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Definitely not Spoon. They've been around since the late 90's, and they're too well-established to play on Thursday. I don't think HAIM would be in that spot either. They only have one album, but they played an early afternoon set on the second biggest stage on Sunday in 2013. I can't imagine them being demoted to Thursday. Maybe an act like Sylvan Esso, Jungle, Glass Animals, or Mac DeMarco (if they're on the bill).
Spoon is billed pretty low on Roo's lineup and last year I saw them at Primavera playing around 5:30 PM and the headliners don't come on til midnight. I also think you are undervaluing Local Natives. They get radio play all the time here in Virginia Beach with Breakers and less frequently with Airplanes and have sold out 2 shows at the 9:30 Club in March 2013 when I saw them. Both albums are pretty well received as well.
Low? They're billed 16th out of roughly 100 acts. For comparison, the 16th billed acts at Firefly the past two years were Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros and Girl Talk.
I think it is a complete FAIL for Firefly to have The Killers as a headliner. They are not relevant anymore and haven't released good music in a very long time. This would be extremely disappointing and a huge drop off from last year. Don't get me wrong Paul McCartney would be epic and would be the best headliner at any festival this summer...but after him Kings Of Leon and The Killers? That's not very good. Some people are raving about that lineup but come on, really? Paul yes, the rest no way. I hope the rumors aren't true about the killers.
I guess the question is who else would headline? Looking around the festivals, I still feel it's the strongest headliners of any festival. Pearl Jam it's looking like wasn't looking to do a festival this year, Jack White wasn't an option, Foo Fighters were last year, Florence + the Machines is out of the country etc. Really just not a ton of great options for headliners.
I don't really understand how Jack White wasn't an option. I mean that would be a lineup Paul McCartney | Jack White | Who Cares (ie KoL)
I think it is a complete FAIL for Firefly to have The Killers as a headliner. They are not relevant anymore and haven't released good music in a very long time. This would be extremely disappointing and a huge drop off from last year. Don't get me wrong Paul McCartney would be epic and would be the best headliner at any festival this summer...but after him Kings Of Leon and The Killers? That's not very good. Some people are raving about that lineup but come on, really? Paul yes, the rest no way. I hope the rumors aren't true about the killers.
Have you ever seen them live?
I actually saw them live at The National in Richmond, VA the day before Firefly 2012. If your not familiar its a 1500 capacity venue and I got insanely lucky getting a ticket. Now most shows in this situation I have seen at The National where bigger bands humble themselves and play there for a small, intimate crowd of fans have been some of the greatest concerts Ive ever experienced. The National in May 2013 was unforgettable. Weezer in April 2014 was awesome. Foo Fighters in Sept 2014 was insane. The Killers....disappointing. I don't know what it was, maybe cause I watch Live At Royal Albert Hall a week before, but I was expecting something awesome from these Las Vegas showmen. Instead Flowers said barely anything to the audience and was just not energetic. I felt like they were just doing a warmup soundcheck for Firefly. I know his mom passed 2 years before and maybe he was getting back on the horse or who knows maybe he just thrives off of a larger crowd but darn what a disappointment.
Post by bigsnapple on Jan 15, 2015 12:33:03 GMT -5
I just think there are other more relevant bands/artists out there that would be a lot more appealing than The Killers. Maybe it's because i'm not a big fan of them but are they a headline worthy band? It just doesn't sound right to me. It feels like Firefly is just settling for them.
I just think there are other more relevant bands/artists out there that would be a lot more appealing than The Killers. Maybe it's because i'm not a big fan of them but are they a headline worthy band? It just doesn't sound right to me. It feels like Firefly is just settling for them.
They're certainly big enough to headline (they headlined every festival they played between 2012 and 2014). The logic I don't understand is booking them only three years after they last played, with no new albums released since 2012. I'm guessing they were simply an inexepensive option that was always on the table.
Spoon is billed pretty low on Roo's lineup and last year I saw them at Primavera playing around 5:30 PM and the headliners don't come on til midnight. I also think you are undervaluing Local Natives. They get radio play all the time here in Virginia Beach with Breakers and less frequently with Airplanes and have sold out 2 shows at the 9:30 Club in March 2013 when I saw them. Both albums are pretty well received as well.
Low? They're billed 16th out of roughly 100 acts. For comparison, the 16th billed acts at Firefly the past two years were Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros and Girl Talk.
And Local Natives was billed 20th last year, I honestly just don't see how the jump to Spoon would be unexpected. Also unfortunately Spoon doesn't get any radio time here for They Want My Soul so maybe in my mind Im just biased to thinking of Local Natives more popular than they actually are and Spoon less popular than they actually are.
Low? They're billed 16th out of roughly 100 acts. For comparison, the 16th billed acts at Firefly the past two years were Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros and Girl Talk.
And Local Natives was billed 20th last year, I honestly just don't see how the jump to Spoon would be unexpected. Also unfortunately Spoon doesn't get any radio time here for They Want My Soul so maybe in my mind Im just biased to thinking of Local Natives more popular than they actually are and Spoon less popular than they actually are.
As I said before, Spoon is a well-established band that's been around since the late 90's. Local Natives was still more of an up-and-coming act, and their last album was their first big commercially successful album. To be honest, I'm still kind of surprised that they even played on Thursday. Usually, Thursday acts for a 4-day festival are even smaller.
there is a big difference playing 16ht at roo compared to 20th at firefly. do you really think Spoon would be billed behind someone like Grouplove?
Ughh...no one should be billed behind Grouplove. Point taken.
Does anyone know how much it costs to get Jack White over The Killers price? I heard that The Raconteurs are cheaper than Jack White alone. That would be pretty rad 3rd headliner in my eyes and a bit inspired compared to these other lineups.
there is a big difference playing 16ht at roo compared to 20th at firefly. do you really think Spoon would be billed behind someone like Grouplove?
Ughh...no one should be billed behind Grouplove. Point taken.
Does anyone know how much it costs to get Jack White over The Killers price? I heard that The Raconteurs are cheaper than Jack White alone. That would be pretty rad 3rd headliner in my eyes and a bit inspired compared to these other lineups.
It'd just be too late in the game for that to happen. While there are minor changes, most of these lineups have likely been done for a couple months.
My favorite thus far is probably Coachella. I don't love it, but it's the best out of a poor field. Their headliners aren't my cup of tea, but they booked a nicely nuanced undercard that, while retaining some of the standard festival filler acts every fest is dealing with these days, also highlights plenty of creative bookings.
And Shaky Knees put together a killer lineup with a smaller budget than any of these fests.
If Sunday of Coachella wasn't so stellar, I'd say Shaky Knees has the best US lineup this year. Sunday alone of Coachella would still be my favorite lineup of 2015
That's only because you're still hung up on the Strokes as a great band.
And Sunday is easily the worst day on that Coachella lineup. It's okay, another 6 months and I'm sure you'll understand.
Ughh...no one should be billed behind Grouplove. Point taken.
Does anyone know how much it costs to get Jack White over The Killers price? I heard that The Raconteurs are cheaper than Jack White alone. That would be pretty rad 3rd headliner in my eyes and a bit inspired compared to these other lineups.
It'd just be too late in the game for that to happen. While there are minor changes, most of these lineups have likely been done for a couple months.
Oh I know, I was just curious. I honestly 100% believe everything Launchpad has said and that these are our set headliners but damn if I'd like to think of what other choices they had that made them go with The Killers. Also is it strangely weird how quiet Firefly's facebook/twitter accounts have been. I mean I swear they post more when they don't have anything to announce. They would blow up my feed with random pictures almost every other day in the fall.
there is a big difference playing 16ht at roo compared to 20th at firefly. do you really think Spoon would be billed behind someone like Grouplove?
Ughh...no one should be billed behind Grouplove. Point taken.
Does anyone know how much it costs to get Jack White over The Killers price? I heard that The Raconteurs are cheaper than Jack White alone. That would be pretty rad 3rd headliner in my eyes and a bit inspired compared to these other lineups.
This is the type of thing I'd look at as a promoter. Especially if you've got McCartney as a lock. You lose some financial flexibility but then again once that info gets out, you've bought some time and extra patience from people that were on the fence about going. I've got faith in the undercard potential just because it appears the strategy may be to buy time and build the stoutest possible card. Plus I agree Raconteurs is always better than no Jack at all.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 15, 2015 13:04:13 GMT -5
I think most people would have agreed Jack White would have been the better option, but with Firefly partnered with Coachella, they probably didn't want to share headliners.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 15, 2015 13:15:42 GMT -5
A man can dream. Still have to cross Jack White off my bucket list as well. What I'm most curious about is how much Coachella overlaps because it'll make predicting Firefly's schedule for future years a whole lot easier if they start doing joint bookings on bands.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 15, 2015 13:27:35 GMT -5
It will be pretty brutal if they make us wait until February. While I don't doubt they'll have a solid lineup, I'm starting to think they're simply behind schedule finalizing the lineup.
Michael Greco (Mod for Firefly forums, kinda insiderish person) just reiterated that its slated for early February. I just feel like that can't be logical for their promoting team.
The Killers weren't an inspired pick, but they were a safe pick that wasn't going to get huge backlash like Drake or Kanye.
The killers are not a safe pick...they are a weak pick. I would personally much rather have Kanye than The Killers! You shouldn't even compare the two.
When you land Macca as your top headlners it only makes sense that one of them would be smaller.
I agree. But The Killers? They have what? 3 decent songs? I want to puke every time I hear Human. Firefly can do much better, I still believe the Killers won't be there.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 15, 2015 14:05:26 GMT -5
I'm not insulting Kanye or Drake at all. I haven't seen enough of their live stuff to make a personal judgment call on either, but I can say there would be the same type of backlash Bonnaroo had with Billy Joel and Kendrick Lamar. There's nothing glitzy about The Killers pick, but they aren't a terribly controversial pick either. That's all I'm saying.
Post by smokeringformyhalo on Jan 15, 2015 14:34:21 GMT -5
Personally I'm pulling for Modest Mouse, The Strokes, Death Cab, Tame Impala, The War on Drugs, and The Kooks. I'd be pretty thrilled if four of those were at FF this year, but I'm sure they'll have some good undercards either way, and it'll be a good time for most who attend.