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If an analysis showed Phoenix would only bring 1000 people to a fest, then they'd be at the bottom of the line up. There is no "Once a HL, always a HL."
i think there is for each specific fest. coachella wont book phoenix again until they're a full fledged headliner, and Hangout would never book someone like florence again and have her lower than 3rd.
The fact Philly is holding a successful festival in the middle of the city is commendable. It is also a very hip hop heavy festival, because Philly is a hip hop city, so a lot of acts won't be billed as expected.
Given Zen's lineup and schedule, I can definitely get into a lazy Hangout just camping out every late afternoon and evening at the main stage. I would buy a GA for those 6 performers at the Main Stage. How many of you purchased VIP. I may have to upgrade if the main stage is that awesome and the surf stage is well, nothing there for me.
I know most of you couldn't give a rats a** but, Southern Comfort in Charleston is the same weekend as Hangout. charleston.southerngroundfestival.com/schedule No lineup for 2017 yet but, I would have enjoyed last year's lineup: Zac Brown Band and others such as Tedeschi Trucks Band, Thomas Rhett, Michael Franti & Spearhead, Kacey Musgraves, Hunter Hayes and Marshall Tucker Band.
Made In America is a joke festival with whacked out billing. So that's a poor example of Phoenix's popularity. They headlined Coachella and Lolla, arguably two of the biggest US fests. If they were to play both again, I would be shocked if they were demoted to subs. Roo was one of the only major fests who put them on a side stage, and not have them as a headliner in a baller 2014 lineup. We will see how many fests they headline in 2017.
how is MIA a joke festival? Look at the first 3 lineups, really the only dud was 2015. Phx was 5th a Lolla so no they didnt headline. They got the bump for Coach and they flopped hard, find me anotehr line up of mid or bigger size that they headlined after Coach. Theyre not relevant now, no way they headline without huge(doubtful) album sales on a new one.
2015 and 2016 were off years for MIA, prior to 2015 it was solid but look at the billings from 2015 to now. I think Phoenix returning in 2017 will still get people excited, it could honestly go either way but some of you guys are underestimating how popular some of their songs are. That one album Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix is still popular enough to where they could get a headliner spot. It's not like they're Foster the People, who had a spark, lost it, and are slowly being forgotten about.
how is MIA a joke festival? Look at the first 3 lineups, really the only dud was 2015. Phx was 5th a Lolla so no they didnt headline. They got the bump for Coach and they flopped hard, find me anotehr line up of mid or bigger size that they headlined after Coach. Theyre not relevant now, no way they headline without huge(doubtful) album sales on a new one.
2015 and 2016 were off years for MIA, prior to 2015 it was solid but look at the billings from 2015 to now. I think Phoenix returning in 2017 will still get people excited, it could honestly go either way but some of you guys are underestimating how popular some of their songs are. That one album Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix is still popular enough to where they could get a headliner spot. It's not like they're Foster the People, who had a spark, lost it, and are slowly being forgotten about.
Phoenix isn't going to suddenly make the jump to headliner status because of the success of an album that was released 7 years ago. They need to release another Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (in terms of commercial success) in order to receive the necessary boost in popularity. Bankrupt! clearly didn't do the job.
2015 and 2016 were off years for MIA, prior to 2015 it was solid but look at the billings from 2015 to now. I think Phoenix returning in 2017 will still get people excited, it could honestly go either way but some of you guys are underestimating how popular some of their songs are. That one album Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix is still popular enough to where they could get a headliner spot. It's not like they're Foster the People, who had a spark, lost it, and are slowly being forgotten about.
Phoenix isn't going to suddenly make the jump to headliner status because of the success of an album that was released 7 years ago. They need to release another Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (in terms of commercial success) in order to receive the necessary boost in popularity. Bankrupt! clearly didn't do the job.
Just looked at the sales for Bankrupt!, it bombed pretty bad. Critically it was slightly better than average, even though I thought it was pretty solid. They had pretty sizable crowds at Lolla and Roo when I saw them, but clearly they've declined in popularity a lot. Geez. Hard to say hot in this industry. Well I hope they get at least a Top 7 slot, because they're pretty fantastic live.
Phoenix isn't going to suddenly make the jump to headliner status because of the success of an album that was released 7 years ago. They need to release another Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (in terms of commercial success) in order to receive the necessary boost in popularity. Bankrupt! clearly didn't do the job.
Just looked at the sales for Bankrupt!, it bombed pretty bad. Critically it was slightly better than average, even though I thought it was pretty solid. They had pretty sizable crowds at Lolla and Roo when I saw them, but clearly they've declined in popularity a lot. Geez. Hard to say hot in this industry. Well I hope they get at least a Top 7 slot, because they're pretty fantastic live.
I wouldn't say they've necessarily declined in popularity. They've more or less plateaued.
you either live in the burbs or are a millennial if you dont think Philly is a hip hop city. Granted the music scene has blown up in recent years.
i mean i guess its just the college environment of center city that i live in. every week i see multiple punk/alt basement shows, so i guess thats just what my mind automatically associates philly with.
Everyone we (ne215 and I) grew up with were into some form of hip hop. There is def also a alt rock, grunge, punk scene that is blowing up, but hip hop has always been the blood of the city. There is then all these annoying girlfriends and wives that love Kenny Chesney and pretend to be country.
Ne215 and I are also millennials. We grew up down the block from each other.
Everyone we (ne215 and I) grew up with were into some form of hip hop. There is def also a alt rock, grunge, punk scene that is blowing up, but hip hop has always been the blood of the city. There is then all these annoying girlfriends and wives that love Kenny Chesney and pretend to be country.
Ne215 and I are also millennials. We grew up down the block from each other.
LCD Soundsystem playing Hangout? Doesn't appeal to the youngins, but it appeals to me and other people with good taste in music. Maybe Hangout is switching it up a bit. I really doubt Phoenix is demoted though, it's just silly. I know that Bankrupt! wasn't quite the hit some fests were thinking about, but they're still popular, it's been 4 years since their last album, and last time proved they can headline. I just don't think they'll be on this lineup, because Shaky Knees is rumored to have them. That would violate radius clause. The Killers have to be taking a break at some point to actually write the new album right? I mean they've done a bunch of fests during their hiatus, but I'm not expecting them at a fest in 2017 unless they have new material. 5 years without a new album(I believe that was when Battle Born came out).
So aside from the rumored/confirmed Mumford and Sons, and 21 pilots(probably a 4, but could easily sneak in at 3). There should be some nice surprises in the coming weeks.
Several bands played both Shaky Knees and Hangout last year (Foals, Florence, SSPU) so the radius clause doesn't apply. Atlanta is too far away.
Everyone we (ne215 and I) grew up with were into some form of hip hop. There is def also a alt rock, grunge, punk scene that is blowing up, but hip hop has always been the blood of the city. There is then all these annoying girlfriends and wives that love Kenny Chesney and pretend to be country.
Ne215 and I are also millennials. We grew up down the block from each other.
Everyone we (ne215 and I) grew up with were into some form of hip hop. There is def also a alt rock, grunge, punk scene that is blowing up, but hip hop has always been the blood of the city. There is then all these annoying girlfriends and wives that love Kenny Chesney and pretend to be country.
Ne215 and I are also millennials. We grew up down the block from each other.
i dont know, i dont follow that stuff. I always assumed it was kids born in the 90's and later. I sure dont view myself as a millennial. But for the record im not the same age as cmacks old as, im still only 29!