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you can blame everyone who went to Bassnectar (or whatever shitty dub step bullshit was playing at the time)instead of nick cave in 2014. That seems to be when the dam broke imo
Nick Cave on That Tent conflicted with the Flaming Lips on Which Stage (both played from 12:30-2:00). Darkside followed on That Tent and Kaskade was after Lips on Which.
Not to mention Frank Ocean in This Tent and Jack White going way past his scheduled time slot on What.
It was about money. It will always be about money. It costs money to keep the stages going and they have shown that they no longer have any interest in doing shows into the morning. 2013 was the last year of that, which is just another reason why that was my favorite year.
2014 had Darkside playing till close to 4 am with Kaskade going a little past that. Oh Darkside, where have ye gone?
Even a Kaskade set (preferably redux) is 10x better than what late nights have been lately. I'll take a redux set over anything Bassnectar 100000x over again.
Yeah it's really disappointing how they cheapened the experience
My first year was 2013 and you had shows til 4am (with some going over) and nearly everyone on the top few lines got 90 minute sets or longer. And in 2016 they couldn't even be arsed to give their few jammy acts more than 75 minutes. You get a lot less for a lot more money, only a few years later
What's especially disappointing about 2016 is they shut down the festival for almost 2 hours, then rescheduled everything to still end at 3! What the fuck was that about?
It was about money. It will always be about money. It costs money to keep the stages going and they have shown that they no longer have any interest in doing shows into the morning. 2013 was the last year of that, which is just another reason why that was my favorite year.
As someone who did't get to experience Roo until 2014 after years of wanting to but not being able to make it happen, this is depressing as fuck to me.
It was about money. It will always be about money. It costs money to keep the stages going and they have shown that they no longer have any interest in doing shows into the morning. 2013 was the last year of that, which is just another reason why that was my favorite year.
As someone who did't get to experience Roo until 2014 after years of wanting to but not being able to make it happen, this is depressing as fuck to me.
2014 had Darkside playing till close to 4 am with Kaskade going a little past that. Oh Darkside, where have ye gone?
Even a Kaskade set (preferably redux) is 10x better than what late nights have been lately. I'll take a redux set over anything Bassnectar 100000x over again.
Tame Impala, Blood Orange, Miguel, Kamasi Washington SJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaskade
Post by Whereispassionpit on Nov 17, 2016 9:45:47 GMT -5
I'd care more about the sunrise sets if it were artists I liked. I'm not sacrificing sleep at Bonnaroo to see 2 more hours of Pretty Lights or whatever other jamtronica band the zombies are watching at 6am.
Post by Fozzie Bear on Nov 17, 2016 9:51:41 GMT -5
I think another issue is that most bands aren't able to play so late due to sheer logistics. If they've got another date or two the following days, it can be really draining and a bit of a logistical nightmare to play until 4 a.m., pack up and transport the band, crew, instruments and whatever production they have from BFE Tennessee. Still, there's plenty of DJs and artists they could put in late night slots that aren't all a crock.
Even a Kaskade set (preferably redux) is 10x better than what late nights have been lately. I'll take a redux set over anything Bassnectar 100000x over again.
Tame Impala, Blood Orange, Miguel, Kamasi Washington SJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaskade
I meant "super late-night". I'd take all of those except Blood Orange as true late nights. Kaskade over any of the Kalliope stuff.
I think another issue is that most bands aren't able to play so late due to sheer logistics. If they've got another date or two the following days, it can be really draining and a bit of a logistical nightmare to play until 4 a.m., pack up and transport the band, crew, instruments and whatever production they have from BFE Tennessee. Still, there's plenty of DJs and artists they could put in late night slots that aren't all a crock.
That might be the case for some, but Ween was bitching that they didn't have a late night set and that they HAD to stop playing when they were scheduled to stop. So some bands don't feel that way for sure.
I think another issue is that most bands aren't able to play so late due to sheer logistics. If they've got another date or two the following days, it can be really draining and a bit of a logistical nightmare to play until 4 a.m., pack up and transport the band, crew, instruments and whatever production they have from BFE Tennessee. Still, there's plenty of DJs and artists they could put in late night slots that aren't all a crock.
That might be the case for some, but Ween was bitching that they didn't have a late night set and that they HAD to stop playing when they were scheduled to stop. So some bands don't feel that way for sure.
It's very evident Bonnaroo is moving in a more traditional-festival direction, which is a shame since their venue gives them the rare opportunity to curate late-night lineups and festivities.
Post by eclecticmusicdude89 on Nov 17, 2016 10:06:28 GMT -5
In addition to the LN lengths, I miss when bands were closing a stage and left a little later because they had more to play or were just feeling it. It felt weird seeing Ween wrap up after 75 min. I was like....they have more and I know there's some dead heads here, but I was much more excited for Ween. There were some other acts that were limited too, and clearly wanted to keep playing. I hope one of these changes back.
I think another issue is that most bands aren't able to play so late due to sheer logistics. If they've got another date or two the following days, it can be really draining and a bit of a logistical nightmare to play until 4 a.m., pack up and transport the band, crew, instruments and whatever production they have from BFE Tennessee. Still, there's plenty of DJs and artists they could put in late night slots that aren't all a crock.
That might be the case for some, but Ween was bitching that they didn't have a late night set and that they HAD to stop playing when they were scheduled to stop. So some bands don't feel that way for sure.
That might be the case for some, but Ween was bitching that they didn't have a late night set and that they HAD to stop playing when they were scheduled to stop. So some bands don't feel that way for sure.
Ween not getting a late night was inexplicable.
They should have put ween on Saturday night. Saturday LN was super weak this year.
It was about money. It will always be about money. It costs money to keep the stages going and they have shown that they no longer have any interest in doing shows into the morning. 2013 was the last year of that, which is just another reason why that was my favorite year.
2014 had Darkside playing till close to 4 am with Kaskade going a little past that. Oh Darkside, where have ye gone?
I was at that Darkside set. Did it really go till 4am? I was so hypnotized by the music at that point. It's sets like those and The xx---> AnCo---> Pretty Lights that truly make me appreciate Bonnaroo's ability to have music all night. If we got even half of what we had in 2013 I'd be excited. Bonnaroo has lowered my expectations so much over the past year.
2014 had Darkside playing till close to 4 am with Kaskade going a little past that. Oh Darkside, where have ye gone?
I was at that Darkside set. Did it really go till 4am? I was so hypnotized by the music at that point. It's sets like those and The xx---> AnCo---> Pretty Lights that truly make me appreciate Bonnaroo's ability to have music all night. If we got even half of what we had in 2013 I'd be excited. Bonnaroo has lowered my expectations so much over the past year.
I distinctly remember looking at my phone once it was done because I was so out of it while the show was going on, and it was somewhere around 3:50. My buddy and I stumbled over to Kaskade to find our group, and I think we stayed there for like another 20-30 minutes.
These are all obviously rough estimates, I won't go into too many details about my mental state during Darkside. I'll just say that accuracy wouldn't have been my forte that night.
2014 had Darkside playing till close to 4 am with Kaskade going a little past that. Oh Darkside, where have ye gone?
I was at that Darkside set. Did it really go till 4am? I was so hypnotized by the music at that point. It's sets like those and The xx---> AnCo---> Pretty Lights that truly make me appreciate Bonnaroo's ability to have music all night. If we got even half of what we had in 2013 I'd be excited. Bonnaroo has lowered my expectations so much over the past year.
Yeah Darkside played until like 4:00 ish. Went to Kaskade who was supposed to wrap up at 4:45, and went until at least 5:30. I was pretty out of it, but I'm pretty sure he played until around 5:30. That was a surprise that he was actually decent. Had no plans of seeing him, but hell if it's there and I still have an ounce of energy....why the hell not? Bring back the "why the hell not?!" Roo.
That might be the case for some, but Ween was bitching that they didn't have a late night set and that they HAD to stop playing when they were scheduled to stop. So some bands don't feel that way for sure.
Ween not getting a late night was inexplicable.
Seems like every year Roo books an act that seems obvious for an LN spot but it doesn't happen (PTM in 2013, UM in 2014, Jamie XX in 2015)
They should have put ween on Saturday night. Saturday LN was super weak this year.
Agreed, Saturday 2016 was far and away the most disappointing late night I've experienced at Bonnaroo. And Ween not getting a LN further proves the theory that Bonnaroo doesn't want to book LN bands that will play past their timeslot. Because if Ween had a LN they are the type of band that would just keep playing regardless of what they are told, and if Bonnaroo wanted to shut them down they'd have to kill the power.
I would like very much for St. Vincent to release a new album and then play LN Which. I don't know if she's quite big enough for that but I feel like that could end up being one of the best sets of the year.
Phoenix changed their profile picture and cover photo to this:
possibility? "signing off?" discuss.
Also, MMJ new song. possibility? that'd be neat wouldn't it!?
Phoenix is expected to drop a new album next year, and they have already been announced for a couple of European festivals. Unfortunately, they are rumored to headline Shaky Knees, which would preclude them from playing Bonnaroo. Regarding MMJ, I think it's more likely Bonnaroo books Jim James solo since he just released a new album and MMJ just played in 2015.
I would like very much for St. Vincent to release a new album and then play LN Which. I don't know if she's quite big enough for that but I feel like that could end up being one of the best sets of the year.
St. Vincent should be on the What next time. She's played this solo, and with David Bryne. Last time she was on the Which with David Bryne at like 7:30. So she should be on the What. She's a proven festival act at this point and has a good rapport with Roo's fanbase.
I would like very much for St. Vincent to release a new album and then play LN Which. I don't know if she's quite big enough for that but I feel like that could end up being one of the best sets of the year.
St. Vincent should be on the What next time. She's played this solo, and with David Bryne. Last time she was on the Which with David Bryne at like 7:30. So she should be on the What. She's a proven festival act at this point and has a good rapport with Roo's fanbase.
I would like very much for St. Vincent to release a new album and then play LN Which. I don't know if she's quite big enough for that but I feel like that could end up being one of the best sets of the year.
St. Vincent should be on the What next time. She's played this solo, and with David Bryne. Last time she was on the Which with David Bryne at like 7:30. So she should be on the What. She's a proven festival act at this point and has a good rapport with Roo's fanbase.
St. Vincent should be on the What next time. She's played this solo, and with David Bryne. Last time she was on the Which with David Bryne at like 7:30. So she should be on the What. She's a proven festival act at this point and has a good rapport with Roo's fanbase.
David Byrne for the What Stage!
Just David Byrne playin' any stage at 'Roo again would make me happy!
St. Vincent should be on the What next time. She's played this solo, and with David Bryne. Last time she was on the Which with David Bryne at like 7:30. So she should be on the What. She's a proven festival act at this point and has a good rapport with Roo's fanbase.
David Byrne for the What Stage!
According to the article Horn posted in the Coachella thread, a Primavera organizer said he'd be touring Europe next summer but not during the Primavera dates. Maybe the US early summer?
According to the article Horn posted in the Coachella thread, a Primavera organizer said he'd be touring Europe next summer but not during the Primavera dates. Maybe the US early summer?
Well I hope he doesn't play Bonnaroo until 2018 for entirely selfish reasons.
Bonnaroo 2014 Saturday LN: The Flaming Lips Frank Ocean Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Skrillex Superjam Kaskade The Glitch Mob Darkside
(I believe Zedd was originally scheduled as well but got moved to Pre-HL Which)...Music basically went until 5am and mostly did. It overlap with the headliner (Jack White)
Bonnaroo 2016 Saturday LN: Kamasi Superjam Miguel Big Grams RL Grime Adventure Club
Music basically ended at 3am (I don't count the stupid Kalliope) and most of the music overlapped with Pearl Jam
That's a huge drop off in 2 years IMO
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Bonnaroo 2014 Saturday LN: The Flaming Lips Frank Ocean Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Skrillex Superjam Kaskade The Glitch Mob Darkside
(I believe Zedd was originally scheduled as well but got moved to Pre-HL Which)...Music basically went until 5am and mostly did. It overlap with the headliner (Jack White)
Bonnaroo 2016 Saturday LN: Kamasi Superjam Miguel Big Grams RL Grime Adventure Club
Music basically ended at 3am (I don't count the stupid Kalliope) and most of the music overlapped with Pearl Jam
Bonnaroo 2014 Saturday LN: The Flaming Lips Frank Ocean Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Skrillex Superjam Kaskade The Glitch Mob Darkside
(I believe Zedd was originally scheduled as well but got moved to Pre-HL Which)...Music basically went until 5am and mostly did. It overlap with the headliner (Jack White)
Bonnaroo 2016 Saturday LN: Kamasi Superjam Miguel Big Grams RL Grime Adventure Club
Music basically ended at 3am (I don't count the stupid Kalliope) and most of the music overlapped with Pearl Jam