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The Random tiny Delaware artists and the hits on Bastille and Empire of the Sun (Spoon and RTJ were pretty obvious) are what makes it so for me.
Is some random EDM account really going to look into random tiny Delaware bands along with all the time he would had to have spent designing the graphics for that lineup? For FIREFLY of all festivals?
I don't understand why people continue to argue this. I personally think it was an early version of the lineup and not someone just designing a "fake" one. It obviously won't be exactly the same--which doesn't prove this is fake, just incomplete with maybe some false placeholders. Fortunately, we'll all know soon (hopefully tomorrow.)
Do you folks believe everything you see on the internet? Yes, it's realistic and probably quite accurate, but as Rory said, does it really make sense for Firefly to go through all the trouble of putting together all the graphics for an incomplete/early lineup draft? I think several people just want to believe it's a "leak" because they're desperate for an actual leak. When you're anxiously awaiting something, it's easy to let your guard down and succumb to the latest juicy rumor rather than remain skeptical.
I think it's funny that you think festivals just put together lineup posters with their incomplete lineups.
Question: when the lineup comes out, and some of those acts aren't on there, will you finally admit that it's completely fake?
And I think it's funny that you think someone could actually create that realistic of a mock both with the artists and the graphics.
I don't think it is that strange that festivals put together lineup posters before it's complete, probably to show off for things such as sponsorships, etc. No I won't admit that it's completely fake since artists drop out all the time. When Avicii wasn't on the lineup last year did that mean that what RedFrog put out was fake? Or that it didn't work out before the lineup release date.
On a side note, I can now picture what people with thousands of posts on message boards are like in real life. I've always wondered how someone would get to that point in their life... lol.
"You all are losers who are on here except for me, even though I'm wasting all this time arguing about a fake festival lineup. You people are the losers!"
I don't understand why people continue to argue this. I personally think it was an early version of the lineup and not someone just designing a "fake" one. It obviously won't be exactly the same--which doesn't prove this is fake, just incomplete with maybe some false placeholders. Fortunately, we'll all know soon (hopefully tomorrow.)
Do you folks believe everything you see on the internet? Yes, it's realistic and probably quite accurate, but as Rory said, does it really make sense for Firefly to go through all the trouble of putting together all the graphics for an incomplete/early lineup draft?
I don't see why this is so far-fetched. There's probably someone (or a team of people) at Red Frog who do graphic design. Is it really so ridiculous to imagine that perhaps they created a few different designs for poster art to have a superior or someone with the final say take a look at? Once all the artwork was done, how long would it take to copy and paste the current list of artists on top of the graphic to give a feel for what the end product would look like?
Who the hell would go to all the trouble of designing a complex, original, fake poster like that, that's themed using a graphic style that Firefly has used previously, research over 100 artists to find ones who have appropriate tour gaps, research small local acts who would be likely to wind up on the bill, all for a festival that we've just been discussing has next to no online presence compared to many others? So some twitter account can gain a few followers before instantly losing credibility, as would happen if the fake poster is not close to accurate?
This, coupled with the fact they've already hit on Bastille and Empire of the Sun, who no one would have reasonably expected, added to the fact that Launchpad has said this poster isn't far off from the actual one, and that acts he'd heard may easily have dropped out or been replaced, all make me think it's really not so far-fetched to imagine that this might be an early graphic, and a bare minimum, someone with inside information.
That poster from Roo last year that everyone is citing as one of the most convincing fakes was about half-right. If this poster is 75% or more right, I really don't think it'll be unreasonable to assume it was likely an early version of the lineup.
Post by Farrisbueller on Jan 27, 2015 9:35:14 GMT -5
Why couldn't I just have woken up two hours from now. Better yet just put me in cryo sleep like Matt damon, then when the lineup finally comes out I'm blow this motherfucker up.
I've been following along this thread for a whIle now, and finally registered. It's amazing what a leaked/fake lineup can do.
It's surprising to see the adamant defense of it though. It has to be real because of a random Delaware band, or it got 4/5 right so it's an early version. Now there is proactive defending of it if it's mostly right as an early version.
I think people are underestimating others photo shop skills and the ability to make educated guesses with perhaps some inside information. I don't have any inside information and I could have predicted three of the five that were in the leak.
I think people are underestimating others photo shop skills and the ability to make educated guesses with perhaps some inside information. I don't have any inside information and I could have predicted three of the five that were in the leak.
RtJ, Spoon, and....?
And I don't think anyone is underestimating anyone's ability; there are a good number of people out there with decent photoshop skills. I think what's more being questioned is whoever would make the fake's motive. That undoubtedly would take hours and hours of work. I could understand if someone wanted to do it for Roo or Coachella, which are in the national spotlight, but why put in the hours of work just to fuck with the fourteen of us wasting time in this Inforoo thread?
The amount of effort involved compared to the tiny audience the poster would actually affect just doesn't make any sense to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my free time on it.
I think people are underestimating others photo shop skills and the ability to make educated guesses with perhaps some inside information. I don't have any inside information and I could have predicted three of the five that were in the leak.
RtJ, Spoon, and....?
And I don't think anyone is underestimating anyone's ability; there are a good number of people out there with decent photoshop skills. I think what's more being questioned is whoever would make the fake's motive. That undoubtedly would take hours and hours of work. I could understand if someone wanted to do it for Roo or Coachella, which are in the national spotlight, but why put in the hours of work just to fuck with the fourteen of us wasting time in this Inforoo thread?
The amount of effort involved compared to the tiny audience the poster would actually affect just doesn't make any sense to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my free time on it.
How do you think people get good at Photoshop, etc? Challenging themselves and doing this type of stuff for practice. People work on things and put them out on the net to see how many people bite. Some just do it because they enjoy it. I'm not saying that's definitely what happened but it's completely in the realm of possibility and wouldn't be a rare occurrence.
There are 15 of us in this thread. I'm an active listener. Was @ Roo last three yrs but not enough bands I wanna c to make a 14 hour trip. Thinking about firefly if the line up suits my tastes. How is security there as far as 420 goes?
I think people are underestimating others photo shop skills and the ability to make educated guesses with perhaps some inside information. I don't have any inside information and I could have predicted three of the five that were in the leak.
RtJ, Spoon, and....?
And I don't think anyone is underestimating anyone's ability; there are a good number of people out there with decent photoshop skills. I think what's more being questioned is whoever would make the fake's motive. That undoubtedly would take hours and hours of work. I could understand if someone wanted to do it for Roo or Coachella, which are in the national spotlight, but why put in the hours of work just to fuck with the fourteen of us wasting time in this Inforoo thread?
The amount of effort involved compared to the tiny audience the poster would actually affect just doesn't make any sense to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my free time on it.
I think you underestimate the number of people potentially interested in attending Firefly. While nowhere near as established as festivals like Bonnaroo and Coachella, Firefly had 80,000 attendees last year and takes place near the largest megalopolis in the country. If these factors don't put Firefly in the national spotlight, the rumor of Paul McCartney headlining certainly would. And it's not just the folks on Inforoo or the Firefly message forums who are discussing the rumored "leak". That image has been popping up everywhere on social media in the last 24-48 hours. Even media sources like Stereogum and Delawareonline.com have been talking about the "leak".
And I don't think anyone is underestimating anyone's ability; there are a good number of people out there with decent photoshop skills. I think what's more being questioned is whoever would make the fake's motive. That undoubtedly would take hours and hours of work. I could understand if someone wanted to do it for Roo or Coachella, which are in the national spotlight, but why put in the hours of work just to fuck with the fourteen of us wasting time in this Inforoo thread?
The amount of effort involved compared to the tiny audience the poster would actually affect just doesn't make any sense to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my free time on it.
I think you underestimate the number of people potentially interested in attending Firefly. While nowhere near as established as festivals like Bonnaroo and Coachella, Firefly had 80,000 attendees last year and takes place near the largest megalopolis in the country. If these factors don't put Firefly in the national spotlight, the rumor of Paul McCartney headlining certainly would. And it's not just the folks on Inforoo or the Firefly message forums who are discussing the rumored "leak". That image has been popping up everywhere on social media in the last 24-48 hours. Even media sources like Stereogum and Delawareonline.com have been talking about the "leak".
Fair points. It's just strange for me to even have to deal with the concept of fakes for Firefly. At Roo or Coachella, they're common enough that they're a day-to-day inevitability (there's a website completely dedicated to putting in your own artists to make a fake Coach poster, FFS). The idea that someone would put so much effort into a FF fake is just kind of foreign to me, though I guess it's probably possible.
There are 15 of us in this thread. I'm an active listener. Was @ Roo last three yrs but not enough bands I wanna c to make a 14 hour trip. Thinking about firefly if the line up suits my tastes. How is security there as far as 420 goes?
Non existent on the security end. They'd be there all day if they cared about pot.
There are 15 of us in this thread. I'm an active listener. Was @ Roo last three yrs but not enough bands I wanna c to make a 14 hour trip. Thinking about firefly if the line up suits my tastes. How is security there as far as 420 goes?
Security is pretty lax. No more stringent than any other festival.
I went year 1 and it was fabulous- there was no one there!
I went year 2 and it had tripled in attendance but hadn't really added much space and was laid out poorly. The music was great - namely Petty and Vampire Weekend, wow - but the overall experience was a real headache at times.
I've been to Bonnaroo 3 of the last 4 years, including 2013 where I did Bonnaroo and Firefly back to back, and there's just nothing like it. But I'm in the same boat you're in, Bonnaroo is far (I live in DC) and can get expensive. I'm sure I would have a blast if I went again this year but I'm more open to Firefly than I've been in a while, especially with such a strong crop of headliners rumored (in my opinion at least.) I'm also encouraged by the news that they've partnered with Coachella to iron out logistics.
Here's hoping this lineup a)drops today and b) is good. I'm not especially thrilled with that mock but this would still probably be the fest I attend based on proximity and so many of my friends attending.
There are 15 of us in this thread. I'm an active listener. Was @ Roo last three yrs but not enough bands I wanna c to make a 14 hour trip. Thinking about firefly if the line up suits my tastes. How is security there as far as 420 goes?
I hope this helps: Last year on the day Outkast and Pretty Lights played, my bag was searched upon entry and the guy pulls out a baggie with three pre rolled king size fattys in it. He proceeded by putting them back in my bag and say "You're gonna need these". Later on at Pretty Lights I was smoking one of the fattys with a particularly fine looking Asian women next to the gated off section in the middle of the crowd, and a security guard taps me on the shoulder and says "Hey, can we get a hit of that?". Naturally, I hand it to him and he and the other security guard hit it a few times, then handed it back to me.... I'd say it's fairly lax, even the state police there are just looking to keep the peace.
I am growing skeptical of the lineup dropping today.
They wouldn't drop it this early. Only 9 AM at their headquarters.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a lineup before noon. However, I would at least expect an announcement from Twitter/Facebook specifying the day of the lineup release.
Post by andrewmcfarland on Jan 27, 2015 10:34:16 GMT -5
I want to say the 2013 announcement came at 8:00 a.m.
As far as security goes I've never heard of or seen any issues. That said.. I know people who have gotten patted down upon entry and were returned their "goods" if they went back to their campsite and left them there (they didn't, they just went to another line and got in).
Edit: Timestamp changed after I posted that. Looks like it was actually 3:34 Eastern.
On further inspection I guess they tweeted out the video a few hours before the actual lineup image, so noon or early afternoon would be reasonable I'd think. I didn't see any sort of tweet announcing the time of the lineup drop last year beyond one similar to this year's "this week" notification. Though Mike G did post saying they would give some warning about when it was going to come out, for what that's worth.
Last year, the scavenger hunt ended Sunday night, and then there are no tweets between then and the lineup video on Tuesday.
I think people are underestimating others photo shop skills and the ability to make educated guesses with perhaps some inside information. I don't have any inside information and I could have predicted three of the five that were in the leak.
RtJ, Spoon, and....?
And I don't think anyone is underestimating anyone's ability; there are a good number of people out there with decent photoshop skills. I think what's more being questioned is whoever would make the fake's motive. That undoubtedly would take hours and hours of work. I could understand if someone wanted to do it for Roo or Coachella, which are in the national spotlight, but why put in the hours of work just to fuck with the fourteen of us wasting time in this Inforoo thread?
The amount of effort involved compared to the tiny audience the poster would actually affect just doesn't make any sense to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my free time on it.
RTJ, Spoon, and Bastille. They don't surprise me at all, and I thought they'd be there.
I wouldn't waste my time either, but I never underestimate the amount of free time of others to mess with people. I also wouldn't be surprised if red frog did it to create buzz, which seemed to work.
They obviously knew of the leak, and they chose 4 of 5 to release? They are messing with us, and the buzz continues.
I know I've seen more talk of the leak than where is the lineup lately. Either way, I think the person that leaked got what they wanted. I will not be surprised if it's close, but I expect differences. St Vincent for example.
Firefly responded to several posts on facebook saying "It's coming soon- we promise!" Someone else posted 'here's hoping today's the day' and they also responded "Stay tuned to Facebook, Travis. When we post the lineup, we'll likely post here first" and to a third "we're excited you're excited. Stay tuned"
All responses within the last half hour so they are more active than usual responding to people.
Post by asseenontv12 on Jan 27, 2015 11:02:24 GMT -5
In any event, the fake/leaked/whatever we want to call it lineup is done by a more talented graphic designer than the one that has handled the first couple years, so give the guy a job.