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At this point I would not go back for 2 reasons: lineup isnt my style and they only gave us media passes, not photo with shitty access. Ill expand more in little while when on cpu and not phone
I'll start with access. Normally for our festival coverage I have a writer with me and I get a photo pass in addition to each of us with a media pass. We aren't big enough to get photo access, and also we were allowed into the artist lounge but not vip areas (security was letting us in until mid Friday as our access can and often does change on moments notice for the entire class). Larger and national publications got the photo and or vip access.
I'm not trying to sound like an elitist snob but I rely on that access to do my job. When I have photo access I use vip 80% for shortcuts and 20% for quick rests as I don't have the luxury of going back to camp for a while to relax. Without the photo pass I would need vip to easily take shots of bands from a reasonable distance. The artist lounge did offer free drink from water, soda, beer, and top shelf liquor. We had to go through the vip area to get to the artist lounge which created a fun issue for security. I asked if I could trade artist lounge for vip and they said no.
Which brings us to the lineup. Nothing at all wrong with it but it didn't suit my tastes. I didn't know a lot of bands going in and I don't like to listen ahead of time because I want my first impression to be them live. So happens a lot weren't my style. If I had the access to properly work this wouldn't be an issue. As a result the saving grace was the free liquor which I also wouldn't do as I won't shoot drunk being I'm afraid to smack my camera into a pole or something.
Have to also mention Walk off the Earth was Fucking Amazing!!
Bros-Yes there were tons. On that none every person I interacted with was awesome bro or not.
Weird security incident-They tried to tell me I couldn't bring in my spray sunscreen. I was willing to fight that all the way to the top if necessary but another worker came over and said let him bring it
So you went to a festival with a free photo and media pass, got upset because your free passes that included free booze did not let into the VIP areas, and you knew very little about the bands playing, though you were ostensibly there to help promote the festival and the bands in question?
1. I didnt have photo pass. Regular (lower tier)media pass 2. If I am there on a free media pass I am there to work which means get the best photos I can. The closer shooting spots get better pics and shortcuts allowing me to get between stages faster is MUCH more important then free drinks. The better access they give me the better job I can do to make the fest look good. 3. I am the photographer of the team. It isnt necessary or relevant for me to have an extensive knowledge of the lineup, my writer covers that.
So you went to a festival with a free photo and media pass, got upset because your free passes that included free booze did not let into the VIP areas, and you knew very little about the bands playing, though you were ostensibly there to help promote the festival and the bands in question?
1. I didnt have photo pass. Regular (lower tier)media pass 2. If I am there on a free media pass I am there to work which means get the best photos I can. The closer shooting spots get better pics and shortcuts allowing me to get between stages faster is MUCH more important then free drinks. The better access they give me the better job I can do to make the fest look good. 3. I am the photographer of the team. It isnt necessary or relevant for me to have an extensive knowledge of the lineup, my writer covers that.
All good points. I will not go unless I have pit access. It just isn't worth it to me. Free booze may sound awesome...but does little good when you have to shoot all day. Deep knowledge of the bands is not a must to take good photos. Although watching a few live performances before the shoot helps with timimg.
Note:please dont take all this as me bashing firefly.
1. Make sure you like the lineup before going to a fest as a fan. If the lineup was one that I would have chosen as a fan I probably would still be raving about it to this day. We decided to apply for it because it is huge and close. We did like a good many bands going in but as luck of the draw turned out most of the unknowns werent for me. I ended up taking only 350 total pictures all weekend when I would often top that in one set from photo pit. The dust kept me from shooting the grounds so I was really limited.
2. I will now not shoot a fest without photo access. If allowed I could have done very well from vip without pit access here but not worth risk.
3. Do not miss Walk Off The Earth if you have a chance to see them!
So you went to a festival with a free photo and media pass, got upset because your free passes that included free booze did not let into the VIP areas, and you knew very little about the bands playing, though you were ostensibly there to help promote the festival and the bands in question?
1. I didnt have photo pass. Regular (lower tier)media pass 2. If I am there on a free media pass I am there to work which means get the best photos I can. The closer shooting spots get better pics and shortcuts allowing me to get between stages faster is MUCH more important then free drinks. The better access they give me the better job I can do to make the fest look good. 3. I am the photographer of the team. It isnt necessary or relevant for me to have an extensive knowledge of the lineup, my writer covers that.
If your day job is photographing shows I guess you have a point, otherwise I am less sympathetic to your plight. Especially the parts about not getting to rest up in the VIP areas.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
I feel the rest aspect is very important. We left camp to get inside the concert area a few minutes before thw first act started and didnt head back to camp until the last act of the late night had at least played some of their set. We also do a lot more traveling between stages then most fans. Every conflict means split sets even if on opposite ends. How many people can do noon to 2am without needing to sit down at least a few minutes here and there?
I do media/photo at plenty of festival and I'm always bummed when we aren't allowed access to VIP areas. Just because I'm there working and "promoting" the festival, doesn't mean I don't want to take a load off every once in a while, watch a show from a close un-crowded area, piss/shit in a clean air conditioned bathroom, or have quick access to drinks or food.
Might wanna add AWOLNATION to that speculation list. The title of that FF article from the new site is a direct quote of one of their songs and they'd be a logical fit.
Might wanna add AWOLNATION to that speculation list. The title of that FF article from the new site is a direct quote of one of their songs and they'd be a logical fit.
@gambit88 How accurate is this top six minus the headliners we know? The Strokes | Skrillex | Frank Ocean | Florence + The Machine | Lorde | Tame Impala
I have absolutely 0 insider info and I can tell you there's a close to absolute 0% chance The Strokes and Florence are booked.
I'll also chime in on security and say no issues again as long as you aren't an idiot. There are some uniformed officers inside but they seemed to be having a great time time too. Having a nascar event a week or two before makes them appreciate the festival crowd. Bring the regular sunscreen vs the spray sunscreen. They specifically stated that rule on the website but people were still surprised they couldn't get it in. (Though they did sell it inside) Sure there are bro's but everyone really is friendly. No wooks to be seen either.
I'd recommend anyone considering it and can swing the extra day to do Premier camping. For an extra $20 you're saving yourself tons of walking when you'll already do enough in the festival. I'd say its as close if not closer than 'tent only' camping at Bonnaroo.
Post by Swedish Chef on Jan 16, 2015 8:51:25 GMT -5
I sincerely hope Firefly didn't spend all that effort booking Sir Paul only to turn around and fill the undercard with acts along the lines of Ed Sheeran, Fun., and Bastille. That would be such a freaking waste.
@gambit88 How accurate is this top six minus the headliners we know? The Strokes | Skrillex | Frank Ocean | Florence + The Machine | Lorde | Tame Impala
I have absolutely 0 insider info and I can tell you there's a close to absolute 0% chance The Strokes and Florence are booked.
i wish people would jsut do a quuck look up to see if band are actually available before specuatling them
I sincerely hope Firefly didn't spend all that effort booking Sir Paul only to turn around and fill the undercard with acts along the lines of Ed Sheeran, Fun., and Bastille. That would be such a freaking waste.
Where's the positive attitude man!? Good things come to those who wait Keep that glass half-full mentality brotha! Firefly is going to come through!
Post by Jeremy Jamm on Jan 16, 2015 9:42:55 GMT -5
You can't please everyone but I think in general the undercard won't disappoint. I just can't see them waiting this long (still signing artists!) to put out the lineup for it to be a dud. They are the only big festival aside from anything that is way later in the year to not release their lineup. Everyone has their eyes out for it now. It's go big or go home for RedFrog. Put up or shut up. You want to be a 2 week festival like Coachella? This is the year you have to blow it out of the water.
i think you are overselling just a bit. All eyes arent on Firefly right now like they were on Bonaroo and Coachella, the majority of the eyes are just people who are planning on going already or need a lineup first.
You can't please everyone but I think in general the undercard won't disappoint. I just can't see them waiting this long (still signing artists!) to put out the lineup for it to be a dud. They are the only big festival aside from anything that is way later in the year to not release their lineup. Everyone has their eyes out for it now. It's go big or go home for RedFrog. Put up or shut up. You want to be a 2 week festival like Coachella? This is the year you have to blow it out of the water.
They got the front man of the biggest band of all time. They already went big. If you want ideas on the undercard look at the previous two weeks of festivals. It isn't too much different other than a handful of acts.
I sincerely hope Firefly didn't spend all that effort booking Sir Paul only to turn around and fill the undercard with acts along the lines of Ed Sheeran, Fun., and Bastille. That would be such a freaking waste.
Those would be huge gets and would sell a shit load of tickets.
I sincerely hope Firefly didn't spend all that effort booking Sir Paul only to turn around and fill the undercard with acts along the lines of Ed Sheeran, Fun., and Bastille. That would be such a freaking waste.
Those would be huge gets and would sell a shit load of tickets.
Oh, I'm sure they would help sell a boatload of tickets for any festival. I'd just prefer different/better quality acts.
i wish people would jsut do a quuck look up to see if band are actually available before specuatling them
That and the fact that I really can't see The Strokes ever taking a #4 billing behind The Killers and Kings of Leon.
Eh, they were billed 4th at Gov Ball behind Vampire Weekend, and their stock has most likely fallen since they last their last round of large festival headlining gigs, so I'm not sure they would necessarily be in the top 3 at Firefly.
You can't please everyone but I think in general the undercard won't disappoint. I just can't see them waiting this long (still signing artists!) to put out the lineup for it to be a dud. They are the only big festival aside from anything that is way later in the year to not release their lineup. Everyone has their eyes out for it now. It's go big or go home for RedFrog. Put up or shut up. You want to be a 2 week festival like Coachella? This is the year you have to blow it out of the water.
They got the front man of the biggest band of all time. They already went big. If you want ideas on the undercard look at the previous two weeks of festivals. It isn't too much different other than a handful of acts.
Well, that's somewhat reassuring. Should we expect any returning acts from 2012 and 2013? (not asking you to name artists specifically)
Launchpad liked my post about AWOLNATION, so I'd say they're looking very strong at this point. Saw them at Made in America this past summer, a solid show and would definitely recommend if you don't have any conflicts when they play.
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Post by Not Jeff Goldblum on Jan 16, 2015 11:33:35 GMT -5
I feel like Passion Pit is going to be back this year. They are playing festivals and considering that Firefly is booking return acts they seem to be a logical fit somewhere in the undercard.
You can't please everyone but I think in general the undercard won't disappoint. I just can't see them waiting this long (still signing artists!) to put out the lineup for it to be a dud. They are the only big festival aside from anything that is way later in the year to not release their lineup. Everyone has their eyes out for it now. It's go big or go home for RedFrog. Put up or shut up. You want to be a 2 week festival like Coachella? This is the year you have to blow it out of the water.
They got the front man of the biggest band of all time. They already went big. If you want ideas on the undercard look at the previous two weeks of festivals. It isn't too much different other than a handful of acts.
hey man, if you can just confirm War on Drugs and Sturgill Simpson that'll be it for me, I'll know which festival I'm going to this Summer.
I do media/photo at plenty of festival and I'm always bummed when we aren't allowed access to VIP areas. Just because I'm there working and "promoting" the festival, doesn't mean I don't want to take a load off every once in a while, watch a show from a close un-crowded area, piss/shit in a clean air conditioned bathroom, or have quick access to drinks or food.
Yes I am sure everyone working or attending would like that, like I said I just find it hard to be sympathetic to that particular want.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
I feel like Passion Pit is going to be back this year. They are playing festivals and considering that Firefly is booking return acts they seem to be a logical fit somewhere in the undercard.
Please God, no. They are so bad live it's not even funny. Might even be worse than KOL or The Lumineers.
what? Passion Pit was awesome live when i saw them in 2013. and no one is KOL bad live
I saw em at roo in 2013 and the lead singer couldn't hit a single note. I was cringing just listening. Not to mention they ended the set 20 minutes early.