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I miss when their facebook was being overrun with outrage. Watching people shamefully/desperately beg to be thrown a freebie they have barely any chance of getting is kind of sad.
Agreed. All the sass is gone from the FB page, no fun at all.
And uhhh I really really doubt we get the lineup before Monday. They might make many illogical/frustrating PR decisions, but would they really choose to release it on a Saturday or Superbowl Sunday?
I dobut that we will get a lineup before Monday, but look at FB and Twitter. There are plenty of people posting and begging for tickets. Might be a low key way of releasing it, getting the monkey off their back, with promotion coming next week.
They worded it "up to 10 tickets per day until the lineup comes out". If it gets done today they'll release it today so tickets can go on sale Monday or Tuesday. They aren't worried about the weekend. Look at all people begging for free tickets, plenty of people are still paying attention.
Either way I'd be surprised if it does come out today
Post by Shrove Tuesday on Jan 31, 2015 14:09:56 GMT -5
Yeah definitely thinking later as opposed to sooner. The fact that they said they'd give away tickets each day until the lineup is released is a strong indicator it's going to be a few extra days.
They finally learned they should shy away from specifics. Under commit and over deliver I think is their motto from here on out.
I'm just so curious as to what happened. I'm still thinking maybe another bigger act signed on and they felt it was too big to announce as an add on artist.
Maybe they're waiting for 2pac, Biggie, Kurt Cobain or Michael Jackson to get back to them...
They only gave away 7 tickets yesterday from what I could find, and they just gave away 2 more on Twitter so I don't know if those are suppose to be today's tickets or catching up for yesterday. Either way I don't think we will see the lineup til Tuesday.
They worded it "up to 10 tickets per day until the lineup comes out". If it gets done today they'll release it today so tickets can go on sale Monday or Tuesday. They aren't worried about the weekend. Look at all people begging for free tickets, plenty of people are still paying attention.
Either way I'd be surprised if it does come out today
but anything free is gonna get peoples attention these days.
Yeah definitely thinking later as opposed to sooner. The fact that they said they'd give away tickets each day until the lineup is released is a strong indicator it's going to be a few extra days.
They finally learned they should shy away from specifics. Under commit and over deliver I think is their motto from here on out.
I'm just so curious as to what happened. I'm still thinking maybe another bigger act signed on and they felt it was too big to announce as an add on artist.
Maybe they're waiting for 2pac, Biggie, Kurt Cobain or Michael Jackson to get back to them...
A hologram superjam featuring 2pac, Kurt Cobain, and Special Guests.
Yeah definitely thinking later as opposed to sooner. The fact that they said they'd give away tickets each day until the lineup is released is a strong indicator it's going to be a few extra days.
They finally learned they should shy away from specifics. Under commit and over deliver I think is their motto from here on out.
I'm just so curious as to what happened. I'm still thinking maybe another bigger act signed on and they felt it was too big to announce as an add on artist.
Maybe they're waiting for 2pac, Biggie, Kurt Cobain or Michael Jackson to get back to them...
Nah, you're forgetting Kurt is doing that Euro tour in June, and I heard MJ hasn't been doing many shows lately. I bet 2pac is in tho.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
They worded it "up to 10 tickets per day until the lineup comes out". If it gets done today they'll release it today so tickets can go on sale Monday or Tuesday. They aren't worried about the weekend. Look at all people begging for free tickets, plenty of people are still paying attention.
Either way I'd be surprised if it does come out today
but anything free is gonna get peoples attention these days.
It's the new American Dream, do as little as possible and get as much as possible.
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
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How anyone could say it'll "probably" come this day or that day is beyond me. Firefly doesn't even know when the lineup is coming, so how could we "probably" estimate?
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
I worded that poorly, I agree with you Launchpad. By "lineup being done", I meant to say as soon as they get their approvals they'll release it. I read an article about the surrounding counties fighting over profits so I'd imagine that's the hold up.
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
Are you referring to the article that came out about the issues with the zoning? I think it said something like part of the grounds is on one county and part is on another. They wanted to move the location to be on soley one county.
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
That's good to know, and what I thought earlier in the week when I read the article in the News Journal. That does seem like a wise move on their part to make sure there are no problems. I know there was a study late last year that indicated Firefly added just under $70 mil to the local economy.
Too bad they didn't doing something like John Oliver would, and sick the masses on some local government officials. That would be kind of fun to watch.
FF already put themself in a situation they clearly want no parts of. While a weekend release is unlikely, If the lineup is done Monday (my guess), that's when we'll see it.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
Hmmm guess maybe it does have to do with that jusdiction stuff that was in the paper. I mean the land is leased until 2033 so I wouldn't think they'd be worried about that. Public safety could play a role. That's why punkin chunkin was canceled last year. Liability, public safety, who foots the bill for what... Red tape stuff.
And why the local gov doesn't bend over and grab their ankles for Firefly is beyond me. I think our overall revenue from FF has been something like 68 mil. They did it for punkin chunkin when they threatened to move out of state and I don't think it has generated nearly as much revenue.
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I feel like coming out and saying that they are experiencing a local gov discrepancy would rally fans to sign petitions or sympathize with Red Frog and be more patient. Not to mention when tickets do go on sale and they work everything out a rush of people would buy tickets in a "World could have ended but didn't" type phenomenon.
FWIW I'm hearing the hold up has nothing to do with lineup issues. If it was just one or two acts they were waiting on; they'd put out the lineup and announce those artists as "additions."
Apparently the local gov is giving them a hard time. It'll most likely get sorted out. But they don't want to put anything out unless they are sure their won't be problems down the line.
Could you imagine the clusterfuck they'd face if they announced a Paul McCartney concert, sold thousands of tickets, and then had to cancel the whole thing? Wise move on their part to wait.
Are you referring to the article that came out about the issues with the zoning? I think it said something like part of the grounds is on one county and part is on another. They wanted to move the location to be on soley one county.
Edit: what ru just said.
I didn't even know their was an article about any of this haha. I don't even know what the specifics of the problems are. Direct quote: "the locals are giving them problems, so they don't want to sell tickets and risk taking damages if it gets cancelled."
I feel like coming out and saying that they are experiencing a local gov discrepancy would rally fans to sign petitions or sympathize with Red Frog and be more patient. Not to mention when tickets do go on sale and they work everything out a rush of people would buy tickets in a "World could have ended but didn't" type phenomenon.
And would piss off the wrong people too I'm guessing haha
No reason to make a mountain out of a mole hill. It'll get settled. Theirs too much riding on both ends.
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Post by Jeremy Jamm on Jan 31, 2015 15:22:33 GMT -5
Well we obviously know the lineup won't be out until at least Monday then. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes well later in the week. Everyone knows anything involving any sort of government/officials/whatever isn't going to be a quick resolution. It's probably why RedFrog assumed they could get the lineup out this week.
Post by itsmegaforshort on Jan 31, 2015 15:24:08 GMT -5
This is definitely concerning - but hopefully only them acting with extreme caution. I can't see how the local government here could really have a problem with something that generates so much money and attention for the community - especially since the NASCAR Races put just as many people on the campground as firefly.
I guess they probably wouldnt have expanded to having a second festival (big barrel) if they were really concerned though
Well we obviously know the lineup won't be out until at least Monday then. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes well later in the week. Everyone knows anything involving any sort of government isn't going to be a quick resolution.
Also as someone who lives in Dover area - I can tell you that the local gov can be very slow and almost certainly isn't working on it over the weekend - they are very traditional here
what I've learned in this thread: a lot of people have opinions regarding how public relations and communications should be handled correctly. and a lot of you don't have a damn clue about anything regarding public relations and its best practices.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Jan 31, 2015 15:34:34 GMT -5
I'm sure the local government just has some random problem with it. It surely has nothing at all to do with tax revenue, hidden under the guise of streamlining jurisdiction issues for emergency services.
I'm sure the local government just has some random problem with it. It surely has nothing at all to do with tax revenue, hidden under the guise of streamlining jurisdiction issues for emergency services.
#allstar
Who are you even responding to? I didn't see anyone say anything about a random problem - in fact I think everyone pretty much acknowledged that if it is a local gov holdup it's the zoning thing in the article - aka a money issue wrapped up as being about public safety. Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anyone post anything that said it was some random problem - and it seems to me you are just looking for any opportunity to be scornful and to use your little #allstar hashtag crap. That kind of negativity is really unnecessary
I'm sure the local government just has some random problem with it. It surely has nothing at all to do with tax revenue, hidden under the guise of streamlining jurisdiction issues for emergency services.
#allstar
Who are you even responding to? I didn't see anyone say anything about a random problem - in fact I think everyone pretty much acknowledged that if it is a local gov holdup it's the zoning thing in the article - aka a money issue wrapped up as being about public safety. Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anyone post anything that said it was some random problem - and it seems to me you are just looking for any opportunity to be scornful and to use your little #allstar hashtag crap. That kind of negativity is really unnecessary
FWIW I didn't take it as being a response to anyone, and taking a shot at the local government for making it out to be emergency services, when it's about $.