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Alright you guys let's like REALLY think realistically. The Chainsmokers? Headlining Coachella in 2018? Not happening. You can give me arguments to why they could but they can very easily be shot down. I'm just going to crosspost from what I had on the Coachella Forums: Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next. Sure Coachella has obviously changed tons and and festivals have changed in general, but still. In the last 4 years we've had 3 of the best rock names of the last 10 years (AF, Jack White, LCD) and on top of that 3 of the biggest rock bands ever (ACDC/GNR/Radiohead) and debatably the biggest/best hip-hop artist right now (Kdot). They've pulled 3 huge reunions with LCD GnR and Outkast. Sure Calvin Harris is cheese, but he's the biggest and most successful EDM star. He's got 5 albums and has built his way through the music scene and through Coachella. It's definitely a different festival, but that doesn't mean PT is just gonna up and book The Chainsmokers at debatably the biggest and most popular festival in the entire world. I don't see him in just thinking "Oh let's have The Chainsmokers headline this year along with two other pop stars". I really don't think this is going to happen and I don't think it's something we should worry about. The only plausible reason is that Sony is paying GV and Tollet big bucks. Even there though. Does GV and PT really need that money? The dude literally had the 3/5 of the highest grossing music festivals in 2016 and has 2/5 every other year with StageCoach and Coachella. The Chainsmokers aren't even as loved in the EDM world as they used to be. People think they sold out and got too cheesy and pop. I really do not think this is happening guys.
Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next.
Because the most popular EDM acts have drawn the largest crowds to the main stage BY FAR in year's past. (Calvin Harris, Kaskade, Major Lazer, Porter Robinson/Madeon, etc). It doesn't matter how much we hate The Chainsmokers, as a producer of the festival, you see that and you continue the trend because its clearly what the majority of your audience prefers.
Alright you guys let's like REALLY think realistically. The Chainsmokers? Headlining Coachella in 2018? Not happening. You can give me arguments to why they could but they can very easily be shot down. I'm just going to crosspost from what I had on the Coachella Forums: Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next. Sure Coachella has obviously changed tons and and festivals have changed in general, but still. In the last 4 years we've had 3 of the best rock names of the last 10 years (AF, Jack White, LCD) and on top of that 3 of the biggest rock bands ever (ACDC/GNR/Radiohead) and debatably the biggest/best hip-hop artist right now (Kdot). They've pulled 3 huge reunions with LCD GnR and Outkast. Sure Calvin Harris is cheese, but he's the biggest and most successful EDM star. He's got 5 albums and has built his way through the music scene and through Coachella. It's definitely a different festival, but that doesn't mean PT is just gonna up and book The Chainsmokers at debatably the biggest and most popular festival in the entire world. I don't see him in just thinking "Oh let's have The Chainsmokers headline this year along with two other pop stars". I really don't think this is going to happen and I don't think it's something we should worry about. The only plausible reason is that Sony is paying GV and Tollet big bucks. Even there though. Does GV and PT really need that money? The dude literally had the 3/5 of the highest grossing music festivals in 2016 and has 2/5 every other year with StageCoach and Coachella. The Chainsmokers aren't even as loved in the EDM world as they used to be. People think they sold out and got too cheesy and pop. I really do not think this is happening guys.
Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next.
Because the most popular EDM acts have drawn the largest crowds to the main stage BY FAR in year's past. (Calvin Harris, Kaskade, Major Lazer, Porter Robinson/Madeon, etc). It doesn't matter how much we hate The Chainsmokers, as a producer of the festival, you see that and you continue the trend because its clearly what the majority of your audience prefers.
All but one of who you listed got sunday night third from last main stage set. If anything, it proves that after four years of booking the "big EDM act" in that spot, they haven't changed it up to giving it to a headliner. Calvin Harris, as by far the highest paid DJ in the world, is more of an exception to the rule. The Chainsmokers are still in the Tiesto/Aoki/Skrillex/Diplo level of booking fee (Chainsmokers were #3 in DJ booking fees last year, others I listed were 2-6, Harris is #1); it would be a bold, odd, and curious decision by GV to overpay them to headline when they can easily fill that "big EDM act" Sunday night main stage slot and save the headlining spot for someone else.
Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next.
Because the most popular EDM acts have drawn the largest crowds to the main stage BY FAR in year's past. (Calvin Harris, Kaskade, Major Lazer, Porter Robinson/Madeon, etc). It doesn't matter how much we hate The Chainsmokers, as a producer of the festival, you see that and you continue the trend because its clearly what the majority of your audience prefers.
Even there. If you have an electronic act headline you have Skrillex, Disclosure, Major Lazer, Tiesto, or Kaskade headline. All of them have extremely good relationships with GV and have been in the music scene longer than the chainsmokers. The chainsmokers 3 years ago woulda played at 5:30 in the Sahara in 2014 if they played that year. Skrillex may not be as radio popular as the chainsmokers but he's one of the biggest images in the music industry. This dude releases another album and he'll blow the fuck up again. imo, he would have the largest (minus daft punk) main stage crowd out of all these dj's (including the chainsmokers). Disclosure major lazer and kaskade have all worked they way up through coachella just like harris did and would he taking the same exact route. And Tiesto may not be what he used to be but could headline and would make sense. He's built himself up to be there. And plus, I dont think PT cares all that much about crowd size. He had no problem with it with Radiohead, LCD, or Jack White. He had no problem putting those acts against huge draws like Dillon Francis, Rae Sremmurd, Flosstradamus. And with someone like Beyonce headlining its gaurenteed that you're going to have a packed mainstage at least one of the nights. PT doesnt owe anything to veterans who want ppl like Aphex Twin, Chem Bros, Portishead, and he doesnt owe anything to people who are only familiar with what the festival has become who want pop/edm. His goal with the festival is to make money, put on a good show, and i assume, book acts that he enjoys and thinks will be good acts for him and for the crowd. But again, he doesn't owe anything to the crowd, he already gives them the best music festival on this planet. I highly doubt he is going to book The Chainsmokers for the monster that is Coachella. Hangout or Firefly is understandable, but it just doesnt make sense for Coachella, especially if it's side by side with acts like the Weeknd and Beyonce.
Because the most popular EDM acts have drawn the largest crowds to the main stage BY FAR in year's past. (Calvin Harris, Kaskade, Major Lazer, Porter Robinson/Madeon, etc). It doesn't matter how much we hate The Chainsmokers, as a producer of the festival, you see that and you continue the trend because its clearly what the majority of your audience prefers.
Even there. If you have an electronic act headline you have Skrillex, Disclosure, Major Lazer, Tiesto, or Kaskade headline. All of them have extremely good relationships with GV and have been in the music scene longer than the chainsmokers.
But none of them come close to having the CURRENT amount of popularity and exposure as The Chainsmokers.
Serious question... did The Chainsmokers album getting absolutely destroyed by critics affect them at all? I know they're still huge but I feel like their popularity peaked sometime last year. I could be totally off base, but I remember when Roses and Closer and Kanye were everywhere and I just listened to their most popular song from their new album on spotify and I don't think I've ever even heard it till now. I thought they kinda became a meme even in the EDM community.
Serious question... did The Chainsmokers album getting absolutely destroyed by critics affect them at all? I know they're still huge but I feel like their popularity peaked sometime last year. I could be totally off base, but I remember when Roses and Closer and Kanye were everywhere and I just listened to their most popular song from their new album on spotify and I don't think I've ever even heard it till now. I thought they kinda became a meme even in the EDM community.
Checking out their google trends:
-Gradual increase over fall 2015 and early 2016 -Popularity stays about the same from early 2016 to July 2016 -Popularity explodes in July 2016 and peaks around last labor day (one year ago last week) -Popularity gradually declines but still very high from September 2016 to December 2016 -Decent popularity rebound from January 2017 to April 2017, but didn't reach the peaks of July-September -Popularity on continual decline since April 2017; now at lowest peak since July 2016
So, yeah, their album was a dud, they keep cranking out singles off the album but nothing really in Closer/Roses stratosphere, and they are still popular but lost a lot of steam since last summer. Seems to me the move would have been to book them to repeat in '17 around this time last year if PT wanted them, or at least book them for Hangout/Firefly. Booking them now - especially to headline - would be an odd business decision (shove it with the "they'd have a huge crowd" argument; of course they would, but no need for them to play anything other than third on main Sunday).
Serious question... did The Chainsmokers album getting absolutely destroyed by critics affect them at all? I know they're still huge but I feel like their popularity peaked sometime last year. I could be totally off base, but I remember when Roses and Closer and Kanye were everywhere and I just listened to their most popular song from their new album on spotify and I don't think I've ever even heard it till now. I thought they kinda became a meme even in the EDM community.
Checking out their google trends:
-Gradual increase over fall 2015 and early 2016 -Popularity stays about the same from early 2016 to July 2016 -Popularity explodes in July 2016 and peaks around last labor day (one year ago last week) -Popularity gradually declines but still very high from September 2016 to December 2016 -Decent popularity rebound from January 2017 to April 2017, but didn't reach the peaks of July-September -Popularity on continual decline since April 2017; now at lowest peak since July 2016
So, yeah, their album was a dud, they keep cranking out singles off the album but nothing really in Closer/Roses stratosphere, and they are still popular but lost a lot of steam since last summer. Seems to me the move would have been to book them to repeat in '17 around this time last year if PT wanted them, or at least book them for Hangout/Firefly. Booking them now - especially to headline - would be an odd business decision (shove it with the "they'd have a huge crowd" argument; of course they would, but no need for them to play anything other than third on main Sunday).
And really the only reason of this was the announcement of their tour and album. Their more recent singles weren't as big as Roses or Closer. They are not as popular as they once were.
Even there. If you have an electronic act headline you have Skrillex, Disclosure, Major Lazer, Tiesto, or Kaskade headline. All of them have extremely good relationships with GV and have been in the music scene longer than the chainsmokers.
But none of them come close to having the CURRENT amount of popularity and exposure as The Chainsmokers.
1. Coachella's main goal isn't to book the MOST popular artist. and 2, literally any of these guys could hit that kind of popularity again with a new release of music. Skrillex has put out like 1 single in the last 2 or 3 years and just hasn't been doing a lot of Skrillex stuff in general lately, but I'm sure if he did people would flip and everything. That's just like what happened when they started putting out Jack U stuff. Where Are U Now was everywhere. They wont a grammy and performed it on the national tv broadcast. Same goes for Major Lazer too. "Lean On" was probably played every 3 songs on the radio and was the most viewed youtube video ever, for a while. Kaskade doesn't even need radio success to show that he can pull huge numbers in California. He did like a 20,000 person amphitheater in SD and the LA Convention Center. Disclosure had multiple songs on the radio for a while had an insane surge of popularity at one point too, like the chainsmokers, and I'm sure once they come back from their hiatus it'll also be a huge deal. Tiesto just plays Hakkasan in Vegas now tho idk what that dude's doing. But really it's just that those acts haven't put out music or toured as recently or as heavily lately as The Chainsmokers have and that's why. The Chainsmokers just put out a few months ago and are still touring it. These guys just need to put out new music and they'd have all the popularity and exposure like The Chainsmokers do right now.
But none of them come close to having the CURRENT amount of popularity and exposure as The Chainsmokers.
1. Coachella's main goal isn't to book the MOST popular artist. and 2, literally any of these guys could hit that kind of popularity again with a new release of music. Skrillex has put out like 1 single in the last 2 or 3 years and just hasn't been doing a lot of Skrillex stuff in general lately, but I'm sure if he did people would flip and everything. That's just like what happened when they started putting out Jack U stuff. Where Are U Now was everywhere. They wont a grammy and performed it on the national tv broadcast. Same goes for Major Lazer too. "Lean On" was probably played every 3 songs on the radio and was the most viewed youtube video ever, for a while. Kaskade doesn't even need radio success to show that he can pull huge numbers in California. He did like a 20,000 person amphitheater in SD and the LA Convention Center. Disclosure had multiple songs on the radio for a while had an insane surge of popularity at one point too, like the chainsmokers, and I'm sure once they come back from their hiatus it'll also be a huge deal. Tiesto just plays Hakkasan in Vegas now tho idk what that dude's doing. But really it's just that those acts haven't put out music or toured as recently or as heavily lately as The Chainsmokers have and that's why. The Chainsmokers just put out a few months ago and are still touring it. These guys just need to put out new music and they'd have all the popularity and exposure like The Chainsmokers do right now.
None of those acts have ever been as big as Chainsmokers, and that's also irrelevant to the fact that they are easy capable of being a headliner.
But none of them come close to having the CURRENT amount of popularity and exposure as The Chainsmokers.
1. Coachella's main goal isn't to book the MOST popular artist. and 2, literally any of these guys could hit that kind of popularity again with a new release of music. Skrillex has put out like 1 single in the last 2 or 3 years and just hasn't been doing a lot of Skrillex stuff in general lately, but I'm sure if he did people would flip and everything. That's just like what happened when they started putting out Jack U stuff. Where Are U Now was everywhere. They wont a grammy and performed it on the national tv broadcast. Same goes for Major Lazer too. "Lean On" was probably played every 3 songs on the radio and was the most viewed youtube video ever, for a while. Kaskade doesn't even need radio success to show that he can pull huge numbers in California. He did like a 20,000 person amphitheater in SD and the LA Convention Center. Disclosure had multiple songs on the radio for a while had an insane surge of popularity at one point too, like the chainsmokers, and I'm sure once they come back from their hiatus it'll also be a huge deal. Tiesto just plays Hakkasan in Vegas now tho idk what that dude's doing. But really it's just that those acts haven't put out music or toured as recently or as heavily lately as The Chainsmokers have and that's why. The Chainsmokers just put out a few months ago and are still touring it. These guys just need to put out new music and they'd have all the popularity and exposure like The Chainsmokers do right now.
On #2, that’s absolutely not true. Tiësto and Kaskade HAVE been releasing music and they’re not hitting that kind of popularity The Chainsmokers have right now. Skrillex did recently release a single and while it’s not doing bad, it’s still being outcharted by 2 Chainsmokers songs. If The Chainsmokers were to put out another EP or even a new single that would probably blow up way more than any of those other acts mentioned.
1. Coachella's main goal isn't to book the MOST popular artist. and 2, literally any of these guys could hit that kind of popularity again with a new release of music. Skrillex has put out like 1 single in the last 2 or 3 years and just hasn't been doing a lot of Skrillex stuff in general lately, but I'm sure if he did people would flip and everything. That's just like what happened when they started putting out Jack U stuff. Where Are U Now was everywhere. They wont a grammy and performed it on the national tv broadcast. Same goes for Major Lazer too. "Lean On" was probably played every 3 songs on the radio and was the most viewed youtube video ever, for a while. Kaskade doesn't even need radio success to show that he can pull huge numbers in California. He did like a 20,000 person amphitheater in SD and the LA Convention Center. Disclosure had multiple songs on the radio for a while had an insane surge of popularity at one point too, like the chainsmokers, and I'm sure once they come back from their hiatus it'll also be a huge deal. Tiesto just plays Hakkasan in Vegas now tho idk what that dude's doing. But really it's just that those acts haven't put out music or toured as recently or as heavily lately as The Chainsmokers have and that's why. The Chainsmokers just put out a few months ago and are still touring it. These guys just need to put out new music and they'd have all the popularity and exposure like The Chainsmokers do right now.
None of those acts have ever been as big as Chainsmokers, and that's also irrelevant to the fact that they are easy capable of being a headliner.
This. None of those acts have ever hit the mainstream as much as The Chainsmokers have, as much as I hate to admit it. Major Lazer is close but not quite as much.
Alright you guys let's like REALLY think realistically. The Chainsmokers? Headlining Coachella in 2018? Not happening. You can give me arguments to why they could but they can very easily be shot down. I'm just going to crosspost from what I had on the Coachella Forums: Give me one reason why Paul Tollet would want to book The Chainsmokers as a headliner for the same festival that had RATM and Bjork as headliners in one year then Prince and Roger Waters the next. Sure Coachella has obviously changed tons and and festivals have changed in general, but still. In the last 4 years we've had 3 of the best rock names of the last 10 years (AF, Jack White, LCD) and on top of that 3 of the biggest rock bands ever (ACDC/GNR/Radiohead) and debatably the biggest/best hip-hop artist right now (Kdot). They've pulled 3 huge reunions with LCD GnR and Outkast. Sure Calvin Harris is cheese, but he's the biggest and most successful EDM star. He's got 5 albums and has built his way through the music scene and through Coachella. It's definitely a different festival, but that doesn't mean PT is just gonna up and book The Chainsmokers at debatably the biggest and most popular festival in the entire world. I don't see him in just thinking "Oh let's have The Chainsmokers headline this year along with two other pop stars". I really don't think this is going to happen and I don't think it's something we should worry about. The only plausible reason is that Sony is paying GV and Tollet big bucks. Even there though. Does GV and PT really need that money? The dude literally had the 3/5 of the highest grossing music festivals in 2016 and has 2/5 every other year with StageCoach and Coachella. The Chainsmokers aren't even as loved in the EDM world as they used to be. People think they sold out and got too cheesy and pop. I really do not think this is happening guys.
Because the most popular EDM acts have drawn the largest crowds to the main stage BY FAR in year's past. (Calvin Harris, Kaskade, Major Lazer, Porter Robinson/Madeon, etc). It doesn't matter how much we hate The Chainsmokers, as a producer of the festival, you see that and you continue the trend because its clearly what the majority of your audience prefers.
Even there. If you have an electronic act headline you have Skrillex, Disclosure, Major Lazer, Tiesto, or Kaskade headline. All of them have extremely good relationships with GV and have been in the music scene longer than the chainsmokers. The chainsmokers 3 years ago woulda played at 5:30 in the Sahara in 2014 if they played that year. Skrillex may not be as radio popular as the chainsmokers but he's one of the biggest images in the music industry. This dude releases another album and he'll blow the fuck up again. imo, he would have the largest (minus daft punk) main stage crowd out of all these dj's (including the chainsmokers). Disclosure major lazer and kaskade have all worked they way up through coachella just like harris did and would he taking the same exact route. And Tiesto may not be what he used to be but could headline and would make sense. He's built himself up to be there. And plus, I dont think PT cares all that much about crowd size. He had no problem with it with Radiohead, LCD, or Jack White. He had no problem putting those acts against huge draws like Dillon Francis, Rae Sremmurd, Flosstradamus. And with someone like Beyonce headlining its gaurenteed that you're going to have a packed mainstage at least one of the nights. PT doesnt owe anything to veterans who want ppl like Aphex Twin, Chem Bros, Portishead, and he doesnt owe anything to people who are only familiar with what the festival has become who want pop/edm. His goal with the festival is to make money, put on a good show, and i assume, book acts that he enjoys and thinks will be good acts for him and for the crowd. But again, he doesn't owe anything to the crowd, he already gives them the best music festival on this planet. I highly doubt he is going to book The Chainsmokers for the monster that is Coachella. Hangout or Firefly is understandable, but it just doesnt make sense for Coachella, especially if it's side by side with acts like the Weeknd and Beyonce.
But none of them come close to having the CURRENT amount of popularity and exposure as The Chainsmokers.
1. Coachella's main goal isn't to book the MOST popular artist. and 2, literally any of these guys could hit that kind of popularity again with a new release of music. Skrillex has put out like 1 single in the last 2 or 3 years and just hasn't been doing a lot of Skrillex stuff in general lately, but I'm sure if he did people would flip and everything. That's just like what happened when they started putting out Jack U stuff. Where Are U Now was everywhere. They wont a grammy and performed it on the national tv broadcast. Same goes for Major Lazer too. "Lean On" was probably played every 3 songs on the radio and was the most viewed youtube video ever, for a while. Kaskade doesn't even need radio success to show that he can pull huge numbers in California. He did like a 20,000 person amphitheater in SD and the LA Convention Center. Disclosure had multiple songs on the radio for a while had an insane surge of popularity at one point too, like the chainsmokers, and I'm sure once they come back from their hiatus it'll also be a huge deal. Tiesto just plays Hakkasan in Vegas now tho idk what that dude's doing. But really it's just that those acts haven't put out music or toured as recently or as heavily lately as The Chainsmokers have and that's why. The Chainsmokers just put out a few months ago and are still touring it. These guys just need to put out new music and they'd have all the popularity and exposure like The Chainsmokers do right now.
Serious question... did The Chainsmokers album getting absolutely destroyed by critics affect them at all? I know they're still huge but I feel like their popularity peaked sometime last year. I could be totally off base, but I remember when Roses and Closer and Kanye were everywhere and I just listened to their most popular song from their new album on spotify and I don't think I've ever even heard it till now. I thought they kinda became a meme even in the EDM community.
i would say no but i would also say that if it was actually decent they would of blown up more.