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Yeah I've never seen him at a festival but I've not heard great things. I think a lot of his show depends on the production he puts on and I'm not sure how much of that translates to a festival setting
My sister saw him last year at Bonnaroo and she said it was awful. Told me that he spent more time going on rants about how he was the greatest musician to ever grace the world than he did actually playing music. She said he kept stopping mid-song and going on another rant.
THIS. While I was there, he just kept stopping songs to go on rants. Then we just left. Really wasnt digging it.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Someone probably already said this but perhaps the line up delay has to do with this being the first year the fest will be televised.
I'd assume that there are additional contracts for that. Maybe one of the artists doesn't want to be televised. Wants more money because its being televised?
I think at this point since we're almost at the end of the original "early Feb" release (considering early Feb to be 1st week of month) I'd hope for at least another statement from red frog.
Where is it being televised? Palladia or something like that?
AXS, pretty sure. Nice thing about that is I'm hoping they'll rebroadcast it from time to time so we can see some acts from a TV coverage/production angle.
My sister saw him last year at Bonnaroo and she said it was awful. Told me that he spent more time going on rants about how he was the greatest musician to ever grace the world than he did actually playing music. She said he kept stopping mid-song and going on another rant.
Your sister's memory is inaccurate.
Well, she doesn't drink or do drugs, and she told me that the day she returned from the festival, so I believe her. Two people on this page of the thread agreed about that too, so maybe it is you whose memory is inaccurate.
am i the noly one who think Kanye is medicore at best live? He was fucking terrible at Made In America last year
Yeah I had high hopes for that show too. I wouldn't say he was fucking terrible but didn't live up to the hype. The National were better.
I saw The National last year and they were terrible. That's not to say they always are, any artist or group though can be caught on an off night. Kanye was great when I saw him and that's coming from someone who really only listens for his beats. It's hard for me to get past his vocals when A. He had writers for his early/best lyrical work.(Opinion on what's his best work) B. Its hard to listen to him if you knew who Consequence was before you heard Kanye. Much like how it was hard to listen to Pusha T when he initially signed to GOOD Music and decided to match flows with Kanye.
Well, she doesn't drink or do drugs, and she told me that the day she returned from the festival, so I believe her. Two people on this page of the thread agreed about that too, so maybe it is you whose memory is inaccurate.
I'm not in the mood to re-litigate this fight, but people heard what they wanted the hear.
My sister saw him last year at Bonnaroo and she said it was awful. Told me that he spent more time going on rants about how he was the greatest musician to ever grace the world than he did actually playing music. She said he kept stopping mid-song and going on another rant.
THIS. While I was there, he just kept stopping songs to go on rants. Then we just left. Really wasnt digging it.
I was stuck in the pit! No way to get out. I had heard great things of his tour but I did not expect any of that and a total vibe killer in stopping and starting songs. I was looking around like is this really happening? I was so close I could actually see him unlike what I heard from most people and when he was going on some of those rants he was stomping around and looking totally coked out or something, he seemed wacked the fuck out and I honestly think he stopped 15 minutes early cause he was too fucked up to continue, remember when he forgot some of the lyrics to heartless? Was not his finest night.
Well, she doesn't drink or do drugs, and she told me that the day she returned from the festival, so I believe her. Two people on this page of the thread agreed about that too, so maybe it is you whose memory is inaccurate.
I'm not in the mood to re-litigate this fight, but people heard what they wanted the hear.
Fair enough, but, "people heard what they wanted to hear" goes both ways.
EDIT: And the person above this post seems to agree as well.
I'm not in the mood to re-litigate this fight, but people heard what they wanted the hear.
Fair enough, but, "people heard what they wanted to hear" goes both ways.
EDIT: And the person above this post seems to agree as well.
Jack White did the same shit and no one remembers or brings it up.
Kanye has a planned "message" portion of his show, just like Bruce or Pearl Jam or plenty of others. At Bonnaroo he did it twice, one of which had an overall meassage of "I believe in myself and I want you all to believe in yourselves too." It wasn't a big deal.
That said, the production last summer was nowhere near as good as the Yeezus tour.
Fair enough, but, "people heard what they wanted to hear" goes both ways.
EDIT: And the person above this post seems to agree as well.
Jack White did the same shit and no one remembers or brings it up.
Kanye has a planned "message" portion of his show, just like Bruce or Pearl Jam or plenty of others. At Bonnaroo he did it twice, one of which had an overall meassage of "I believe in myself and I want you all to believe in yourselves too." It wasn't a big deal.
That said, the production last summer was nowhere near as good as the Yeezus tour.
Jack White told stories about the music and to get people to clap along or sing along. Kanye kept bringing up 2008 and it ruined the flow of the show. I was extremely excited to see Yeezus and was disappointed so i left early to get a good spot for Ice Cube
Where is it being televised? Palladia or something like that?
AXS, pretty sure. Nice thing about that is I'm hoping they'll rebroadcast it from time to time so we can see some acts from a TV coverage/production angle.
Yeah here's an article about from the news journal back in November.
Jack White did the same shit and no one remembers or brings it up.
Kanye has a planned "message" portion of his show, just like Bruce or Pearl Jam or plenty of others. At Bonnaroo he did it twice, one of which had an overall meassage of "I believe in myself and I want you all to believe in yourselves too." It wasn't a big deal.
That said, the production last summer was nowhere near as good as the Yeezus tour.
You make it sound better than it was. I stayed at Kanye for an hour and I only heard 6 songs and two rants. The rant portion totaled almost 20 min out of that hour. I love Kanyes music. But that was pretty lame.
I'm not a huge kanye fan, but I love some of his songs. I thought his rants were the most entertaining parts of his set. Kanye's rants are just a part of the show, the annoying part was stopping songs to rant or because he missed his cue to start.
This is the exchange I was talking about on the fan page re: the delay and security. Again take it for what it's worth
CassieAlice Hastings It is the security. Basically they had more problems with security acting like assholes than the attendees. And by security I don't mean the crews near the gates or near camping entrances. I mean the ones on golf carts drinking and partying with people. Big barrel is not as large as FF yet. So the security plan already proposed is fine. They also have already had their layout meeting with dover downs and local contractors.
Adam Andrew Simply put, a certain British knight will be arriving. Said British knight requires a certain level of security prior to signing off on appearances. That level of security has yet to be met. 2 hrs · Like · 3
CassieAlice Hastings Would you want to be announced as an famous act without knowing how the security is going to be?
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Tyler House Because it's an issue that could affect whether the festival happens or not, so until it is resolved they want to halt all progress 2 hrs · Like
CassieAlice Hastings It will be resolved. Just a matter of time and finding local agencies (cheaper) and the amount of local agencies in delaware are Nil 2 hrs · Like
Not not that anyone cares but here was the shit show that was Kanye at Bonnaroo 2014
Thank you for posting a 5 minute video from his 21 song set. Very informative.
Edit: I wish the full video was still online. This whole thing was blown totally out of proportion. If god forbid I'm at a Ted Nugent show one day waiting around for him to play Stranglehold. I'm not gonna flip my shit when he starts waving around an automatic rifle and doing his right wing rants. That's a big part of what people like about him, but it doesn't connect with me (at all). It's an insult to the integrity of live music or anything though.
Post by Shrove Tuesday on Feb 5, 2015 18:50:43 GMT -5
They make a valid point about significant security measures. I guess if Delaware doesn't have the necessary companies to accommodate then having to look outside the state to places like PA, NJ or MD could be more time consuming.
But again you would think this was hashed out in his contract and I firmly believe his contract was negotiated and signed many months ago.
Not not that anyone cares but here was the shit show that was Kanye at Bonnaroo 2014
Thank you for posting a 5 minute video from his 21 song set. Very informative.
Edit: I wish the full video was still online. This whole thing was blown totally out of proportion. If god forbid I'm at a Ted Nugent show one day waiting around for him to play Stranglehold. I'm not gonna flip my shit when he starts waving around an automatic rifle and doing his right wing rants. That's a big part of what people like about him, but it doesn't connect with me (at all). It's an insult to the integrity of live music or anything though.
I guess we all see things differently. Numerous people on here have stated he destroyed the flow but ranting and cutting off songs. Others didn't see it this way or enjoyed the rants. Its why debate is always a good and fun thing
Drake should not be even in the same conversation as Kanye. Kanye is a proven hip hop legend, dropping some of the hip hop albums in history(College Dropout, Late Registration, MBDTF). I get that people don't like his ego, but you have to admit some of his music is incredible.
I tell people the same thing... but still "Hes still a dick, i don't like him.". If half the artists spoke their mind like Kanye, no one would like them either
I, and the crowd around me, enjoyed every part of Kanye's set. I didn't find the rants to be distracting or annoying. I would have liked more of a show, but it's not a Yeezus show so I was fine with it. I had fun singing every line of every song he went through and I look forward to seeing him again at some point.
I, and the crowd around me, enjoyed every part of Kanye's set. I didn't find the rants to be distracting or annoying. I would have liked more of a show, but it's not a Yeezus show so I was fine with it. I had fun singing every line of every song he went through and I look forward to seeing him again at some point.
I too wanna see him in concert again. I was just soured by the Roo performance when i was excited to see him
I see lots of complaints about who is winning these contests but if Firefly is giving away tickets to the shitty entries, why don't you make shitty entries? It's about trying to appeal to the decision maker not writing what you want.
I have entered like two of the contest and did not win. I haven't gone outrageous with my claims or anything so I guess I need to get going with the crazyness. Like i said saving $275 would be nice but Im gonna go regardless. Just can be annoying to see a photoshop win.
Music wise he's one dimensional. Person wise he's an act not an artist.
These are my opinions and only my opinions. And honestly my opinion really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Im sure there's plenty of music I like that you completely detest. And that's OK, I won't get mad at you about it.
Not trying to be argumentative, just looking for constructive discussion. But what makes you say that music wise he's one dimensional. If anything, I think he's more well rounded than a lot of other rappers out there because he can sing and rap. He can do his own hooks and rap his own verses. He raps about a larger variety of subjects than many other rappers. And these are all entertainers how many musical artists do you think aren't acts? I think a large number of the most popular artists are probably portraying somebody other than who they really are. If anything I think drake is a bit more true to himself because he doesn't try to claim things like he sold drugs or banged on the streets or anything like that.
Again, not looking to be inflammatory just looking to have honest musical discussion on a music board.
And this is where I always run I to a problem when discussing hip hop with just about anyone. I can't stand the "well he's better than most other rappers out there" argument. Hip hop has devolved so greatly in the last 15 years it's almost unreal. Rappers like Drake and Kendrick don't even hold a candle to the brilliant old school hip hop artists like Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Wu Tang, and Nas (only talking about Illmatic, really). These artists were not only vastly better at rhyming, but they also had much better wordplay, lyrics, and flow. This is all just my opinion, but I'll never understand why people choose to listen to today's rap, when there is a plethora of great hip hop music that came out in the 90's. Drake might be better than what's out there right now, but he isn't even close to the level that 90's hip hop was on.