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Last year FF had a mediocre lineup, and they're shooting for two weekends in 2016. The only way they make that leap is a massive lineup this year. Like you said, there's a ton of overheard costs but if they go overboard on this year's lineup and make less than average net profit, it'll set them up to cash in in a big time way for the foreseeable future.
not 100% sure, but i think the two weekends thing includes the big barrel festival
Paul McCartney/the Killers/KOL Robert Plant/Incubus/Foster the People/Avett Brothers The offspring/J Cole/Lorde/Lana del Rey/Modest Mouse/Avicii Of Monsters and Men/Knife Party/Tame Impala/St Vincent/Walk the Moon/Run the Jewels
Paul McCartney/the Killers/KOL Robert Plant/Incubus/Foster the People/Avett Brothers The offspring/J Cole/Lorde/Lana del Rey/Modest Mouse/Avicii Of Monsters and Men/Knife Party/Tame Impala/St Vincent/Walk the Moon/Run the Jewels
I don't think Lorde, Lana, and Avicii would be billed that low. I think they would all fall in the top 10.
Post by Swedish Chef on Jan 14, 2015 21:11:00 GMT -5
New guess:
Paul McCartney - Kings of Leon - The Killers - Skrillex Lorde - Snoop Dogg - Death Cab for Cutie - Alabama Shakes Passion Pit - J. Cole - Hozier - Nas - The Decemberists Tame Impala - Porter Robinson - Spoon - Belle & Sebastian Chromeo - Of Monsters and Men - Flying Lotus - St. Vincent TV on the Radio - HAIM - Fitz & The Tantrums - Gary Clark Jr.
Paul McCartney - Kings of Leon - The Killers - Skrillex Lorde - Snoop Dogg - Death Cab for Cutie - Alabama Shakes Passion Pit - J. Cole - Hozier - Nas - The Decemberists Tame Impala - Porter Robinson - Spoon - Belle & Sebastian Chromeo - Of Monsters and Men - Flying Lotus - St. Vincent TV on the Radio - HAIM - Fitz & The Tantrums - Gary Clark Jr.
Guys there is no way Of Monsters and Men will be there, they haven't toured since 13' and are probably working on a new album. Maybe next year. Also they would billed higher, they still get a lot of radio play.
Paul McCartney - Kings of Leon - The Killers - Skrillex Lorde - Snoop Dogg - Death Cab for Cutie - Alabama Shakes Passion Pit - J. Cole - Hozier - Nas - The Decemberists Tame Impala - Porter Robinson - Spoon - Belle & Sebastian Chromeo - Of Monsters and Men - Flying Lotus - St. Vincent TV on the Radio - HAIM - Fitz & The Tantrums - Gary Clark Jr.
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Paul McCartney - Kings of Leon - The Killers - Skrillex Lorde - Snoop Dogg - Death Cab for Cutie - Alabama Shakes Passion Pit - J. Cole - Hozier - Nas - The Decemberists Tame Impala - Porter Robinson - Spoon - Belle & Sebastian Chromeo - Of Monsters and Men - Flying Lotus - St. Vincent TV on the Radio - HAIM - Fitz & The Tantrums - Gary Clark Jr.
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Is Skrillex your guess for Thursday night? Last year for the 4th spot, they have the Thursday night "headliner" even though people do not consider it much of a headliner.
Guys there is no way Of Monsters and Men will be there, they haven't toured since 13' and are probably working on a new album. Maybe next year. Also they would billed higher, they still get a lot of radio play.
They're probably more likely for 2016, but I don't think you can rule them out just yet. Florence + The Machine, Alabama Shakes, Passion Pit, and Tame Impala are all working on new albums, and they're all playing multiple festivals this year. You could even apply to same logic to Mumford & Sons, and they've already been announced for Roo.
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Is Skrillex your guess for Thursday night? Last year for the 4th spot, they have the Thursday night "headliner" even though people do not consider it much of a headliner.
Imagine Dragons was 4th on the bill last year and was pre-HL Saturday before OutKast so I wouldn't count it (even though it would sell Thursday tickets and work out logistically with EDCLV)
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Is Skrillex your guess for Thursday night? Last year for the 4th spot, they have the Thursday night "headliner" even though people do not consider it much of a headliner.
No, Skrillex would definitely play either Friday or Saturday night (probably after the headliner). Similar to Roo, the Thursday night "headliner" is usually a smaller act. I think Local Natives was the Thursday night "headliner" last year.
Does anyone have any guesses on who the "headliner" for Thursday will be? Last year I was not impressed with the Thursday lineup so I am hoping they might put more bands on for Thursday.
Does anyone have any guesses on who the "headliner" for Thursday will be? Last year I was not impressed with the Thursday lineup so I am hoping they might put more bands on for Thursday.
A lot of 4-day ticket buyers don't show up until late Thursday/early Friday. Don't hold out hope for many moderately big names on Thursday.
Post by setlistvulture on Jan 14, 2015 23:45:45 GMT -5
I think Thursday night might be Florence + The Machine, she's playing every festival, and she's in the states for Roo the weekend prior, so it wouldn't be crazy for her to play Firefly Thursday, and then play Hurricane on Sunday. if you look at her tour history, that group goes back and forth and back and forth a lot.
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I think Thursday night might be Florence + The Machine, she's playing every festival, and she's in the states for Roo the weekend prior, so it wouldn't be crazy for her to play Firefly Thursday, and then play Hurricane on Sunday. if you look at her tour history, that group goes back and forth and back and forth a lot.
I think Thursday night might be Florence + The Machine, she's playing every festival, and she's in the states for Roo the weekend prior, so it wouldn't be crazy for her to play Firefly Thursday, and then play Hurricane on Sunday. if you look at her tour history, that group goes back and forth and back and forth a lot.
Again, think we're shooting way too high.
Would it be unusual, probably, but Florence has been on the want list every single year, and if they can get her I think they will, even if it means she'll play Thursday, because that's the only night she can. Thursday night for her is definitely not optimal, but if that's when she can play, that's when she'll play.
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I have never been to Firefly before, but it seems similar to Bonnaroo as far as scheduling. 3 of the 6 stages open on Thursday, but they usually give a bigger act than Roo does on Thursday. Last year Local Natives, who played the main stage at Roo in 2013. The headliners go unopposed. There is latenight, but not as big as focus as Roo. Is there any stages they have cover from the sun?
Seems wise to prepare for conflicts and a lot of day shows.
Also, I could see somebody like Tame Impala playing on Thursday. Imagine Dragons, Beck, and The Lumineers were 4, 5, and 6 on the lineup last year...and they all started their sets after 5 pm between Friday-Sunday. Florence+the Machine is guaranteed to be either 4/5/6 on the lineup IF they play.
I know Alt-J is seeming pretty unlikely cause of their tour dates, but I could definitely see them as a great Thursday night headliner. It'd kind of interesting that Firefly Festival has recently started following Alt-J and Foals on twitter. If somehow they make it to Firefly, they would fit into that slot and be able to make it over to Europe for the weekend.
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I know Alt-J is seeming pretty unlikely cause of their tour dates, but I could definitely see them as a great Thursday night headliner. It'd kind of interesting that Firefly Festival has recently started following Alt-J and Foals on twitter. If somehow they make it to Firefly, they would fit into that slot and be able to make it over to Europe for the weekend.
I wouldn't read much into that. As much as I would love Alt-J to be their...they're playing two festivals in Germany that weekend and are in Denmark the weekend before.
I know Alt-J is seeming pretty unlikely cause of their tour dates, but I could definitely see them as a great Thursday night headliner. It'd kind of interesting that Firefly Festival has recently started following Alt-J and Foals on twitter. If somehow they make it to Firefly, they would fit into that slot and be able to make it over to Europe for the weekend.
I wouldn't read much into that. As much as I would love Alt-J to be their...they're playing two festivals in Germany that weekend and are in Denmark the weekend before.
Yeah that's very true, it seems almost impossible.
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Ratatat would get me psyched. There is not many acts that could keep me from leaving early if KoL headlines that Sunday...but if Ratatat was to play after them (like Big Gigantic did last year after Jack Johnson) then i would stay Sunday night.
It says on Ratatat website there are more dates to be announced.
Yeah I think Ratatat is a high contender for Firefly. I'd be surprised not to see them on the list. Speaking of Big Gigantic what do you think about Firefly bringing them back for a third year in the row? Them becoming Firefly's signature way to close out the festival?
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Yeah I think Ratatat is a high contender for Firefly. I'd be surprised not to see them on the list. Speaking of Big Gigantic what do you think about Firefly bringing them back for a third year in the row? Them becoming Firefly's signature way to close out the festival?
Last year was the first year they closed, so I wouldn't stamp that a signature yet. I can't believe the support for Big G, Twenty One Pilots, and White Panda are getting - all decent acts but none should be back for a 3rd IMO
Guys there is no way Of Monsters and Men will be there, they haven't toured since 13' and are probably working on a new album. Maybe next year. Also they would billed higher, they still get a lot of radio play.
Would it be unusual, probably, but Florence has been on the want list every single year, and if they can get her I think they will, even if it means she'll play Thursday, because that's the only night she can. Thursday night for her is definitely not optimal, but if that's when she can play, that's when she'll play.
As much as I would prefer Florence to Lorde, Florence is not going to happen for two reasons:
1) She's way too big an act to play Thursday. She would be top 6 on the lineup, and Thursday is used for lower tier/up-and-coming acts. 2) Not only is she playing Hurricane, but she's also playing Southside that weekend, so it would be extremely inconvenient for her to play Thursday night in the states and then play twice within the next three days in Germany.
Paul McCartney - Kings of Leon - The Killers - Skrillex Lorde - Snoop Dogg - Death Cab for Cutie - Alabama Shakes Passion Pit - J. Cole - Hozier - Nas - The Decemberists Tame Impala - Porter Robinson - Spoon - Belle & Sebastian Chromeo - Of Monsters and Men - Flying Lotus - St. Vincent TV on the Radio - HAIM - Fitz & The Tantrums - Gary Clark Jr.
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Funny, and I was just going to make a comment that I didn't think it was possible to shit the bed when you book Paul McCartney, but these mocks prove that it is indeed a thing that could happen. There's absolutely nothing on that mock that inspires any sort of excitement outside of Macca. Nothing that can't be seen at any number of other festivals.
That would move Firefly in the front for the best lineup of the summer.
Funny, and I was just going to make a comment that I didn't think it was possible to shit the bed when you book Paul McCartney, but these mocks prove that it is indeed a thing that could happen. There's absolutely nothing on that mock that inspires any sort of excitement outside of Macca. Nothing that can't be seen at any number of other festivals.
Eh, based on their 2013 and 2014 lineups, I'm not expecting anything especially unique or awe-inspiring from Firefly (outside of Paul of course). It's getting to the point where the sheer number of festivals is making it much more difficult to craft a unique lineup. I think Coachella and Shaky Knees succeeded in doing this, but most other lineups so far are rather bland or repetitive. I think many of these artists also appeal to their target demographic (people who enjoy radio-friendly alt-rock/indie-rock/indie-folk). Besides, weren't you criticizing Roo earlier for not booking acts like Tame Impala, St. Vincent, and TV on the Radio?
im not sure if some of you are overrating Firefly or underrating Flroence thinking they could seriously play on Thursday
I'm definitely not underrating Florence, she is my absolute favorite artist. I'm just saying that logistically if Firefly can book her they will, the fans have been asking for her since year 1, and she's doing the US festival circuit this year,in the past she's done one mainly US Festival year, and one mainly Summer festival year. If Florence is willing to play thursday (which she would be I bet, if you ever read or see an interview with her she is super down to earth) Firefly will make it happen. One of the critiques last year was that Local Natives was not the most accessible "headliner" for thursday night, even though their set was amazing. Florence would definitely be an accessible way to deal with thursday night.
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