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Seriously. So much flawed logic. First, who wouldn't release this in their personal account? I'd certainly want credit for this week. And I think this lineup is being given way too much authenticity credit. Whoever made it only had to make sure all 4-5 confirmed artists were on (tough one), nothing was spelled wrong, and use other lineups as a guide for billing. No one's offered any evidence further than "I think it's real because it looks good". Phi and the Owl sharing this doesn't make it any more authentic.
Regardless of whether it's legit or not it's hilarious watching people get so butthurt on the facebook page if their favorite band isn't there.
I did expect Firefly to diversify a bit more this year and it looks like they've done that. Certainly more repeats than I expected early on but when you're competing with some European festivals around the same time it's going to happen.
Also very odd not seeing a female towards the top of the lineup.
I would say close to half of the lineup features female vocalists which kind of irks me just because they can all be split into about three groups of sounding the same.
This year I think the European festivals had a major impact on Firefly's lineup. It's something that I think has been understated a bit.
What do you think would have happened if they had kept hosting the festival in late July as opposed to June? Do you think them keeping the july dates would have hurt/helped/not made a difference?
This year I think the European festivals had a major impact on Firefly's lineup. It's something that I think has been understated a bit.
What do you think would have happened if they had kept hosting the festival in late July as opposed to June? Do you think them keeping the july dates would have hurt/helped/not made a difference?
I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I know in the blog post one of the Firefly organizers acknowledged bands touring in Europe caused booking issues. They can't step on the toes of Coachella, Bonnaroo etc. with festival dates and even doing that with Gov. Ball would be bad business.
I don't think Firefly would want to risk pushing things back any further, but it seems like there were a few more conflicts this year with European festivals.
What do you think would have happened if they had kept hosting the festival in late July as opposed to June? Do you think them keeping the july dates would have hurt/helped/not made a difference?
I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I know in the blog post one of the Firefly organizers acknowledged bands touring in Europe caused booking issues. They can't step on the toes of Coachella, Bonnaroo etc. with festival dates and even doing that with Gov. Ball would be bad business.
I don't think Firefly would want to risk pushing things back any further, but it seems like there were a few more conflicts this year with European festivals.
I apologize, I wasn't very clear with my question. The first year of Firefly(2012) the festival was something like July 20-22. I guess I was just asking if you thought them changing the festival to June instead of July in year two would have affected them, positively or negatively.
I appreciate you are no specialist on this haha, there is no right or wrong I just thought it could be an interesting discussion.
I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I know in the blog post one of the Firefly organizers acknowledged bands touring in Europe caused booking issues. They can't step on the toes of Coachella, Bonnaroo etc. with festival dates and even doing that with Gov. Ball would be bad business.
I don't think Firefly would want to risk pushing things back any further, but it seems like there were a few more conflicts this year with European festivals.
I apologize, I wasn't very clear with my question. The first year of Firefly(2012) the festival was something like July 20-22. I guess I was just asking if you thought them changing the festival to June instead of July in year two would have affected them, positively or negatively.
I appreciate you are no specialist on this haha, there is no right or wrong I just thought it could be an interesting discussion.
Overall I think it was probably that right move. If Firefly wants to become the Coachella of the East coast and with people's desire for instant gratification it would make a two weekend festival a challenge. Austin City Limits is probably the exception to the rule.
I did maybe expect coming out swinging a little more this year, but McCartney was a bold move that will make booking the Pearl Jams and Elton Johns of the world easier in the future. If Sir Paul is good enough for Firefly, it makes the right type of statement.
I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I know in the blog post one of the Firefly organizers acknowledged bands touring in Europe caused booking issues. They can't step on the toes of Coachella, Bonnaroo etc. with festival dates and even doing that with Gov. Ball would be bad business.
I don't think Firefly would want to risk pushing things back any further, but it seems like there were a few more conflicts this year with European festivals.
I apologize, I wasn't very clear with my question. The first year of Firefly(2012) the festival was something like July 20-22. I guess I was just asking if you thought them changing the festival to June instead of July in year two would have affected them, positively or negatively.
I appreciate you are no specialist on this haha, there is no right or wrong I just thought it could be an interesting discussion.
It is likely they changed the date for venue reasons - the Woodlands is also home to big Nascar races twice a year. I think last year the race was a couple weekends before which may have enabled them to keep some of the infrastructure (RV setups, Portapotties etc.) in place - but this is pure speculation.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 24, 2015 12:23:19 GMT -5
I like the overall direction of the festival, even if I'm not in love with the rumored lineup. Being able to finally put in some permanent infrastructure and the decision to have a separate country festival will improve the quality of both Firefly and Big Barrel.
Of the top of my head, here are some acts that are either: a) touring/playing festivals, or b) will release a new album in 2015:
The Avett Brothers Pixies Alabama Shakes Death Cab For Cutie Passion Pit The Decemberists The Roots Belle & Sebastian Tame Impala St. Vincent The War On Drugs TV On The Radio Death From Above 1979 The New Pornographers Caribou Of Montreal Mac DeMarco Joey Bada$$ Real Estate Allah-Las Viet Cong
If I am not mistaken at least a few of these acts have already played firefly. Not that that has stopped them from rebooking - but just saying. I am pretty sure Passion pit, Alabama Shakes, Death Cab, Tame Impala have already come - again I may be wrong.
I know that doesn't make you feel better if you were hoping to see them - but they can't have a whole lineup full of repeats.
As far as I'm aware, the only repeats on that list are The Avett Brothers, Alabama Shakes, Passion Pit, and Death Cab For Cutie. I'm not saying all of these should have been there, but if they were going to book repeat acts, one of these would more sense than Foster the People (who toured everywhere last year and played four songs from the new album the last time they were at Firefly). Also, I still can't understand the logic behind booking Cage The Elephant in consecutive years.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 24, 2015 12:44:02 GMT -5
I didn't see Cage the Elephant last year, but I'm guessing they were this year's equivalent of Twenty One Pilots, as a fan favorite to return. Foster the People is a bit of a head scratcher, but budget headliners seem to be scarce this year.
If that really is the Firefly lineup, I'm very surprised War on Drugs and Tame Impala are not on there...
Governors Ball is the reason those two won't play. Two weeks apart and less than 200 miles away from NYC.
I'm not wrong for thinking that those sorts of rules are kinda bullshit right? I understand why a festival would WANT to do it (more exclusivity?) but it should be up to the artists to play where they want.
If that really is the Firefly lineup, I'm very surprised War on Drugs and Tame Impala are not on there...
Governors Ball is the reason those two won't play. Two weeks apart and less than 200 miles away from NYC.
Not necessarily. Both festivals had Broken Bells and Childish Gambino last year. And they shared a fair amount of overlap in 2013 (The Avett Brothers, The Lumineers, Grizzly Bear, Kendrick Lamar, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros).
Right, but that doesn't mean they haven't changed their stipulations knowing how close in proximity the fests are. As more festivals pop up, the less lenient the promoters will be in letting the artist play other festivals in their proximity. Hudson Project for example popped up on the radar last year and would give a good reason to tighten up the rules. This is worth keeping noting for next year and see how much overlap near there is of the two fests.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 24, 2015 13:52:22 GMT -5
It's likely Gov. Ball and Firefly didn't consider themselves in direct competition until this past year, but with them both becoming larger it doesn't seem like a coincidence they don't share anyone in their top 20.
Governors Ball is the reason those two won't play. Two weeks apart and less than 200 miles away from NYC.
Not necessarily. Both festivals had Broken Bells and Childish Gambino last year. And they shared a fair amount of overlap in 2013 (The Avett Brothers, The Lumineers, Grizzly Bear, Kendrick Lamar, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros).
Holy shiz dude I just realized you're in ithaca! I go to school at SUNY Cortland. I'm actually moving back to my apartment up there later today.
Rustie, Nina Las Vegas, SNBRN, Snakehips, Odesza, RJD2, Alison Wonderland, Sweater Beats... IMO the EDM for this lineup is better than any other festival minus Coachella.
I also really enjoy Zedd every time I see him FWIW.
Most of those are all fine and dandy, but you've got Steve Aoki, The Chainsmokers, and Zedd taking up prime slots.
Every festival has those guys taking up prime spots basically. Aside from Gov Ball who opted for the Mau5/Flume route and while they're great acts, there aren't really any awesome dance party acts. I'd much rather have the fun-cheese at the top and then the awesome quality EDM in the undercard, instead of good quality EDM taking up the only top spots.
That fake looks like the past two years of Hangout lineups threw up on it and put Sir Paul on top.
I can play too. Hangout 2015 looks like the past two years of Firefly with ZBB and Skrillex on top.
Woah. Crazy how that works.
Why are you so defensive about a music festival? It seems like anytime someone has something negative to say about FF you act like they are attacking you personally. It's silly.
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I can play too. Hangout 2015 looks like the past two years of Firefly with ZBB and Skrillex on top.
Woah. Crazy how that works.
I count 7 artists on the Hangout 2015 lineup who are FF alums......
And why are you so defensive about a music festival? It seems like anytime someone has something negative to say about FF you act like they are attacking you personally. It's silly.
Music Festivals book acts who have played other festivals, I know it sounds crazy but it's true. Not sure why it suddenly has to be brought up by a Hangout fanboy in here. We already have enough of them coming in here to bash.
I get defensive because they hate on here for Firefly is absurd and honestly just hilarious. Every year it's the same hate for different reasons. I pointed it out yesterday... Everywhere people are calling it a weak festival year, tons of repeats all around... Firefly goes out and (possibly) nabs McCartney, Morrissey, EOTS, and a ton more that aren't seen on any other lineup this year so far and... bashing. They should have just booked everyone from Governors Ball and called it a day, or something. God forbid they try and book some different kinds of acts in the undercard. They should just cater to the Pitchfork crowd like every other festival.
When I first saw the lineup I honestly thought many people on here would like it. Macca, Morrissey, Modest Mouse (weren't there people BEGGING for MM at Roo?) Kid Cudi, Gary Clark Jr, Spoon, Run The Jewels, The Kooks, etc... but ah, no. Just a trash lineup. Again. Forever.
I count 7 artists on the Hangout 2015 lineup who are FF alums......
And why are you so defensive about a music festival? It seems like anytime someone has something negative to say about FF you act like they are attacking you personally. It's silly.
Music Festivals book acts who have played other festivals, I know it sounds crazy but it's true. Not sure why it suddenly has to be brought up by a Hangout fanboy in here. We already have enough of them coming in here to bash.
I get defensive because they hate on here for Firefly is absurd and honestly just hilarious. Every year it's the same hate for different reasons. I pointed it out yesterday... Everywhere people are calling it a weak festival year, tons of repeats all around... Firefly goes out and (possibly) nabs McCartney, Morrissey, EOTS, and a ton more that aren't seen on any other lineup this year so far and... bashing. They should have just booked everyone from Governors Ball and called it a day, or something. God forbid they try and book some different kinds of acts in the undercard. They should just cater to the Pitchfork crowd like every other festival.
When I first saw the lineup I honestly thought many people on here would like it. Macca, Morrissey, Modest Mouse (weren't there people BEGGING for MM at Roo?) Kid Cudi, Gary Clark Jr, Spoon, Run The Jewels, The Kooks, etc... but ah, no. Just a trash lineup. Again. Forever.
Why do you care what people think so much though? If you dig the lineup, other peoples opinions shouldn't diminish that.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 24, 2015 16:23:26 GMT -5
I think all he's saying is that it's not really necessary for people who have no intention of going to Firefly to begin with to bash the lineup. Not a big deal.