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There is no way Hangout's lineup is better. You know my thoughts on that already. But Roo isn't too far ahead of it. It's kind of a shitty year so far where I'd have to pick and choose with lots of wander time at almost any US lineup I've seen. I've seen almost everything I'd want to see at Bonnaroo for the most part, and there's a lot of shit on their lineup I don't know or care about. But if I was going to go:
U2
RHCP <--- Apparently covered Southern Nights and blew up the NO'rena last night and brought up Rebirth, GPJr and Ivan Neville
Chance the Rapper
Cage
Big G
Umphrey's
Portugal.
Royal Blood
Car Seat Headrest
Snails
Illenium
badbadnotgood
G. Jones
Pres Hall
Herobust
San Holo
Rezz
Kaiydo
Stick Figure
Turkuaz
Promise of the Real!!!!!!
GWN
Here's how I would defend my argument: If these bands were all on Hangout's lineup (and I realize several of them have been in the past), I'd go to Hangout. Because they are on Bonnaroo's lineup which is another > $1,000 festival for me but one that goes all day and all night, no. Also, there is a ton of stuff I don't know on Bonnaroo's lineup and don't plan on looking into unless the sets are streamed. But they also have The Weeknd, Major Lazer, Flume, Marshmallow, Tove Lo, Tegan and Sara, Yellow Claw, Cold War Kids, Louis the Child, Borgore and Ookay. Those acts pretty much suck balls.
Idk Big E I did my "who I'd see list" on initial look at roo and came up with 27 acts I'd like to see without rly doing any research. Of those 27 only 7 acts are things I haven't seen before or that aren't at hangout (that's generous to bc I'm not counting chilis since they sucked at hof) when I do the same for hangout I come back with 33 acts to see 22 I haven't see or that aren't at roo. Then I have to ask myself is chili peppers, lorde, dram, getter, badbad worth missing the beach? Idk. I think I'm just stuck on snails, Portugal, futureislands, glass animals and royal blood.
Makes me more excited to see out pre party!
It's so hard to know which direction they will go in with the pre-party since it's been all over the place and sort of hard to categorize. It's sometimes featured jam, EDM, pop (Matt & Kim) or whatever (but usually has a few dj sets, some live acts, a rapper or two..). I think Lettuce closing out that Thursday night in the tent would be cool. But who knows what they're going to do?
Ignoring Bonnaroo's and Hangout's top 4, Hangout wins. If Hangout had U2/RHCP instead of Mumford/Pilots - I would be there. If Bonnaroo had Mumford/Pilots instead of U2/RHCP - it'd be just about the worst lineup of the year. This is coming from somebody who thought Roo 2016's lineup looked pretty good.
I got all this. I'm going to beach before the prices go up in May. Maybe do Mullet Fest weekend which is a totally drunk and crazy experience. I live 20 miles from Roo so no brainer and have so many local friends going. Since I did not go to Hangout last year nor planning to this year, a few more I want to see that I have not. The number and who I see with exception of U2 will depend on the condition of my body and the weather. I swore I was not going back to Roo this year...but, here we go.
Going to Snails is for krisplettuce. Musical value = zero. Having fun with an insane crowd - priceless
Ignoring Bonnaroo's and Hangout's top 4, Hangout wins. If Hangout had U2/RHCP instead of Mumford/Pilots - I would be there. If Bonnaroo had Mumford/Pilots instead of U2/RHCP - it'd be just about the worst lineup of the year. This is coming from somebody who thought Roo 2016's lineup looked pretty good.
I love U2 so I'm a little biased. I'm more like Bob though in that if I lived 20 minutes away from the festival, I'd certainly be there. There is fun to be had at both festivals, but neither are as musically solid this year as I'd prefer. Last time I saw Umphrey's at Bonnaroo, and that was 2012, they played 4 hours from 2-6am. Shit was great. They'll probably get another late night set. And they will rule.
I will say that it's nice to see Big Gigantic crack the top 13 on a major festival. Also, Glass Animals wasn't in the Top 50 2 years ago, but they're Top 15 now. That's a big move up.
Ignoring Bonnaroo's and Hangout's top 4, Hangout wins. If Hangout had U2/RHCP instead of Mumford/Pilots - I would be there. If Bonnaroo had Mumford/Pilots instead of U2/RHCP - it'd be just about the worst lineup of the year. This is coming from somebody who thought Roo 2016's lineup looked pretty good.
I love U2 so I'm a little biased. I'm more like Bob though in that if I lived 20 minutes away from the festival, I'd certainly be there. There is fun to be had at both festivals, but neither are as musically solid this year as I'd prefer. Last time I saw Umphrey's at Bonnaroo, and that was 2012, they played 4 hours from 2-6am. Shit was great. They'll probably get another late night set. And they will rule.
I will say that it's nice to see Big Gigantic crack the top 13 on a major festival. Also, Glass Animals wasn't in the Top 50 2 years ago, but they're Top 15 now. That's a big move up.
Yea I was happy to see future islands jump up as well but sad to see glass animals over Portugal the man.
Yeah. I don't hate Glass Animals or anything, but it's kind of just whatever. Portugal is usually a lot of fun live. So I'd see them in a conflict with Glass Animals.
Yeah. I don't hate Glass Animals or anything, but it's kind of just whatever. Portugal is usually a lot of fun live. So I'd see them in a conflict with Glass Animals.
I'm not surprised to see the shitstorm all over the board regarding this Roo lineup. There is legit not one "oh damn, nice booking" type act in the whole lineup imo. When the lineup dropped, Hangout had 3 of those with Frank, Sigur Ros, and Franz Ferdinand. Bookings that were completely out of left field which is why I've said all along I think they actually did a decent job this year, just not enough to warrant the cost of the trip for me and my group.
All that being said, our group is still 100% in for Roo. I could care less about EDM at these fests. If you have a few acts I'd check out that's legit all I need. Roo did that for me with Flume, Big G, Claude Vonstroke and Snails (yes I know they've been everywhere but I'd still see them.) The thing for me is there's easily 20+ acts I'd be happy to see without any research at all and cost-wise, Roo is half the price of Hangout when all is said and done. Here's where I'm at:
U2
Chili Peppers
Chance
Flume
Lorde
The XX
Cage The Elephant
Head & The Heart
Big G
Glass Animals
Future Islands
Umphreys McGee
Portgual The Man
Cold War Kids
Kaleo
Superjam!
Royal Blood
Strumbellas
Car Seat Headrest
Michael Kiwanuka
Snails
Claude Vonstroke
Badbadnotgood
Front Bottoms
Pres Hall
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Orwells
White Reaper
Promise Of The Real
Again, a lot of acts on that list have been everywhere the last few years and I get that, but I still like the acts. And in the case of the Future Islands, Umphreys, and Royal Blood, you're talking some of my favorite undercard acts I could realistically want at a fest. Plus I've never been to Roo so why not make it the year they get U2 on the farm. I'm pumped but I also think the criticism is completely warranted.
Sometimes I wonder if there are still "unique acts" left. PJ Harvey, Avalanches, Aphex Twin, Justice, Franz Ferdinand, Sigur Ros, Shaggy, Gambino, Incubus, Jurassic 5, Wu Tang, Usher/Roots, would all make things look a little bit more interesting without being excessively rare.
I avoid the word "never". I listened to quite a bit of Weekend and have not detected a change from last year to this year. Still same ol Weekend. I still will not go see him. I still believe he is a waste of headliner but, respect that others loooooove him. I wouldn't go see Rick Springfield either.
I also can relate to what Ken Sumar and mattlikesrock say about bands playing festivals year to year and they have become boring. I do not go to as many festivals so I'm probably not bored yet. There are so many bands/performers over the years who I had no clue about and either said "not so much" or really enjoyed them (Delta Rae, Isbell, St Paul, OCMS). Aaron Lee Tasjan and Albin Le Meldau are two songwriters down the Roo lineup I had not heard of until a couple hours ago. The sound pretty good and worth a live listen. I really enjoy those "back stages" performers at Hangout and Roo. There is gold in there, just have to mine it.
For me, U2 is a band I own a lot of CDs/iTunes songs for, play "One" in my setlist, and consider significantly better than the best Hangout headliners. U2 and Macca are equal in my book. Plus many more mid to lower tiered songwriters at Roo this year make it hard to turn down. Roo definitely has more variety and representation from folk/bluegrass/rock than Hangout. If you go to Roo or Hangout, may the weather be kind, and you have a great time.
1/17 Spafford 2/7 Greensky Bluegrass 3/17 Cool Cool Cool 3/28 Ekoostik Hookah 7/10 Jason Mraz 7/11 Chris Stapleton 7/12 Red Hot Chili Peppers 7/13 Buffalo Ska Fest
Post by discoannak on Jan 11, 2017 13:01:42 GMT -5
U2 makes me roll my eyes so hard I induce a migraine.
I'm only jealous of XX but I'm not sure a fest is the best venue for them...kind of a James Blake situation. I want the greatest sound system in a small space and everyone shutting up for both those acts.
Got Roo Ticket and Day Parking Pass. Man they sold out that first tier quick...but, I managed to get mine before the increase. Still an expensive ticket for as few bands as I want to see. U2 pretty much worth the price of the ticket for me. Goes well with the Doobies/Chicago VIP ticket in Nashville 27 June. I will probably work as well and get another four day ticket so may have an extra later.
I will go see U2, RHCP, The Head and the Heart, Umphrey's McGee, Future Islands, Tegan & Sara, Cold War Kids, Kaleo, Superjam, Snails, Preservation Hall Band, Greensky Bluegrass and Bluegrass Superjam, Rainbow Kitten Surprise, Deap Vally, Stick Figure, and others that I will need to check out. That is a pretty good list of performers. Given I live 20 miles from the farm, hard to turn this one down. Anybody kmow if there are other folk/bluegrass/jam/funk/blues performers on the Roo lineup I need to check out? Roll call of Hangout folks going to Roo this year. I know Zaitch is in.
Bob, sure looking forward to seeing U2 & Michael Kiwanuka. Also Rainbow Kitten Surprise (after all the good things I have heard about them). Interested also in Lorde. Alot of the others I have already seen. Among those, RHCP, Cage, Portugal the Man, Future Islands, Tove Lo, Kaleo, Royal Blood, Strumbellas, Margo Price, Greensky Bluegrass, Bad Suns, Deap Vally, The Orwells, July Talk, & White Reaper stand out.
There are also a bunch I have never heard of & will have to check out. Looking forward to seeing you on the farm!
I avoid the word "never". I listened to quite a bit of Weekend and have not detected a change from last year to this year. Still same ol Weekend. I still will not go see him. I still believe he is a waste of headliner but, respect that others loooooove him. I wouldn't go see Rick Springfield either.
I also can relate to what Ken Sumar and mattlikesrock say about bands playing festivals year to year and they have become boring. I do not go to as many festivals so I'm probably not bored yet. There are so many bands/performers over the years who I had no clue about and either said "not so much" or really enjoyed them (Delta Rae, Isbell, St Paul, OCMS). Aaron Lee Tasjan and Albin Le Meldau are two songwriters down the Roo lineup I had not heard of until a couple hours ago. The sound pretty good and worth a live listen. I really enjoy those "back stages" performers at Hangout and Roo. There is gold in there, just have to mine it.
For me, U2 is a band I own a lot of CDs/iTunes songs for, play "One" in my setlist, and consider significantly better than the best Hangout headliners. U2 and Macca are equal in my book. Plus many more mid to lower tiered songwriters at Roo this year make it hard to turn down. Roo definitely has more variety and representation from folk/bluegrass/rock than Hangout. If you go to Roo or Hangout, may the weather be kind, and you have a great time.
I have seem him twice now. At Hangout & at Voodoo Fest. Got to say I was impressed both times. He has a powerful voice. I'm sure I will be there for his set. Expect him to headline Friday night.
Spent the day going through each of the Bonnaroo 2017 performers. Counted 34 I want to see including Umph, RHCP, The Head and the Heart, of course U2. I counted about that many I don't want to see and the rest somewhere in the middle. I was really caught up in the bluegrass, folk, songwriter, jazz, R&B, performers that just are not in the Hangout mix in terms of numbers and quality. Mumford and a handful of groups I'd like to see plus the wonderful beach minus the significant cost just was not as good a deal as Bonnaroo this year. I like Bonnaroo 2017 a lot better than 2016. Again, Bonnaroo and weather inSouthern Middle Tennessee duiring early June can be fair or brutal. Hopefully, we get fair and have a great time. Ditto the folks going to Hangout.
I think the answer to the live feed of Hangout shows like Bonnaroo and other festivals is a no. AXSTV after the fact one hour shows just don't equal those feeds like the COMPLETE MMJ and TTB sets from Sasquatch (??) last summer.
I'm not surprised to see the shitstorm all over the board regarding this Roo lineup. There is legit not one "oh damn, nice booking" type act in the whole lineup imo. When the lineup dropped, Hangout had 3 of those with Frank, Sigur Ros, and Franz Ferdinand. Bookings that were completely out of left field which is why I've said all along I think they actually did a decent job this year, just not enough to warrant the cost of the trip for me and my group.
All that being said, our group is still 100% in for Roo. I could care less about EDM at these fests. If you have a few acts I'd check out that's legit all I need. Roo did that for me with Flume, Big G, Claude Vonstroke and Snails (yes I know they've been everywhere but I'd still see them.) The thing for me is there's easily 20+ acts I'd be happy to see without any research at all and cost-wise, Roo is half the price of Hangout when all is said and done. Here's where I'm at:
U2
Chili Peppers
Chance
Flume
Lorde
The XX
Cage The Elephant
Head & The Heart
Big G
Glass Animals
Future Islands
Umphreys McGee
Portgual The Man
Cold War Kids
Kaleo
Superjam!
Royal Blood
Strumbellas
Car Seat Headrest
Michael Kiwanuka
Snails
Claude Vonstroke
Badbadnotgood
Front Bottoms
Pres Hall
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Orwells
White Reaper
Promise Of The Real
Again, a lot of acts on that list have been everywhere the last few years and I get that, but I still like the acts. And in the case of the Future Islands, Umphreys, and Royal Blood, you're talking some of my favorite undercard acts I could realistically want at a fest. Plus I've never been to Roo so why not make it the year they get U2 on the farm. I'm pumped but I also think the criticism is completely warranted.
Yes I know, tl;dr
You basically summed up how I feel,who I would see and the fact I'll probably end up going as always because of friends...
Post by krisplettuce on Jan 11, 2017 17:53:07 GMT -5
I was rdy to hit roo again this year (first time back since 2011)and still ahve a few in group wanting to go for the xx but after seeing Middlelands and it being so close I can pass it up. Plus it's medieval themed I mean cmon! you can throw rotten food at peasents!
I was rdy to hit roo again this year (first time back since 2011)and still ahve a few in group wanting to go for the xx but after seeing Middlelands and it being so close I can pass it up. Plus it's medieval themed I mean cmon! you can throw rotten food at peasents!
maybe I'll just hold out til it's been 10 years.
Krisp, had never heard of Middlelands till now. Looks like a load of fun. If closer/cheaper than Bonnaroo, sounds like the place to go. I've lurked here for at least 3 years, so I know you alot better than you know me. Have enjoyed your posts. Musically, we have alot in common (love of The XX aside). Hope you don't end up in the stocks ;-)
I was rdy to hit roo again this year (first time back since 2011)and still ahve a few in group wanting to go for the xx but after seeing Middlelands and it being so close I can pass it up. Plus it's medieval themed I mean cmon! you can throw rotten food at peasents!
maybe I'll just hold out til it's been 10 years.
Krisp, had never heard of Middlelands till now. Looks like a load of fun. If closer/cheaper than Bonnaroo, sounds like the place to go. I've lurked here for at least 3 years, so I know you alot better than you know me. Have enjoyed your posts. Musically, we have alot in common (love of The XX aside). Hope you don't end up in the stocks ;-)
A week was the longest anyone had lurked prior to you. Well done. I would like to say to all of the lurkers, keep up the good work. Don't quit. You are needed.
I was rdy to hit roo again this year (first time back since 2011)and still ahve a few in group wanting to go for the xx but after seeing Middlelands and it being so close I can pass it up. Plus it's medieval themed I mean cmon! you can throw rotten food at peasents!
maybe I'll just hold out til it's been 10 years.
Krisp, had never heard of Middlelands till now. Looks like a load of fun. If closer/cheaper than Bonnaroo, sounds like the place to go. I've lurked here for at least 3 years, so I know you alot better than you know me. Have enjoyed your posts. Musically, we have alot in common (love of The XX aside). Hope you don't end up in the stocks ;-)
Welcome! Glad you decided to join us! Hope to see you at Middlelands it's gunna be a goodn. You plan on doing hangout this year?
(Oh and I don't like the xx much it's more so good friends i want to go see them with since it's their fav. )
Eh Bonnaroos lineup just doesn't do it for me this year only people who I really want to see who aren't at Hangout are micheal kiwanuka and U2. My year is shaping up to look like hangout, Paul McCartney/Stevie Wonder at jazz fest if the rumors are correct with possible STS9 late night show in the city, Childish Gambino and A Tribe Called Quest Tour and maybe middlelands/Voodoo
Eh Bonnaroos lineup just doesn't do it for me this year only people who I really want to see who aren't at Hangout are micheal kiwanuka and U2. My year is shaping up to look like hangout, Paul McCartney/Stevie Wonder at jazz fest if the rumors are correct with possible STS9 late night show in the city, Childish Gambino and A Tribe Called Quest Tour and maybe middlelands/Voodoo
Chick that called Flea at Rebirth last night with Shorty after the RHCP concert hit it. So she's 1 for 1. Hopefully the STS9 rumor is correct and they come to terms if they are still negotiating or whatever. :fingers crossed:
Krisp, had never heard of Middlelands till now. Looks like a load of fun. If closer/cheaper than Bonnaroo, sounds like the place to go. I've lurked here for at least 3 years, so I know you alot better than you know me. Have enjoyed your posts. Musically, we have alot in common (love of The XX aside). Hope you don't end up in the stocks ;-)
A week was the longest anyone had lurked prior to you. Well done. I would like to say to all of the lurkers, keep up the good work. Don't quit. You are needed.
I was in an unusual situation in that I only had a nice free work computer & while I was allowed to go to the site & read stuff, it was a fireable offense to interact/post. Think they were worried about viruses, etc. Certainly wouldn't have stayed out of the conversation for that long if I had had my own computer (which I now have). Sure glad to be here now!
Krisp, had never heard of Middlelands till now. Looks like a load of fun. If closer/cheaper than Bonnaroo, sounds like the place to go. I've lurked here for at least 3 years, so I know you alot better than you know me. Have enjoyed your posts. Musically, we have alot in common (love of The XX aside). Hope you don't end up in the stocks ;-)
Welcome! Glad you decided to join us! Hope to see you at Middlelands it's gunna be a goodn. You plan on doing hangout this year?
(Oh and I don't like the xx much it's more so good friends i want to go see them with since it's their fav. )
Just so happens that Rock on the Range is the same weekend & 2 of my very favorite bands (The Offspring & Sum 41) are going to be there & I have never seen either of them. So I'm heading up to Columbus (which is much closer for me than Gulf Shores). This will be one of my infrequent visits into Metalland. I have been to last 3 Louder Than Lifes in Louisville. Also have 2 very elderly parents (93 & 91) and me & my sister agree that I need to stay closer to home & for that reason only I would not be attending Hangout, if ROR didn't have those acts (and a few more I really dig). Bonnaroo will have to be the farthest fest I attend, until my parents pass on.
I do generally like the Hangout lineup. Really bummed about not seeing Sigur Ros & Franz Ferdinand.