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Hey. I have a high post count. I think you suck.
Hello. I do not have a high post count. I think carlzner sucks.
Post by Jeremy Jamm on Feb 3, 2015 16:47:55 GMT -5
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
I'm gonna start applying the Firefly logic in real life. Next time I have an exam I'm not ready for, I'm just going to go up to my professor and say "Look boss, I'm not ready for this. I'll let you know when I feel like taking it." and walk out. See what happens.
I'm gonna start applying the Firefly logic in real life. Next time I have an exam I'm not ready for, I'm just going to go up to my professor and say "Look boss, I'm not ready for this. I'll let you know when I feel like taking it." and walk out. See what happens.
I was hoping you wouldn't post here. People might start believing his correlationalistic science.
What about people like me that just plain out suck to the core of our being? I'm pretty sure I sucked just as bad at 30 posts as I do now. AM I going to throw off all his science?
In my defense, I did have a good non-sucking run between posts 454-468.
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
Eh, I dunno, I've lurked on the headliner thread for a few years and definitely remember people getting into it once or twice.
If that's the case though, why the negativity just here? Is it because Firefly is a younger festival than Roo and people feel a need to talk down about it? Maybe that's what happens in the Hangout thread, too?
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
This is pretty much what I figured. Honestly, I can see the temptation to get Carlzner going and watch the fireworks. I'm sure some people just can't help themselves.
Post by Shrove Tuesday on Feb 3, 2015 17:06:06 GMT -5
Can we all just face facts. We're currently message board fighting. Firefly and redfrog are winning. Their PR team(what's left of it) is watching and laughing as this unfolds.
I fear this may go all "hunger games" in a minute. Carl volunteers as tribute for FF.
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
It it that posters are sitting there with drool spilling from their mouth just waiting at the opportunity to mock someone in this thread? Or is it that this thread is getting a lot of attention because the leaked image and delayed lineup release are creating more buzz and thus attracting more people?
There are definitely certain posters that like to use their wit and sarcasm to make points on this message board, that's a fact. But for the most part they tend to be responding to questions/comments and are contributing to the discussion in their own snarky way. Sometimes it can take a bit of humility and thicker skin to step back and see that it's not that serious and mostly in jest. For example, look at this exchange:
New Member: I think this band (who hasn't toured or released an album in ten years) will be on the lineup for sure!
Veteran member: That's dumb.
Now there are a few ways this can be responded to. The new member could take it in stride and respond with "Haha, I figured they were due for a reunion but why do you think that's dumb?". Which would probably lead to some discussion. The new member could ignore that post and think "I don't care if that veteran member thinks it's a dumb idea. I want it and think it would be cool". Or that new member could respond with "No, you're dumb and this whole place is dumb." because they see people making jokes about their post or about this thread in general.
The point is.....most of the "responses" that people deem to be mean here aren't trolling like you and carlzner seem to think it is. There aren't guys that just wait on the sides for new people to post so they can pounce all over them for no reason. Typically the discussion stems from things that are posted on here that those members disagree with (or in some cases, are more knowledgeable about).
Also, use the report button. That way we can decide if someone is being out of line or if it was in line with the discussion (even if it's a bit more "smartass" than some would like).
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
Eh, I dunno, I've lurked on the headliner thread for a few years and definitely remember people getting into it once or twice.
If that's the case though, why the negativity just here? Is it because Firefly is a younger festival than Roo and people feel a need to talk down about it? Maybe that's what happens in the Hangout thread, too?
My first fest was actually Firefly in 2013, and I thought it was a pretty solid lineup. Then they made it four days with over 100 something bands and it just seemed really unnecessary and weak. When Imagine Dragons and Lumineers were billed 4th and 6th, it made it really difficult to take seriously.
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
Eh, I dunno, I've lurked on the headliner thread for a few years and definitely remember people getting into it once or twice.
If that's the case though, why the negativity just here? Is it because Firefly is a younger festival than Roo and people feel a need to talk down about it? Maybe that's what happens in the Hangout thread, too?
Nope. The Roo Headliner thread is no better then this one or the Hangout thread. If you go there, you'll see we make fun of it all the time, and make fun of ourselves for posting in it. It's pretty much just a free for all.
Any popular thread dealing with an upcoming festival is going to be a shitshow on one level or another. That's just the internet at work.
In my opinion, it has nothing to do with Firefly being a younger festival. I think I can speak for most of the regulars here when I say we don't feel some competitive need to trash festivals that aren't Roo. Sure it happens but most people really don't think like that.
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
I think the rampant "negativity" in this thread is an anomaly. If those of you who joined in recent months venture into other sections of this forum, I think you will find Inforoo to be a much more hospitable, friendly, and welcoming environment.
Eh, I dunno, I've lurked on the headliner thread for a few years and definitely remember people getting into it once or twice.
If that's the case though, why the negativity just here? Is it because Firefly is a younger festival than Roo and people feel a need to talk down about it? Maybe that's what happens in the Hangout thread, too?
As someone who joined Inforoo only a few months ago, I can somewhat understand your perspective. When I first joined, I was a bit intimidated because I'm not as knowledgeable about Roo (or music in general) as many of the veterans here, and I noticed that a naive or ill-informed opinion would be met with swift objection and criticism. However, as the days went by, I learned that this type of reaction is often justified because someone expressed a strong opinion that was either ignorant of the facts or pure conjecture. In other cases, such as the #allstar thread, some people are called out for making blatantly offensive comments. While some folks (including myself on occasion) could make an effort to be less abrasive and condescending, I've come to accept that it's kind of a "necessary evil", if you will. People often post comments without critical thought behind them, and comments that are repetitive or don't add anything of substance can quickly bog down a thread and pose an obstacle to serious discussion. I've also learned that it's important not to take things so seriously. If someone disagrees with your opinion or doesn't care for an artist you like, don't take it personally. Either stand up for your convictions with civil discussion or just shrug it off. Lastly, this a private message forum. It's a wild jungle in here and people will do/say what they want (within reason). If you're too sensitive and take offensive to any form of criticism, you're going to be eaten alive.
Eh, I dunno, I've lurked on the headliner thread for a few years and definitely remember people getting into it once or twice.
If that's the case though, why the negativity just here? Is it because Firefly is a younger festival than Roo and people feel a need to talk down about it? Maybe that's what happens in the Hangout thread, too?
As someone who joined Inforoo only a few months ago, I can somewhat understand your perspective. When I first joined, I was a bit intimidated because I'm not as knowledgeable about Roo (or music in general) as many of the veterans here, and I noticed that a naive or ill-informed opinion would be met with swift objection and criticism. However, as the days went by, I learned that this type of reaction is often justified because someone expressed a strong opinion that was either ignorant of the facts or pure conjecture. In other cases, such as the #allstar thread, some people are called out for making blatantly offensive comments. While some folks (including myself on occasion) could make an effort to be less abrasive and condescending, I've come to accept that it's kind of a "necessary evil", if you will. People often post comments without critical thought behind them, and comments that are repetitive or don't add anything of substance can quickly bog down a thread and pose an obstacle to serious discussion. I've also learned that it's important not to take things so seriously. If someone disagrees with your opinion or doesn't care for an artist you like, don't take it personally. Either stand up for your convictions with civil discussion or just shrug it off. Lastly, this a private message forum. It's a wild jungle in here and people will do/say what they want (within reason). If you're too sensitive and take offensive to any form of criticism, you're going to be eaten alive.
As bizarre and touchy as Carlzner may be the general idea he is alluring to, the "elitist" attitude definitely exists in this topic at times. It's been mentioned over and over but there are longtime posters that will jump at any opportunity to mock someone in this thread, which derails the conversation and leads to .. apparently what the Hangout thread is (?). From what I've seen, those posters generally don't contribute much else to the conversation, in this topic anyway. I can't speak for anywhere else on this site. I was once told to (paraphrasing here) "get used to it, it's necessary in life". If that's the norm so be it. I've just chosen to ignored it. Ironically of course Calzner only makes it worse pretty much every time he posts.
It it that posters are sitting there with drool spilling from their mouth just waiting at the opportunity to mock someone in this thread? Or is it that this thread is getting a lot of attention because the leaked image and delayed lineup release are creating more buzz and thus attracting more people?
There are definitely certain posters that like to use their wits and sarcasm to make points on this message board, that's a fact. But for the most part they tend to be responding to questions/comments and are contributing to the discussion in their own snarky way. Sometimes it can take a bit of humility and thicker skin to step back and see that it's not that serious and mostly in jest. For example, look at this exchange:
New Member: I think this band (who hasn't toured or released an album in ten years) will be on the lineup for sure!
Veteran member: That's dumb.
Now there are a few ways this can be responded to. The new member could take it in stride and respond with "Haha, I figured they were due for a reunion but why do you think that's dumb?". Which would probably lead to some discussion. The new member could ignore that post and think "I don't care if that veteran member thinks it's a dumb idea. I want it and think it would be cool". Or that new member could respond with "No, you're dumb and this whole place is dumb." because they see people making jokes about their post or about this thread in general.
The point is.....most of the "responses" that people deem to be mean here aren't trolling like you and carlzner seem to think it is. There aren't guys that just wait on the sides for new people to post so they can pounce all over them for no reason. Typically the discussion stems from things that are posted on here that those members disagree with (or in some cases, are more knowledgeable about).
Also, use the report button. That way we can decide if someone is being out of line or if it was in line with the discussion (even if it's a bit more "smartass" than some would like).
For sure, the interpretation of what someone says is much what we are really discussing here. For expample, I know that SFA doesn't mean any foul, so I always take what he says with a grain of salt, even if it may look to come across worse than it really sounds. Not to mention, he discusses Firefly aside from the sarcasm posts. There are however others that will quite literally pop in to take shots at Firefly or mock someones comment.... and that's the only time you see them in the thread. Seeing that, I'm not suprised anyone would assume that they are not simply being sarcastic and witty or whatever you want to call it. Another example, Launchpad is obviously knowledgeable about these things... more than me and most. He occassionally makes sarcastic posts about things people say including me but I have never felt that they were over the top or offended by it or whatever. It's all in the wording. It's not what you say but how you say it, which can be open to interpretation in a message board. But it is in fact, a message board. So I'm not going to get up in arms about it. Just pointing out what I've seen since it was brought up.
And just an FYI for new Firefly members. Don't feel your thread is special or being picked on. The Bonnaroo headliner thread last year, that made it to 800+ pages, became such a sh!thole of contention and vitriol it had to be locked by a Mod. We discussed setting it on fire and shooting the ashes into outer space, but decided it would be too costly.