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Post by Swedish Chef on Mar 10, 2015 11:43:35 GMT -5
I think a lot of people here are underestimating Morrissey and judging him by his personality rather than by his musical ability. I'm not a huge fan myself, but he's arguably the 2nd most influential artist on this lineup. Morrissey was one of the earliest pioneers of the modern-day indie/alternative genre. Sure, he only plays a few Smiths songs live, but his solo output is actually pretty darn good. And based on the videos I've watched on youtube, he will most likely put on a solid performance (provided he actually shows up).
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Because the general public has terrible taste in music compared to the people on this forum. Also, Americans love cheese (both the EDM and the food varieties).
Steve Aoki can't mix live. "All style and no substance" is actually the perfect way to describe it because he just has stage antics that distract you from the fact that he's usually not doing anything. I found this - www.quora.com/DJing/What-is-Steve-Aoki-actually-doing-when-he-is-on-stage - and he completely dodges the question entirely.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
I know this doesn't have anything to do with Firefly, but a couple of hours ago, Tame Impala posted on their instagram to get some good speakers or headphones ready. Gotta say I'm pretty excited for hopefully the first song off their new album.
I don't have an "avoid" list. I use spotify to become familiar with most of the bands general sounds but I don't actively start planning my day until a schedule comes out. I'm keeping it pretty simple with Run the Jewels and Paul Mccartney being my only two 'must-sees' this year. I obviously am excited for a lot of other acts but I'm going to wait for a schedule before I get too worked up about it. Even bands that I don't care for I sometimes stop in just to see what the hype is about if my schedule allows it.
I actually recommend people to check out shows they wouldn't otherwise especially at a festival when you have no additional financial burden to see them. I was never into EDM but I decided to buy tickets to Swedish House Mafia's farewell tour at MSG on a whim and was blown away so I have tried to check out a bit more EDM at festivals.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
So in conclusion... Aoki sounds like an 8-year old with his first Casio, and the other stuff is actually music. Point well made, thanks!
I don't have an "avoid" list. I use spotify to become familiar with most of the bands general sounds but I don't actively start planning my day until a schedule comes out. I'm keeping it pretty simple with Run the Jewels and Paul Mccartney being my only two 'must-sees' this year. I obviously am excited for a lot of other acts but I'm going to wait for a schedule before I get too worked up about it. Even bands that I don't care for I sometimes stop in just to see what the hype is about if my schedule allows it.
I'm pretty much the same, but I'm adding Modest Mouse and Kid Cudi to my 'must sees'. I'm not carrying high expectations into the Cudi set, just because of what people from the board has said about previous shows...but I got to see it. I'm to familiar with his material to not go.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
Steve Aoki is the worst, but comparing him to Caribou is silly. Completely different styles of music.
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
So in conclusion... Aoki sounds like an 8-year old with his first Casio, and the other stuff is actually music. Point well made, thanks!
You are correct, sir.
Ugh except now I just made myself sad again that FF didn't snag Caribou. Or SBTRKT
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Okay, I will gladly answer this question, and ask for you to do a little exercise alongside my answer. Aoki is the epitome of what people who only know mainstream cheese EDM acts complain about: that he just plays a button and bounces up and down and calls that a "live performance." His cake throwing shtick was ridiculous but at least set him apart in one measly way - now he doesn't even have that. His "musical sound" is hardly music; it is just noise, with horns blaring and beats all over the place and no musicality to it.
Now, for the exercise, I am going to ask you to listen to two super solid electronic tracks, with some Aoki squeezed in between the two.
First, go listen to "Silver" by Caribou. Next, check out any of Aoki's most popular tracks on spotify. Idk, "RAge the Night Away" or "Boneless." Then, third choice: "It's Only" by Odesza.
Okay, admittedly that probably isn't an entirely fair comparison exercise because Odesza and Caribou are a very different type of electronic music than Aoki...but honestly, even compare "Spectrum" by Zedd (also considered "cheese" by some but IMO a much much more successful version of it) to Aoki's shit.
Steve Aoki is the worst, but comparing him to Caribou is silly. Completely different styles of music.
Yes, I know. At the end, I specified that it wasn't a fair comparison really, but he said he didn't really know electronic music and wanted to know good vs. bad. So I handed him some Caribou. And then made sure to explain that I don't think they're similar styles of electro at all
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Steve Aoki is the worst, but comparing him to Caribou is silly. Completely different styles of music.
Yes, I know. At the end, I specified that it wasn't a fair comparison really, but he said he didn't really know electronic music and wanted to know good vs. bad. So I handed him some Caribou. And then made sure to explain that I don't think they're similar styles of electro at all
A fair comparison would be DJs that also have their music geared towards a live setting but don't use gimmicks and SICK DROPS like Dixon, Jamie Jones, or even the tracks James Blake has been putting out lately.
And yeah sorry for jumping the gun on the criticism
Yes, I know. At the end, I specified that it wasn't a fair comparison really, but he said he didn't really know electronic music and wanted to know good vs. bad. So I handed him some Caribou. And then made sure to explain that I don't think they're similar styles of electro at all
A fair comparison would be DJs that also have their music geared towards a live setting but don't use gimmicks and SICK DROPS like Dixon, Jamie Jones, or even the tracks James Blake has been putting out lately.
And yeah sorry for jumping the gun on the criticism
James Blake's DJ shit is fantastic. Even though I love the album "Overgrown" above all his other stuff. But even just hearing his name makes me immediately think of my (quite recent) ex, sooooo, I haven't been listening to much JB recently.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Because the general public has terrible taste in music compared to the people on this forum. Also, Americans love cheese (both the EDM and the food varieties).
Are you being serious? What gives you the right to say anyone outside of this forum doesn't have good taste in music. Everyone likes their own stuff, respect that. You're such a joke man. I literally laugh every time I read one of your posts.
Because the general public has terrible taste in music compared to the people on this forum. Also, Americans love cheese (both the EDM and the food varieties).
Are you being serious? What gives you the right to say anyone outside of this forum doesn't have good taste in music. Everyone likes their own stuff, respect that. You're such a joke man. I literally laugh every time I read one of your posts.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Aoki was fine back in 2012 and prior years (No Beef, Pursuit of Happiness). The more mainstream EDM got, the worse he became. Dim Mak is pretty well respected as an EDM record label though.
I doubt it. This guy just seems to loathe me because we had a simple disagreement about artists when he first joined. He comes out of the woodwork once every two or three weeks to try to pick a fight with me and hurl personal insults at me. It's actually kind of flattering, but in a weird, stalkerish way.
I doubt it. This guy just seems to loathe me because we had a simple disagreement about artists when he first joined. He comes out of the woodwork every once every two or three weeks to try to pick a fight with me and hurl personal insults at me. It's actually kind of flattering, but in a weird, stalkerish way.
Awwww he has a cRuSh.
Also major lol that he thought your post was offensive/rude to, what, the general public? The people of the world with bad music taste? Your post wasn't even directed at anyone in particular OR rude.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Honest question from someone who knows very little about EDM... Why does everyone hate Aoki? How is he so popular if seemingly everyone dislikes him??
Aoki was fine back in 2012 and prior years (No Beef, Pursuit of Happiness). The more mainstream EDM got, the worse he became. Dim Mak is pretty well respected as an EDM record label though.
This statement ^^. I saw him right after his Wonderland release, was a fun concert, I enjoyed it. His new stuff can't hold a candle to what his old stuff and I way prefer artists like Tritonal, Armin, Arty, Porter Robinson, Deadmau5, etc. to new Steve Aoki. If Aoki is pitted against no one, of course I'm gonna go, but I hope White Panda or Chainsmokers are pitted against him so I can be part of a smaller crowd hopefully.
Because the general public has terrible taste in music compared to the people on this forum. Also, Americans love cheese (both the EDM and the food varieties).
Are you being serious? What gives you the right to say anyone outside of this forum doesn't have good taste in music. Everyone likes their own stuff, respect that. You're such a joke man. I literally laugh every time I read one of your posts.
Probably because it's common sense? People that post on a forum dedicated to a music festival will be more likely to listen to more critically respected music instead of whatever is being marketed by companies with the most $$$.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.