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As Launchpad noted, contracts generally have a radius clause and based upon the fact that both My Morning Jacket and Florence + the Machine both are all but eliminated from Firefly, it's probably safe to eliminate the top couple lines of Gov. Ball.
2012 only had an attendance of 25,000 people, so it's not really fair to call any of those bands repeats. If there are enough people putting bands like Twenty One Pilots on their request list, I don't see the problem (though the guys really need to work on making some new music). They're only around $25,000 to book last check and they always draw a crowd, which is 1/10 the cost of KoL that a lot of people are indifferent about.
I've always been about the bands after the first couple lines though, so I will be pretty disappointed if Firefly doesn't manage to snag bands so many festivals have gotten, like The War on Drugs, Hozier, Royal Blood, Benjamin Booker, SBTRKT, Belle & Sebastian etc.
Im praying for at least Royal Blood from that list. Theyre still not that big here so i bet itd be a somewhat small crowd
I wouldn't count on it. They have shows in the UK on Friday, June 19th and Saturday, June 20th (they're opening for Foo Fighters).
I was really shocked OutKast didnt even have a Philly show and i thought once the tour was announced they would be at Made In America but took a fest in Ireland instead. I am 99.9% sure OutKast is done but do you think there is any shot they play again somewhere in 2015?
I don't think so. If you read Andre's interviews since their run ended, he absolutely hated that tour. Never say never, but if I had to bet I think last year was the end of Outkast.
Not sure if any of you saw but at FF Andre came out wearing a shirt with a "For Sale" sign on it and then later on in the concert changed his tag to "Sold". Thought it might have been symbolic of how he felt that tour was Outkast "selling out" for more cash
I don't think so. If you read Andre's interviews since their run ended, he absolutely hated that tour. Never say never, but if I had to bet I think last year was the end of Outkast.
Yea I agree. It was clear Dre hated it since he was wearing the Sold Out tag on his outfits lol. Was hoping they would do Hov a solid and play MIA Philly since they didnt play here at all last year. But either way I got to see em and the show fucking rocked so im cool.
I don't think so. If you read Andre's interviews since their run ended, he absolutely hated that tour. Never say never, but if I had to bet I think last year was the end of Outkast.
Not sure if any of you saw but at FF Andre came out wearing a shirt with a "For Sale" sign on it and then later on in the concert changed his tag to "Sold". Thought it might have been symbolic of how he felt that tour was Outkast "selling out" for more cash
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 21, 2015 14:57:04 GMT -5
They did kind of sell out in all fairness. I think there were more festivals that had Outkast than didn't have them, but I'd gladly collect the paycheck myself.
i remember reading they made a few mil more palying about 7 less shows in 2014 compared to the last tour they did, something along those lines. They didnt have to whore out like that but im sure once word got around it kicked up their price tag to the point they almost had to.
Im praying for at least Royal Blood from that list. Theyre still not that big here so i bet itd be a somewhat small crowd
I wouldn't count on it. They have shows in the UK on Friday, June 19th and Saturday, June 20th (they're opening for Foo Fighters).
Ah damn that sucks. I was really looking forward to them since theyre at like every US festival. Maybe they could be the Thursday night headliner since the 18th for them is free
Nine or so repeat bands out of something like 243 (don't have time to double check the math) is not relying too much on repeat acts.
Twenty One Pilots were brought back due to popular demand. White Panda and Girl Talk are fairly inexpensive late night acts to rival the other late night stages. The Lumineers had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Passion Pit had to cancel last minute so they brought them back. Imagine Dragons were booked prior to them exploding, so the seventeen people that had the good fortune of seeing them in 2012 probably didn't mind them coming back. Big G was probably brought back due to popular demand, too.
And Grouplove rock, they can bring them back every year.
So forgive me, but something like 3.5% of acts being repeat is not very high at all for a festival going into it's fourth year.
Ok, I'll agree that my wording was a bit strong. I guess I have mixed feelings on bringing a band back after they had to cancel the previous year. While it was great for the fans who were looking forward to seeing them the previous year, acts like Imagine Dragons and The Lumineers began to feel very "stale" on the festival circuit by 2014. They were everywhere in 2012 and 2013, and by the time 2014 came around, I think there were much better alternatives for their respective spots on the lineup. Perhaps I got that impression that Firefly loves to book repeats from social media. It's kind of absurd how many people keep asking for the same acts year after year after year.
Ha! With you on that, newcomers chime in and create must sees and wish lists that are pretty much the previous year's lineup. And totally with you on The Lumineers, I urmmm, had the (good?) fortune of seeing them at Gov Ball when they cancelled Firefly. So slow, way too much time between songs, really didn't seem like they were ready for the big breakthrough that people were rooting for. Needless to say I was cool with them dropping off that year, then sure enough my friends wanted to see them last year and didn't believe what I had to say.. one year later they were still as slow and boring as ever.
PS this isn't to say I can't appreciate slower type music, really dig Jack Johnson. Just think The Lumineers sound better in my headphones than on a stage.
Saw this on the firefly message board: "Clearly fake. Walk The Moon has a show at the TLA in Phila. on 4/12. The TLA is a Live Nation venue. It would violate the 90/90 clause (not to announce a non-Live Nation show within 90 days and 90 miles) of that show under contract. WTM would have likely assented to in relation to their 4/12 show. Since FF is Red Frog/Golden Voice, it would be violative of their agreement to play FF, and/ or be announced on the original line-up card."
Does this mean that Walk The Moon would not be able to play at Firefly? I didn't really understand what they were trying to say. I would be very disappointed if they are not going to be at Firefly.
Saw this on the firefly message board: "Clearly fake. Walk The Moon has a show at the TLA in Phila. on 4/12. The TLA is a Live Nation venue. It would violate the 90/90 clause (not to announce a non-Live Nation show within 90 days and 90 miles) of that show under contract. WTM would have likely assented to in relation to their 4/12 show. Since FF is Red Frog/Golden Voice, it would be violative of their agreement to play FF, and/ or be announced on the original line-up card."
Does this mean that Walk The Moon would not be able to play at Firefly? I didn't really understand what they were trying to say. I would be very disappointed if they are not going to be at Firefly.
I'm not sure how Live Nation exclusivity clauses work, so I can't comment on that. I will say this though: If that's the biggest problem he/she has with regard to the legitimacy of the posted lineup mock, he/she was obviously not paying much attention to the fact that multiple acts are misspelled and Modest Mouse is billed 18th.
Saw this on the firefly message board: "Clearly fake. Walk The Moon has a show at the TLA in Phila. on 4/12. The TLA is a Live Nation venue. It would violate the 90/90 clause (not to announce a non-Live Nation show within 90 days and 90 miles) of that show under contract. WTM would have likely assented to in relation to their 4/12 show. Since FF is Red Frog/Golden Voice, it would be violative of their agreement to play FF, and/ or be announced on the original line-up card."
Does this mean that Walk The Moon would not be able to play at Firefly? I didn't really understand what they were trying to say. I would be very disappointed if they are not going to be at Firefly.
I'm not sure how Live Nation exclusivity clauses work, so I can't comment on that. I will say this though: If that's the biggest problem he/she has with regard to the legitimacy of the posted lineup mock, he/she was obviously not paying much attention to the fact that multiple acts are misspelled and Modest Mouse is billed 18th.
It is hilarious how of the lineup a technicality is what gave it away for the original poster on the Firefly board. I would be a bit disappointed not to see Walk the Moon. They don't seem to be getting any festival love this year.
I'm not sure how Live Nation exclusivity clauses work, so I can't comment on that. I will say this though: If that's the biggest problem he/she has with regard to the legitimacy of the posted lineup mock, he/she was obviously not paying much attention to the fact that multiple acts are misspelled and Modest Mouse is billed 18th.
It is hilarious how of the lineup a technicality is what gave it away for the original poster on the Firefly board. I would be a bit disappointed not to see Walk the Moon. They don't seem to be getting any festival love this year.
Are WTM playing at any festivals this year? I had the opportunity to see them this Saturday but I have to work so if they don't play at Firefly, I will be super disappointed.
It is hilarious how of the lineup a technicality is what gave it away for the original poster on the Firefly board. I would be a bit disappointed not to see Walk the Moon. They don't seem to be getting any festival love this year.
Are WTM playing at any festivals this year? I had the opportunity to see them this Saturday but I have to work so if they don't play at Firefly, I will be super disappointed.
Based on short research, there last show currently scheduled is early May.
I keep forgetting about Firefly with the lineup not being released.
I've gone to every one so far so the wait is killing me. That's why I scour around here for more info. I'd love to hit Bonnaroo this year but the venture is a bit too costly for me.
With Shaky Knees looking like a good option for me, I am not as nervous for this lineup. I will more than likely be going no matter what. I am already excited for Sir Paul, The Killers, and Snoop Dog. Throw 3 out of these 5 in and I would be very happy: Ratatat/Spoon/Run The Jewels/Foster The People/St. Vincent
Walk The Moon is palying in Philly for free this weekend and they come back in April so i dont see how it benefits them to play Firefly after having 2 shows here when Deleware is only a little over an hour away. If the fest came first it would make more sense from a promo standpoint.
With Shaky Knees looking like a good option for me, I am not as nervous for this lineup. I will more than likely be going no matter what. I am already excited for Sir Paul, The Killers, and Snoop Dog. Throw 3 out of these 5 in and I would be very happy: Ratatat/Spoon/Run The Jewels/Foster The People/St. Vincent
I don't think foster the people will be there but the other four seem very possible.
With Shaky Knees looking like a good option for me, I am not as nervous for this lineup. I will more than likely be going no matter what. I am already excited for Sir Paul, The Killers, and Snoop Dog. Throw 3 out of these 5 in and I would be very happy: Ratatat/Spoon/Run The Jewels/Foster The People/St. Vincent
With Shaky Knees looking like a good option for me, I am not as nervous for this lineup. I will more than likely be going no matter what. I am already excited for Sir Paul, The Killers, and Snoop Dog. Throw 3 out of these 5 in and I would be very happy: Ratatat/Spoon/Run The Jewels/Foster The People/St. Vincent
Besides, they're playing a show in Philadelphia less than a week after Firefly. When you take into account the size of the venues they play and the billing they would receive at a festival (they could easily headline), this is a scenario where the radius clause (Rory B. Bellows is going to hate me for this) would come into effect.
Post by bigsnapple on Jan 22, 2015 14:34:01 GMT -5
What are some hip-hop acts people would like to see at Firefly...besides Run The Jewels. Snoop Dogg would be pretty cool. I've seen The Roots on a bunch of lineups as well. Would be cool to see them.
Post by mjmazzarone on Jan 22, 2015 14:35:22 GMT -5
I'm more interested in knowing the under and mid card for FF considering the headliners are more or less confirmed. If the headliners are anything else than Macca/Killers/KoL, I'll be shocked.