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I’m anticipating a job offer to come by the end of the week. They asked for my references yesterday and my passport to verify my work rights. So those are pretty sure fire signs that an offer is coming.
It’s with an international arcade/bowling company. They’re a bit of a legacy brand here and not a “typical” industry like retail or banking or something kinda boring (to me). So it still kinda aligns with future work goals for me, which is working in entertainment (which is obviously not happening right now).
Anyways, a TV station has a marketing role they just posted that I’m super qualified for and being TV would keep me closer to the live entertainment industry I want to be in. If I know an offer may be coming, is it poor form to still apply for the TV job?? What if I actually get an interview? Would it make me terrible to still take the interview?
What if I get this job and hate it? For such a fun product the company seems very corporate and stale. Esp after my last job where I was going to opening nights and getting free concert tickets. 😔 I need a job, so I’m not going to turn it down. But I feel like it’s not the right move for me and I’m having real doubts about it. But again, I’ve been unemployed for 4 months now with no unemployment assistance, so I’m really in no position to say no to a job offer.
Ugh.
What's keeping you from applying to the other job, if it's one you want more? Would it suck for the people at Job #1 if you got Job #2 and ended up going with them instead? Sure. But A) is that a good enough reason to spend the majority of your time for who knows how long at a place that's taking you in the wrong direction? And B) is that a good enough reason to turn down a job offer while you're not bringing any money in?
For me, the answers to those questions are easily no and no. And I say this as someone who has been on the shit end of that stick and has had employees quit after a week or two. Apply for the job. You may not get it or you may interview and end up liking it less than Job #1. But go confidently in the direction of your dreams and shit.
I’m anticipating a job offer to come by the end of the week. They asked for my references yesterday and my passport to verify my work rights. So those are pretty sure fire signs that an offer is coming.
It’s with an international arcade/bowling company. They’re a bit of a legacy brand here and not a “typical” industry like retail or banking or something kinda boring (to me). So it still kinda aligns with future work goals for me, which is working in entertainment (which is obviously not happening right now).
Anyways, a TV station has a marketing role they just posted that I’m super qualified for and being TV would keep me closer to the live entertainment industry I want to be in. If I know an offer may be coming, is it poor form to still apply for the TV job?? What if I actually get an interview? Would it make me terrible to still take the interview?
What if I get this job and hate it? For such a fun product the company seems very corporate and stale. Esp after my last job where I was going to opening nights and getting free concert tickets. 😔 I need a job, so I’m not going to turn it down. But I feel like it’s not the right move for me and I’m having real doubts about it. But again, I’ve been unemployed for 4 months now with no unemployment assistance, so I’m really in no position to say no to a job offer.
Ugh.
What's keeping you from applying to the other job, if it's one you want more? Would it suck for the people at Job #1 if you got Job #2 and ended up going with them instead? Sure. But A) is that a good enough reason to spend the majority of your time for who knows how long at a place that's taking you in the wrong direction? And B) is that a good enough reason to turn down a job offer while you're not bringing any money in?
For me, the answers to those questions are easily no and no. And I say this as someone who has been on the shit end of that stick and has had employees quit after a week or two. Apply for the job. You may not get it or you may interview and end up liking it less than Job #1. But go confidently in the direction of your dreams and shit.
I applied to it. But the bolded is more so my concern. I'd feel pretty bad if I went through this whole process, got the job, started, and in two weeks got offered the TV station job and just left these people to start interviewing all over again. But surely I'm not the first, nor the last, person to get a job and after a few weeks decide it's not a good fit. I wish there was like a lemon law for jobs lol. 😂
But you're right. I can't turn down a job right now based on the slightest possibility of a better job out there, but I also shouldn't feel obligated to stay in a position that leads me down the wrong road.
What's keeping you from applying to the other job, if it's one you want more? Would it suck for the people at Job #1 if you got Job #2 and ended up going with them instead? Sure. But A) is that a good enough reason to spend the majority of your time for who knows how long at a place that's taking you in the wrong direction? And B) is that a good enough reason to turn down a job offer while you're not bringing any money in?
For me, the answers to those questions are easily no and no. And I say this as someone who has been on the shit end of that stick and has had employees quit after a week or two. Apply for the job. You may not get it or you may interview and end up liking it less than Job #1. But go confidently in the direction of your dreams and shit.
I applied to it. But the bolded is more so my concern. I'd feel pretty bad if I went through this whole process, got the job, started, and in two weeks got offered the TV station job and just left these people to start interviewing all over again. But surely I'm not the first, nor the last, person to get a job and after a few weeks decide it's not a good fit. I wish there was like a lemon law for jobs lol. 😂
But you're right. I can't turn down a job right now based on the slightest possibility of a better job out there, but I also shouldn't feel obligated to stay in a position that leads me down the wrong road.
That's fine though. You feel bad (because you have empathy, which is a good thing), maybe they're angry (which is also appropriate), and then everyone moves on in like a week or two. Just a little speed bump.
What's keeping you from applying to the other job, if it's one you want more? Would it suck for the people at Job #1 if you got Job #2 and ended up going with them instead? Sure. But A) is that a good enough reason to spend the majority of your time for who knows how long at a place that's taking you in the wrong direction? And B) is that a good enough reason to turn down a job offer while you're not bringing any money in?
For me, the answers to those questions are easily no and no. And I say this as someone who has been on the shit end of that stick and has had employees quit after a week or two. Apply for the job. You may not get it or you may interview and end up liking it less than Job #1. But go confidently in the direction of your dreams and shit.
I applied to it. But the bolded is more so my concern. I'd feel pretty bad if I went through this whole process, got the job, started, and in two weeks got offered the TV station job and just left these people to start interviewing all over again. But surely I'm not the first, nor the last, person to get a job and after a few weeks decide it's not a good fit. I wish there was like a lemon law for jobs lol. 😂
But you're right. I can't turn down a job right now based on the slightest possibility of a better job out there, but I also shouldn't feel obligated to stay in a position that leads me down the wrong road.
If you take on the bowling job and come to find out you don't like it, or it doesn't pay enough and you can do better - I'd not feel so bad about bailing for the TV job. You need to look after yourself first, I'd be looking for whatever has the better opportunity for long term goals.
When I got my current job, I was still sending out resumes and taking phone interviews literally until I got an offer letter and accepted it. Trying to see if there was a better position out there or better pay. Also, I can think of instances where I got a second interview and thought I was getting hired - only for the company to turn around at the last minute and pick someone else cause they would take a dollar an hour less than me.
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I applied to it. But the bolded is more so my concern. I'd feel pretty bad if I went through this whole process, got the job, started, and in two weeks got offered the TV station job and just left these people to start interviewing all over again. But surely I'm not the first, nor the last, person to get a job and after a few weeks decide it's not a good fit. I wish there was like a lemon law for jobs lol. 😂
But you're right. I can't turn down a job right now based on the slightest possibility of a better job out there, but I also shouldn't feel obligated to stay in a position that leads me down the wrong road.
If you take on the bowling job and come to find out you don't like it, or it doesn't pay enough and you can do better - I'd not feel so bad about bailing for the TV job. You need to look after yourself first, I'd be looking for whatever has the better opportunity for long term goals.
When I got my current job, I was still sending out resumes and taking phone interviews literally until I got an offer letter and accepted it. Trying to see if there was a better position out there or better pay. Also, I can think of instances where I got a second interview and thought I was getting hired - only for the company to turn around at the last minute and pick someone else cause they would take a dollar an hour less than me.
I think this is something everyone should do. But idk about others, but I have a hard time doing that. I always try to avoid conflict whenever possible and sometimes that means doing things I don't want to or feel uncomfortable doing. But I think with your career you need to put yourself first. Even if it feels like you're letting someone else down while doing so. And that's my conflict. haha.
also, re: the second bolded bit. that's super shitty. i'm sorry. i'm bad at negotiating pay and knowing my worth there too, so something like that would be my worse nightmare. my go to line for the salary question is, "the industry average for this or similar positions is ((a $10k salary range)). With my experience I'd hope for the upper end of that." No idea if that's what you're supposed to say, but it feel it gives me the most wiggle room to negotiate up or down in.
my experience w/ various types of industry is that at some point loyalty is only expected one direction, and id never personally hold it against someone for taking a better job, regardless of how much training is put in.
Different question, but related... How long is acceptable to take to "consider" a job offer?
If the arcade job (job #1) makes an offer, the recruiter has insinuated it'll come tomorrow (Friday).
But a different job (not the TV station) just called to set up an interview for Monday....
Is it fair to ask to give it till mid-next week to decide, or would only till the end of Monday be acceptable? I mean, I know I can definitely say, "That's really great! Can I have the weekend to think about it?" But how long is too long so I can see what happens with the other interview?
and covid has really only exacerbated that feeling for me. i think we're seeing the extremes of that now.
The irony of this is that I should be desperate for a job rn. But a part of me is definitely trying to make sure I don't end up in a job I hate out of desperation, so I'm being very picky about what I apply to. Which is probably why I haven't found a job yet.
ive had two offers exactly once in my life, its definitely fine to question it. its really more about reading the person who's hiring if they're cool with waiting a couple more days (without giving them the reason). i feel like most people probably don't like being leveraged which is why id be coy about why youd want to wait.
that said, most companies have policies in place regarding benefits/time off specifically for things like that, so if its just about nailing one job and maybe going to another one within a few days/weeks, it isn't the worst thing.
and covid has really only exacerbated that feeling for me. i think we're seeing the extremes of that now.
The irony of this is that I should be desperate for a job rn. But a part of me is definitely trying to make sure I don't end up in a job I hate out of desperation, so I'm being very picky about what I apply to. Which is probably why I haven't found a job yet.
companies are just as desparate for work though. idk there are certain industires that are clearly not operating (live music) but w/ the number of people playing it safe, the industries that still need people seem to be trying to make it work
Post by NothingButFlowers on Sept 1, 2020 9:53:28 GMT -5
I’m hoping to have the last of mine paid off in a few months, which will be 14 years after I started paying on them. I’d have ended up going a full twenty years, but we decided last year to downsize dramatically and throw everything we could at getting the last two paid off. After that, we pay off the car. Then we throw everything into savings for a year, and then, we get the hell out of this swamp.
I was lucky to only have as many as I had. I can't see myself going to graduate school ever, really.
I didn’t have any from undergrad because my grandfather was extremely helpful for that part. He still helped out for law school, but not to the same extent. As far as it goes, I still ended up with less than a lot of people because of his help and a scholarship, but I was irresponsible so it still ended up being quite a bit.
If I could do it over, I would 100% not go to grad school again right after college. I actually started thinking about going back last year because I now know better about what I’d want to study, but I just can’t see myself getting back into debt like that again. I’ve basically spent all these years paying it off so that I can quit doing what I went to school for.
There's a short questionnaire as part of the application and I have those answers written out in a Google Doc. Would anybody be willing to take a look and see if my answers flow, are grammatically sound, etc.?
Post by T3ddy F1a1r on Oct 19, 2020 9:12:56 GMT -5
Here's a dumb question: has any employer ever actually checked up on a potential hire having a college diploma? I went to Alabama for 4 years, completed my major and minor work, had a pretty decent gpa, but didn't have the money to do the stupid ass internship required to graduate. I'm college educated, just don't have the piece of paper to prove it.
Here's a dumb question: has any employer ever actually checked up on a potential hire having a college diploma? I went to Alabama for 4 years, completed my major and minor work, had a pretty decent gpa, but didn't have the money to do the stupid ass internship required to graduate. I'm college educated, just don't have the piece of paper to prove it.
When I was getting my internship class sorted out (which was absurdly difficult) they talked about a prior student that simply hadn't "finished" the class despite finishing all the course work who said they had a degree on their application and got turned away. I would just get ahold of somebody and explain your situation because I dealt with that before I finished that class.
Here's a dumb question: has any employer ever actually checked up on a potential hire having a college diploma? I went to Alabama for 4 years, completed my major and minor work, had a pretty decent gpa, but didn't have the money to do the stupid ass internship required to graduate. I'm college educated, just don't have the piece of paper to prove it.
I imagine it depends on your area of work, but I’ve had to submit transcripts for the jobs I’ve had since I graduated and for various others that I applied for.
Here's a dumb question: has any employer ever actually checked up on a potential hire having a college diploma? I went to Alabama for 4 years, completed my major and minor work, had a pretty decent gpa, but didn't have the money to do the stupid ass internship required to graduate. I'm college educated, just don't have the piece of paper to prove it.
I imagine it depends on your area of work, but I’ve had to submit transcripts for the jobs I’ve had since I graduated and for various others that I applied for.
i submitted a transcript for my current job as well.
i did, however, exclude the portion of my transcript from my first five years of college because my grades were really bad. after i got my shit together and went back to school for another degree my grades were all good, and my current job was mostly just interested in my business/accounting classes anyway, which were where all my good grades were.
It’s incredibly hard to motivate myself fer my classes right now. It also doesn’t help much that I just don’t really care ‘bout what I’m learnin’ (IT shit). But it’s a field of business that isn’t goin’ away in my lifetime and you can make some decent money. I think I’m also gonna start lookin’ fer new employment in the field even though I easily have a year left of part time school before I finish. I don’t feel like continuin’ to bartend is very beneficial to my education and future career goals.
Post by trantsgiving on Oct 27, 2020 17:13:27 GMT -5
I'm 2 weeks away from taking the LSAT, about a month away from getting my results back. I want to go to Georgia State Law but I think I can also get into UGA. It's not a cost thing, I just prefer Atlanta. There really isn't a scenario in which I go to UGA Law. I won't get into UGA and not GSU and I won't get a scholarship that GSU won't also give me. My question is, should I bother applying to UGA on the off-chance that it gives me some leverage for scholarships?
All my numbers, essays and references should be good enough for GSU to want me and if I told them I got into UGA, would they be more likely to up my scholarship amount? My GPA is currently above their average and my LSAT should be about their average. I have heard of people doing this game of chicken with law schools to get more money but don't know how likely it is. Has anyone tried this?
If I had a Tuesday interview and they said they were "aiming to make a decision by the end of the week," when do you think is enough time to follow up if you haven't heard anything? It's Tuesday afternoon here (so a week since my interview) and I'm trying to decide if I should follow up today or tomorrow. Thoughts?
If I had a Tuesday interview and they said they were "aiming to make a decision by the end of the week," when do you think is enough time to follow up if you haven't heard anything? It's Tuesday afternoon here (so a week since my interview) and I'm trying to decide if I should follow up today or tomorrow. Thoughts?
They told you they’d get back to you at the end of last week?
If I had a Tuesday interview and they said they were "aiming to make a decision by the end of the week," when do you think is enough time to follow up if you haven't heard anything? It's Tuesday afternoon here (so a week since my interview) and I'm trying to decide if I should follow up today or tomorrow. Thoughts?
They told you they’d get back to you at the end of last week?
