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Firefly may have more than the average fest to spend just because they have a separate charge for camping. Its not an over the top fee splitting it with friends but its definitely a nice extra revenue stream for them. They probably do have a little more overhead than Bonnaroo since they don't own the land but just something to consider.
And with the Killers the first firefly was about 20K people. We're looking at 80K plus this year- the repeat is a nonissue due to the growth of the festival.
It's going to be a very top heavy lineup this year. They threw down an obscene amount of money to get Paul.
Hope they can still tap some acts like The Decemberists or Modest Mouse.
Exactly my thinking. Paul is obviously a legendary get, but I wouldn't want them to spend so much money on the top 5/10 that the rest of the lineup is filler garbage. I think the 2013 Roo lineup managed to have a decent undercard even with a top 3 of Paul - Mumford - Petty.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 14, 2015 12:00:12 GMT -5
I'm not overly concerned about them pulling back on spending on the rest of the lineup, only because Firefly doesn't have the luxury of being established as long as Bonnaroo and Coachella
I think it's perfect as is. If you start raising the age demo, you start competing with Roo in a battle that you won't win, their niche in the college/post-grad market is treating them very well.
no its not perfect as is. College kids arent spending 100$ on alcohol a day inside like many 25 and older do. being able to appeal even a little more to an older demo (like this top 3 certainly does) is how you maximize your profits. I bet you the VIP sales will nearly double with McCartney playing
I know you was able to tell everybody they was playing Bonnaroo even after all the confusion with insider, just wondering if you knew for Firefly.
No MMJ. But I haven't seen the full lineup. And honestly last I heard the full lineup wasn't even done yet. They were still working it all out. Hence why I'm not saying count on Snoop Dogg to be there. It might fall through. He's just one of the names I know they were talking about for a pre-hl spot. Two years ago Atoms for Peace fell through at the last second for Gov Ball, last year Eminem fell through on them too. Prince has backed out on Bonnaroo 3 times now. This year Alt-J and Pixies didn't work out for them either. Certain acts are just written in pencil and not a done deal. I can tell you that Killers-KoL-Paul are written in sharpie though.
I know you was able to tell everybody they was playing Bonnaroo even after all the confusion with insider, just wondering if you knew for Firefly.
No MMJ. But I haven't seen the full lineup. And honestly last I heard the full lineup wasn't even done yet. They were still working it all out. Hence why I'm not saying count on Snoop Dogg to be there. It might fall through. He's just one of the names I know they were talking about for a pre-hl spot. Two years ago Atoms for Peace fell through at the last second for Gov Ball, last year Eminem fell through on them too. Prince has backed out on Bonnaroo 3 times now. This year Alt-J and Pixies didn't work out for them either. Certain acts are just written in pencil and not a done deal. I can tell you that Killers-KoL-Paul are written in sharpie though.
Thanks for the details, Launchpad. Is that really true about Prince? Geez, that must be frustrating for AC and Co.
Post by Swedish Chef on Jan 14, 2015 12:10:35 GMT -5
As long as the undercard isn't terrible, there's a decent chance that I'll be there with a few friends from home. I've never seen Paul, and The Beatles are my favorite band, so that would be surreal for me. And despite how confusing The Killers booking is, I've never seen them either (I'm a fan but not a huge fan of their work).
Post by Jeremy Jamm on Jan 14, 2015 12:13:00 GMT -5
As much as I would love to see McCartney I hope the undercard isn't a complete letdown... it seems like this is weak year for festival lineups to begin with.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 14, 2015 12:20:26 GMT -5
With Red Frog and Golden Voice making it no secret they want to see Firefly become a two weekend festival, I think they know they need to generate some real buzz around this years lineup to do so.
Post by Swedish Chef on Jan 14, 2015 12:40:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking we'll have Skrillex as the highest billed EDM act. He's never played Firefly, and it looks like he's hitting some festivals he didn't play last year. With Paul on the lineup, I can't see them spending all that money on Deadmau5. Also, I find it hard to believe Deadmau5 would be billed outside the top 3 at Firefly but not at Gov Ball or Bonnaroo.
Yea, so. If Macca gets booked, who's coming to Firefly with me?
If they sell day passes and I like the other stuff playing that day, I'm down.
A day pass for me would be amazing actually. But it'd be hard to justify the trip from Ohio for one day... We shall see, but a day pass may be the best option financially for me too.
Did you see the Shaky Knees line up? That's a def contender now too.
Post by thepeppers on Jan 14, 2015 13:00:50 GMT -5
@gambit88 thanks for all the information! I knew Prince has backed out of Roo before, but that's crazy it has happened 3 times. Sucks that MMJ is not playing, thought it was good chances because of Gov Ball and Roo...oh well. I would imagine they will play near Charlotte or near Richmond sometime in the future (maybe Lockn).
Monie it seems likely me and my group will be attending this year, which I know gives your more incentives to go.
@gambit88 thanks for all the information! I knew Prince has backed out of Roo before, but that's crazy it has happened 3 times. Sucks that MMJ is not playing, thought it was good chances because of Gov Ball and Roo...oh well. I would imagine they will play near Charlotte or near Richmond sometime in the future (maybe Lockn).
Monie it seems likely me and my group will be attending this year, which I know gives your more incentives to go.
You're making this hard. I need to wait for a full line up. But that day pass option is looking tempting.
If they sell day passes and I like the other stuff playing that day, I'm down.
A day pass for me would be amazing actually. But it'd be hard to justify the trip from Ohio for one day... We shall see, but a day pass may be the best option financially for me too.
Did you see the Shaky Knees line up? That's a def contender now too.
I have no interest in Shaky Knees really, other than for NMH and James Blake, who I've both seen. Everyone else I want to see is also playing GovBall, so I'm pretty sure that's gonna be the other fest I do this year. But then NFF...ugh so many choices.
@gambit88 thanks for all the information! I knew Prince has backed out of Roo before, but that's crazy it has happened 3 times. Sucks that MMJ is not playing, thought it was good chances because of Gov Ball and Roo...oh well. I would imagine they will play near Charlotte or near Richmond sometime in the future (maybe Lockn).
Monie it seems likely me and my group will be attending this year, which I know gives your more incentives to go.
You're making this hard. I need to wait for a full line up. But that day pass option is looking tempting.
I think the only way I make it this year is if they sell day passes too. We'll see. They are going to put the 4 day on sale first and if it sells really well, they are probably going to discontinue single days.
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I'm thinking we'll have Skrillex as the highest billed EDM act. He's never played Firefly, and it looks like he's hitting some festivals he didn't play last year. With Paul on the lineup, I can't see them spending all that money on Deadmau5. Also, I find it hard to believe Deadmau5 would be billed outside the top 3 at Firefly but not at Gov Ball or Bonnaroo.
Skrill probably isn't that much cheaper than mau5. I am thinking a bunch of mid-tear EDM acts like Porter or Flume. However my gut is telling me they will Aoki us.