-old merchandise in the online store was now discounted.
I could go on. The majority of this is just from the past year or so.
Another, just because it's too good to not include.
They had a grand total of three water stations last year. Three.
People were very unhappy, and very vocal about the lack of water being a problem. This year, they remedied the problem by not putting the water locations on the 2015 map at all. Someone asked on the Facebook page if the locations were going to be on there, and Firefly basically said "we'll look into seeing if that's possible."
Yea if I didn't have a camelbak I would have been fuckkkked, plus there was no rain most of the fest and dusty as all hell. Gotta have at least 5 water outposts if you got 80,000 people walking around, damn.
What were Redfrog's tendencies/problems in the past? I genuinely don't know but would like more background info. Are they always delaying/vague with lineup releases?
Let's not forget the insane traffic jam of 2013...and yes, not only did they accidentally leak artists last year on the website but then after the lineup was released, had wrong artists listed on the homepage for a little while--most of whom were never added to the lineup. And then of course nearly every ticket sale they've had, the website crashed. Hours of delays for tickets. I understand theyre new and growing and some problems like traffic has greatly improved. But, nothing excuses their level of incompetence when it comes to communication, including when the aforementioned problems occur.
okay, hearing more background is helpful to understand some frustrations. it's still a tad overboard here, considering they said "next week" and during that week time frame they started telling people that they've run into issues - shit happens. they are being as upfront as they can without disclosing whatever they can't disclose.
and I asked about coachella because their overall tactic is basically no communication at all - and I would argue that the average fan (not music & festival obsessers like ourselves) probably had no idea when the coachella lineup was coming out.
either way, cut 'em some slack. and hope you didn't lose macca. (I doubt it. unless there's a health emergency or something. I mean, he is old. and always has the possibility of getting hit by his stage pyrotechnics and going deaf)
Post by bigsnapple on Jan 30, 2015 15:26:29 GMT -5
Firefly Festival @liveatfirefly - 3 minutes ago Until the #FireflyLineup is released, we'll be giving away up to 10 #Firefly2015 tickets per day on our Facebook and Twitter. We love you.
Another, just because it's too good to not include.
They had a grand total of three water stations last year. Three.
People were very unhappy, and very vocal about the lack of water being a problem. This year, they remedied the problem by not putting the water locations on the 2015 map at all. Someone asked on the Facebook page if the locations were going to be on there, and Firefly basically said "we'll look into seeing if that's possible."
Yea if I didn't have a camelbak I would have been fuckkkked, plus there was no rain most of the fest and dusty as all hell. Gotta have at least 5 water outposts if you got 80,000 people walking around, damn.
I buy water at festivals. Not exclusively but whenever I see huge complaints about water stations and things I always think "It was worth the $3 for that bottle instead of waiting 40 minutes for warm, slightly off-tasting water."
Let's not forget the insane traffic jam of 2013...and yes, not only did they accidentally leak artists last year on the website but then after the lineup was released, had wrong artists listed on the homepage for a little while--most of whom were never added to the lineup. And then of course nearly every ticket sale they've had, the website crashed. Hours of delays for tickets. I understand theyre new and growing and some problems like traffic has greatly improved. But, nothing excuses their level of incompetence when it comes to communication, including when the aforementioned problems occur.
The 2003 traffic was a nightmare. I vowed never to go back after that, but to their credit it was a million times better last year.
Yea if I didn't have a camelbak I would have been fuckkkked, plus there was no rain most of the fest and dusty as all hell. Gotta have at least 5 water outposts if you got 80,000 people walking around, damn.
I buy water at festivals. Not exclusively but whenever I see huge complaints about water stations and things I always think "It was worth the $3 for that bottle instead of waiting 40 minutes for warm, slightly off-tasting water."
I didn't drink any water all weekend at pitchfork because I didn't feel like waiting in the insanely long line. I just drank beer and wine instead. I wouldn't really recommend it.
Let's not forget the insane traffic jam of 2013...and yes, not only did they accidentally leak artists last year on the website but then after the lineup was released, had wrong artists listed on the homepage for a little while--most of whom were never added to the lineup. And then of course nearly every ticket sale they've had, the website crashed. Hours of delays for tickets. I understand theyre new and growing and some problems like traffic has greatly improved. But, nothing excuses their level of incompetence when it comes to communication, including when the aforementioned problems occur.
True. Several friends of mine missed half of the entire first day 2013 because of the traffic issues.
And yeah, they had Avicii's name up on a graphic on their page for about two days after the lineup release last year, despite the fact that he wasn't on the lineup.
Firefly Festival @liveatfirefly - 3 minutes ago Until the #FireflyLineup is released, we'll be giving away up to 10 #Firefly2015 tickets per day on our Facebook and Twitter. We love you.
Yea if I didn't have a camelbak I would have been fuckkkked, plus there was no rain most of the fest and dusty as all hell. Gotta have at least 5 water outposts if you got 80,000 people walking around, damn.
I buy water at festivals. Not exclusively but whenever I see huge complaints about water stations and things I always think "It was worth the $3 for that bottle instead of waiting 40 minutes for warm, slightly off-tasting water."
You're insane if you think you can stay properly hydrated drinking bottles for $3 a pop. That would get expensive sooooo fast.
I buy water at festivals. Not exclusively but whenever I see huge complaints about water stations and things I always think "It was worth the $3 for that bottle instead of waiting 40 minutes for warm, slightly off-tasting water."
I didn't drink any water all weekend at pitchfork because I didn't feel like waiting in the insanely long line. I just drank beer and wine instead. I wouldn't really recommend it.
Post by mountaineers22 on Jan 30, 2015 15:35:35 GMT -5
If I were a betting man I would put money on the chances of this lineup being totally weak, judging by all the crap they're going through.
And side note- the water situation at Firefly last year was terrible. The first day I saw how absurd the lines were to fill up and after that I started filling my Camelback before going in. Two times security gave me hell about going in with a full Camelback and I basically stuck to my guns and refused to pour out my water until they said, "fine just go in."
I buy water at festivals. Not exclusively but whenever I see huge complaints about water stations and things I always think "It was worth the $3 for that bottle instead of waiting 40 minutes for warm, slightly off-tasting water."
You're insane if you think you can stay properly hydrated drinking bottles for $3 a pop. That would get expensive sooooo fast.
The "not exclusively" part of my post was meant to imply that I also fill up at water stations. Just that I don't complain about long lines and waits at the stations because if I'm on my way somewhere and there is a wait at a water station I'll stop at a vendor and buy a water bottle for $3.
Basically, the guy was saying that the water stations were terrible and if he didn't have a camelbak he would have been in bad shape. I thought this was funny because it seemed like he wouldn't dare think of buying a water bottle that I'm sure they sold all around the festival.
I didn't drink any water all weekend at pitchfork because I didn't feel like waiting in the insanely long line. I just drank beer and wine instead. I wouldn't really recommend it.
#Amateur
pitchfork only has 1 water station. it would have definitely been at least an hour wait every time. it's a good thing it's not a camping festival.
also. would an amateur have one of these? I don't think so.