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Went back and reread certain sections, looked at votes and just at Jaz's posts a few times.
Reading Jaz's posts makes me more comfortable that JR was potentially mafia. Every time he gets tossed back in, Jaz had a comment questioning it and gives some passive defense on it. It also ties to Tainted being whacked, thinking they got the inspector early. He makes a pretty sudden shift on JR on Day 2 too. Then there was this:
I'm at work so I'm still getting caught up, but in general I don't think Day 1 whacks are misdirection unless the Mafia has absolutely no clue who to whack - and in that case, they're usually better off voting for one of the more dangerous townies. A couple games back I was Mafia with ZIG, and our Day 1 whack pointed directly at him - and all the townies thought it was misdirection for some reason. They actually thought I was suspicious for suggesting that it wasn't misdirection. As Mafia the primary aim is to kill the Inspector. So I don't think they were going for a misdirection, and if they were, I don't think they would have chosen to whack Tainted. So I think it was something that Tainted did or said.
After going through Tainted's posts, I don't think he had JR's name. His comment about thinking JR sounded like a townie doesn't really jibe with that idea. He did become more suspicious of JR as the Day progressed, but his posts read to me more like a townie's thoughts evolving on a player than him being an Inspector with a name.
And as for Viking, sure Tainted expressed suspicion of him - but then switched off of him to kill JR at the end of the Day. There's no way he'd have done that if he had Viking's name. Doesn't mean Viking (or JR) aren't Mafia, but I don't think either of them were Tainted's given name if Tainted was Inspector.
I agree with you about the three people the whack points to as far as Tainted's comments are concerned. If he had one of those three, I think it's most likely Danbob. Otherwise, I think it's more likely the Mafia thought he had the name of you, Zolah, or ZIG, and his final vote was just to vote opposite of his given name.
He has his vote on Zolah as the 2nd vote of the round. Throws some shade at Danbob, and subtle question on Thor, Zolah & ZIG.
It's possible, especially considering that after Tainted stacked Danbob up to three, Tainted garnered two votes - one of which was from JR.
Are you thinking that Tainted has JR's name? Or Danbob's? Because even with the switch in the end, I kinda feel like it's just unlikely that Tainted voted along with his given name.
And Viking - given all of your gunning for Zolah last Day, connecting her to JR, etc., why did you open this round voting for ZIG? Do you find him more suspicious than her at this point?
More Dan shade, and then questions me on voting ZIG vs Zolah.
He continues with Dan shade, leaving his vote on Zolah. It is kind of stuck at that point, since moving it makes him give more info. Then Pablo comes out and he posts several large posts. This is exactly why it is good to question people after the reveal and not immediately accept it, even if you may agree.
If I'm wrong about Danbob, then my guess is that Pablo's two partners might be in the pool of other Viking voters - Zolah/ZIG/Thor. Killing me now and clearing ZIG would likely satisfy the town's itch to go after Viking voters, allowing the Mafia to direct the conversation towards JR voters, who (other than Pablo) would all be town.
ZIG and Thor seem to make the most sense in this scenario, given the timing of Pablo's fake reveal.
ZIG and Thor were both set to go forward in the runoff with me and it wasn't looking like many people were trying to vote me off, so if they are Pablo's partners the Mafia would have likely been losing someone today. By fake revealing with my name, getting the town to vote me out would mean they only have to kill one townie tomorrow to win the game. Oftentimes during fake reveals Mafia will clear a townie as town to gain their trust, so it's possible that this is what is happening in re: ZIG, but if Thor was the only partner set to go forward in the runoff, I'm not sure it'd be worth the risk of a fake reveal.
The same 4 as above with Danbob being most suspicious, then a pool of Zolah, ZIG and Thor. However, he drops out Zolah as suspicious and does not even mention her going forward. And this is why I am still stuck on Zolah.
Zolah was his vote, and she moves her vote to him. If JR was mafia, they were down to 2 v 7 and needed to make space. Jaz voted early, but never really sold the vote, and in fact, was a lot more interested in casting shade on Dan. Zolah votes for Dan as well, then moves to Jaz, but does nothing to sell the vote as well, and instead continues to cast shade else where. She was called on it and then posts this:
Just catching up on mobile before bed. I had New Years Eve & New Years Day plans and my kids go back to school in a few days so I’ve had other priorities.
I want to reread again, and should have time in the morning, but I doubt I will be awake by 9:30. FWIW, I believe Pablo. When I voted for Jaz, I even said it was because he was quiet. He didn’t argue or even comment on that back to me.
I was skeptical of Zig because he said everything that I was thinking and did that last game where he ended up being mafia. I do think mafia thought Tainted was inspector, and there was a mafia in the Viking voters because of that switch and Jaz makes sense.
Maddog, yes, I left Jaz off my “list” of quiet players, but I also left Thor off of it too. I was more interested in Potent/Tainted because of the 3 stacking in D1 and Zig because he was quiet and making the power moves. I believe you were the one pounding that one into the ground. I could have voted for Thor to go into the runoff with me, but instead put a vote on Jaz because he fit the criteria of quiet Viking voter and had a lower post count than Thor.
After being lashed out at and come at about possible cheating, and Maddog telling me I could have done XY or Z instead of what I did, I questioned even continuing this game. I won’t be playing or reffing the next game. If I had to guess, mafia would be Jaz, Maddog & Viking but I will get a better read in tomorrow.
She had left Jaz off the quiet players, even though he was, and Maddog called her on it. Thor and Jaz were roughly equivalent on posts. When she made the switch, Jaz had no votes on him so it was relatively safe. Then, Pablo jumped on and effectively locked her in (as well as locked Jaz on her because it would be odd if he moved off to someone else). The above post was made POST reveal. She offered no explanation or defense of her vote until after the reveal, probably because anything she said would cast more suspicion and increased the likelihood of a runoff.
Note that this is the first real "butthurt" post she makes too about quitting the game. Was playing full speed until the reveal. This was never mentioned until the reveal, and yet, post reveal, she has brought it up 4 times in 5 posts. I mean, I get indignation, but this moves beyond that.
Just caught back up. I still think Viking is the most likely to be mafia. Going back to day 1, Viking votes Jaz. Viking got all over me on my 2nd post and hasn't stepped off. Why on earth would a combo of me & Jaz want to whack Tainted? So we could look closer at the Viking voters? He cleared Zig after 3 posts. And I also still think his post clearing MD is garbage.
Back to me. I am the easy target for a variety of reasons, but also because she is running out of options. "The why would we do this" question is pretty self-evident. If Tainted had JR, and JR was mafia, and if Tainted moved from me at the end, it means he may have believed me, leading him to guess Zolah. If he lives and was inspector, he could have had 2 names, so they could not let him live. Jaz was on my list of 6 at the time as well, and hiding only works for so long.
As I reread, I think there is a good chance we win if we kill Zolah today. And if not Zolah, after rereading, I am still feeling Maddog as town, but also Dan as town too. Regardless, I think it still is Potent then Dan for the remaining pool.
I mean, can someone punch a hole in the Zolah theory for me? I just cant see one.
I’m just not buying the narrative that Zolah used Viking’s degrading and chauvinistic remarks as a shield. The way the game read to me, she was responding appropriately and reasonably to Viking.
I’m also not sure Tainted makes sense as a whack if mafia is Potent-Zolah-Jaz.
Ultimately, I think the Tainted whack is the key here. I don’t think JR was mafia, because Tainted would have to be a moron as inspector to make a Kate switch to a given name like that without a reveal. I think mafia (at least with a veteran like Jaz involved) would recognize that.
So that means Mafia had no clue who inspector was and possibly used it as complete misdirection. But I’m not buying that. They need to squeeze more value out of the whack than complete misdirection. One of those reasons, perhaps, was to take shade off Viking because he was “saved” by Tainted. And frankly, it worked. Viking is still alive.
Based on everything Viking has done this game, I don’t see how he’s still alive without the assistance of mafia to be frank.
I’m just not buying the narrative that Zolah used Viking’s degrading and chauvinistic remarks as a shield. The way the game read to me, she was responding appropriately and reasonably to Viking.
I’m also not sure Tainted makes sense as a whack if mafia is Potent-Zolah-Jaz.
Ultimately, I think the Tainted whack is the key here. I don’t think JR was mafia, because Tainted would have to be a moron as inspector to make a Kate switch to a given name like that without a reveal. I think mafia (at least with a veteran like Jaz involved) would recognize that.
So that means Mafia had no clue who inspector was and possibly used it as complete misdirection. But I’m not buying that. They need to squeeze more value out of the whack than complete misdirection. One of those reasons, perhaps, was to take shade off Viking because he was “saved” by Tainted. And frankly, it worked. Viking is still alive.
Based on everything Viking has done this game, I don’t see how he’s still alive without the assistance of mafia to be frank.
Thor >> Viking
Really? Your post makes no sense at all. First, I could care less what you buy or don't buy. I explained it and it is what it is.
Second, re tainted, that could be some of the weakest reasoning ever. So you are trying to sell that the whole tainted whack was misdirection and shade removal? Which worked for what? 2 pages? All knowing that a real inspector is out there to be revealed?
And as for being kept alive, I was nearly killed Day 1 and day 3. The only reason I am alive is because Tainted' s last minute switch and he was killed for it. By the mafia. Jaz didn't switch and he was on me from early day 1.
You have been an ass all game with all of your sensitive bullshit. The only reason I had you cleared is because I believed mafia would not vote together on day 1, yet here we are. Jaz tried to run me from the start; maybe you did too.
Sticking with Zolah, but I have believed Dan and Maddog were town all game. You were on my suspicious list prior to the reveal. If it gets to Day 5, kill Jimmy.
I’m just not buying the narrative that Zolah used Viking’s degrading and chauvinistic remarks as a shield. The way the game read to me, she was responding appropriately and reasonably to Viking.
I’m also not sure Tainted makes sense as a whack if mafia is Potent-Zolah-Jaz.
Ultimately, I think the Tainted whack is the key here. I don’t think JR was mafia, because Tainted would have to be a moron as inspector to make a Kate switch to a given name like that without a reveal. I think mafia (at least with a veteran like Jaz involved) would recognize that.
So that means Mafia had no clue who inspector was and possibly used it as complete misdirection. But I’m not buying that. They need to squeeze more value out of the whack than complete misdirection. One of those reasons, perhaps, was to take shade off Viking because he was “saved” by Tainted. And frankly, it worked. Viking is still alive.
Based on everything Viking has done this game, I don’t see how he’s still alive without the assistance of mafia to be frank.
Thor >> Viking
And as for her "appropriate response", you overlooked the entire point which is that when pressure was on, she gave her "appropriate reaponse", but when she felt comfortable, it's all cheating, videos and anal cosplay.
She has played the poor me, Viking is mean to women at least 3 or 4 times this game to hide because it only comes out when pressure is on.
If you think JR was not mafia, which you’ve stated multiple times, wouldn’t you agree with me that the Tainted whack was misdirection? I don’t see why/how you have an issue with me taking that stance.
Second, I read your posts about Zolah but like I said 1) I don’t see how the whack of Tainted points to anJaz-Potent-Zolah mafia. And 2) I simply don’t read the nuance of the thread the same way as you are portraying Zolah’s response to your chauvinist douchebaggery, regardless of your motive for making those types of posts.
I’m also troubled by your extremely limited analysis of the Tainted whack in general. Despite your plethora of posts, you seem to focus as much as possible on other things like nuance and feel of the game. I think the Tainted whack and Jaz’s posts are the #1 resource we have to determine who is mafia.
If you think JR was not mafia, which you’ve stated multiple times, wouldn’t you agree with me that the Tainted whack was misdirection? I don’t see why/how you have an issue with me taking that stance.
Second, I read your posts about Zolah but like I said 1) I don’t see how the whack of Tainted points to anJaz-Potent-Zolah mafia. And 2) I simply don’t read the nuance of the thread the same way as you are portraying Zolah’s response to your chauvinist douchebaggery, regardless of your motive for making those types of posts.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
I’m also troubled by your extremely limited analysis of the Tainted whack in general. Despite your plethora of posts, you seem to focus as much as possible on other things like nuance and feel of the game. I think the Tainted whack and Jaz’s posts are the #1 resource we have to determine who is mafia.
I have explained it 6 or 7 times as new info comes around including a really detailed post on Saturday in response to questions from Dan. How is that limited and focused elsewhere. I mean, it was the ENTIRE reason I voted ZIG day 2 instead of Zolah, which i was questioned about and had to explain at length. The whack made me feel ZIG was more suspicious.
Maybe if you read the thread and played the game, you would see this.
I’m also troubled by your extremely limited analysis of the Tainted whack in general. Despite your plethora of posts, you seem to focus as much as possible on other things like nuance and feel of the game. I think the Tainted whack and Jaz’s posts are the #1 resource we have to determine who is mafia.
I have explained it 6 or 7 times as new info comes around including a really detailed post on Saturday in response to questions from Dan. How is that limited and focused elsewhere. I mean, it was the ENTIRE reason I voted ZIG day 2 instead of Zolah, which i was questioned about and had to explain at length. The whack made me feel ZIG was more suspicious.
Maybe if you read the thread and played the game, you would see this.
That was a lame analysis you gave and a poor reason to vote for ZIg. It doesn’t help that you couldn’t have been more off base with your vote for ZIG.
If you think JR was not mafia, which you’ve stated multiple times, wouldn’t you agree with me that the Tainted whack was misdirection? I don’t see why/how you have an issue with me taking that stance.
Second, I read your posts about Zolah but like I said 1) I don’t see how the whack of Tainted points to anJaz-Potent-Zolah mafia. And 2) I simply don’t read the nuance of the thread the same way as you are portraying Zolah’s response to your chauvinist douchebaggery, regardless of your motive for making those types of posts.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
I agree with that possibility and it’s a good one. But let’s say the mafia is Jaz-Zolah-Viking.
Then we’ve got Tainted shifting away from two mafia (Jaz-Zolah) AND taking shade off from you, since the Tainted whack essentially clears you.
I wouldn’t put it past Zolah to use this whole argument with you as a facade. She’s good at mafia. And I certainly wouldn’t put it past you.
On the other hand, I COULD see you as mafia demanding the whack be Tainted to take shade off you. You’re so self-centered that it actually makes sense, especially because the whack pretty much would clear you. That’s HUGE.
At the end of the day, I’m looking at who benefits the most from the Tainted whack, and that’s Viking.
Also, most of your posts about Tainted have been you discussing whether or not his reveal was legit. I’m not saying you didn’t post about the Tainted whack. I’m saying that your analysis of the implications of that whack and it’s usefulness to determine mafia has been negligible on your end. As if you don’t want people to be thinking about it as much as say, how much you want to portray Zolah as an opportunistic snowflake mafia.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
I agree with that possibility and it’s a good one. But let’s say the mafia is Jaz-Zolah-Viking.
Then we’ve got Tainted shifting away from two mafia (Jaz-Zolah) AND taking shade off from you, since the Tainted whack essentially clears you.
I wouldn’t put it past Zolah to use this whole argument with you as a facade. She’s good at mafia. And I certainly wouldn’t put it past you.
On the other hand, I COULD see you as mafia demanding the whack be Tainted to take shade off you. You’re so self-centered that it actually makes sense, especially because the whack pretty much would clear you. That’s HUGE.
At the end of the day, I’m looking at who benefits the most from the Tainted whack, and that’s Viking.
I am driving right now and will respond more when I get to the office but are you fucking kidding me?
You can see us making up the exchange because of how "good" Zolah is but you cannot see her hiding behind it multiple times? You can't have it both ways Jimmy. Either she is reeallyn offended or she is faking it and from the above post it is clear what you really think. You contradicted yourself not even 5 posts later.
No, what I really think is mafia had no idea who inspector was. It happens. It’s happened to me multiple times as mafia. Obviously mafia is looking to get inspector.
Either way, I’m looking at who benefits the most from the Tainted whack and it’s you, Viking. I’m not saying I know you’re mafia, but I don’t agree your case against Zolah is strong. She might be mafia. I might be wrong. But I’m going to focus on what I think makes sense - not your hocus pocus.
And to be honest, deep down, I’d rather lose to Zolah than you because you’re such a massive douche. And that’s on you, because if you’re town, the way you play doesn’t help us. You make people want to vote for you.
FTR, the only reason I’m posting the above is for whoever the other townies are that remain, so they can take my analysis with a grain of salt. I’m obviously biased, as we all are.
Also, most of your posts about Tainted have been you discussing whether or not his reveal was legit. I’m not saying you didn’t post about the Tainted whack. I’m saying that your analysis of the implications of that whack and it’s usefulness to determine mafia has been negligible on your end. As if you don’t want people to be thinking about it as much as say, how much you want to portray Zolah as an opportunistic snowflake mafia.
So a Freudian slip here bud? Tainted never revealed because he was not inspector.
I was leaning towards ZIG prior to Tainted getting whacked. The whack just sealed it. In fact, the whack is why the real inspector thought the exact same thing which is why he burned the guess.
And I am not portraying anything about Zolah. She has done that herself.
But lets take the point where your stupidity takes its Zenith:
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
I agree with that possibility and it’s a good one. But let’s say the mafia is Jaz-Zolah-Viking.
Then we’ve got Tainted shifting away from two mafia (Jaz-Zolah) AND taking shade off from you, since the Tainted whack essentially clears you.
I wouldn’t put it past Zolah to use this whole argument with you as a facade. She’s good at mafia. And I certainly wouldn’t put it past you.
On the other hand, I COULD see you as mafia demanding the whack be Tainted to take shade off you. You’re so self-centered that it actually makes sense, especially because the whack pretty much would clear you. That’s HUGE.
At the end of the day, I’m looking at who benefits the most from the Tainted whack, and that’s Viking.
First, you agreed with me about why it was so dumb, and that it was a good one.... OK so why are we having this conversation?
But for random Jimmy reasons, lets put together a hypothetical mafia. And for a REALLY dumb reason, lets say it takes shade off me, putting aside the fact that the real inspector, who in my moment of brilliance, I decided not to go after COULD very well have my name.
Then you refuted the whole point to your first post that you don't buy my interrogation of Zolah and think it was just me being an ass.
And all of this makes sense because I am a selfish ass and the whack pretty much clears me, unless, you know, that chance the inspector has my name and thats HUGE to use yours and Trumps word for it?
And to be honest, deep down, I’d rather lose to Zolah than you because you’re such a massive douche. And that’s on you, because if you’re town, the way you play doesn’t help us. You make people want to vote for you.
FTR, the only reason I’m posting the above is for whoever the other townies are that remain, so they can take my analysis with a grain of salt. I’m obviously biased, as we all are.
You vote for me every time on day 1 due to your selfishness, so I am forced to look past that which clouds things later. You bias has shown all game and it could cost the town. To you, that may be fine because you play by not playing at all, but some of us actually want to win.
Regarding people wanting to vote for me, they actually generally do not. Look at who actually voted for me before you say dumb things.
You had to contradict yourself several times and come up with a fantasy set of mafia and your base reason is just "fuck it, Viking is a douche and I like Zolah, so lets kill Viking even if it makes us lose". Just... Wow.
FTR, I am staying on Zolah. I think Jimmy is just a selfish, whiny, loser. If it gets to Day 5, I am voting Jimmy and the above exchange is the reason why.
There’s always risks involved in picking a whack candidate when you don’t have a good feel in who inspector might be. If you’re mafia, obviously there was a risk that real inspector had Viking as a given. There’s also a chance real inspector wouldn’t have Viking’s name and whacking Tainted would “clear” Viking and also throw the real inspector off Viking’s trail.
There is always a cost/benefit analysis in these types of decisions by mafia. I don’t give any credence to you pointing out the risks because the benefits to such a move are equally significant to Viking if he’s mafia.
There’s always risks involved in picking a whack candidate when you don’t have a good feel in who inspector might be. If you’re mafia, obviously there was a risk that real inspector had Viking as a given. There’s also a chance real inspector wouldn’t have Viking’s name and whacking Tainted would “clear” Viking and also throw the real inspector off Viking’s trail.
There is always a cost/benefit analysis in these types of decisions by mafia. I don’t give any credence to you pointing out the risks because the benefits to such a move are equally significant to Viking if he’s mafia.
Come on Jimmy. I would hope you are better than this. The reason you go for the inspector is because as mafia they are singularly able to out you. They provide a known in a void of uncertainty. Yes there is risk in picking but you go after the inspector.
Plus, you keep saying the tainted whack clears me ignoring the very real fact that if your scenario is true, the clear is for naught if Pablo comes out and says I am mafia. That's not a "cost/benefit" analysis. That is just a stupid risk that is unnecessary. It is especially so considering in your scenario, we would be up 3 v 6 but would have had the inspector lurking out there. You take the shot at the inspector so that you win when you are mafia. Not just go for a misdirect when there are only 7 names to choose from.
You also say it throws the real inspector off my trail, but the move benefits me the most. Again, another contradiction given that he has hard data to reference. You can't have this both ways and in this case, you didn't have either.
You are really stretching here Thor and your selfish bias is showing.
You have also been in a mafia vs mafia fight with LD. I forget what game that was, but you two went at it back and forth and it was deemed that you two could not be mafia together.
also, this regarding any combo of vik/zolah, dan/jr, jr/me, vik/jr, there haven't really been any more back and forth 'arguments' between others. which is really shitty and is making me think more and more that at least one of the less than 20 post players is likely mafia.
I feel like maybe zolah is mafia or not, but i have more faith i'll be able to find the 3rd out of a pool of dan, zolah, thor easier than dan, viking, thor. i also don't think dan/viking are exactly out of the water as a combo, similarly with viking/zolah. thor being around til the end would also give me pause, but everyone else seems to have moved on from that so I'll back burner those thoughts for now.
this is going to sound like a joke coming from me, but i'd like to clear some clutter. and as it's been pointed out, viking has been making a lot of posts that could be contrived and spun, clearing/guessing early, side stepping, undercutting. i feel like he's said all he's need to say, and anything else after this point is going to make it harder for me to read through it.
I feel like maybe zolah is mafia or not, but i have more faith i'll be able to find the 3rd out of a pool of dan, zolah, thor easier than dan, viking, thor. i also don't think dan/viking are exactly out of the water as a combo, similarly with viking/zolah. thor being around til the end would also give me pause, but everyone else seems to have moved on from that so I'll back burner those thoughts for now.
this is going to sound like a joke coming from me, but i'd like to clear some clutter. and as it's been pointed out, viking has been making a lot of posts that could be contrived and spun, clearing/guessing early, side stepping, undercutting. i feel like he's said all he's need to say, and anything else after this point is going to make it harder for me to read through it.
The more as time goes on I realize I really have no idea what’s going on.
Good game all. Well played mafia. As I have said via PM to several of the veteran mafia players reading along, the new players are too dumb for their own good.
Maddog, you would be dead right now if it were not for me. But hey, I got into a fight with another player as pointed out by someone who barely posted all game and whose posts were a mess of contradictions and obviously biased.
I feel like maybe zolah is mafia or not, but i have more faith i'll be able to find the 3rd out of a pool of dan, zolah, thor easier than dan, viking, thor. i also don't think dan/viking are exactly out of the water as a combo, similarly with viking/zolah. thor being around til the end would also give me pause, but everyone else seems to have moved on from that so I'll back burner those thoughts for now.
this is going to sound like a joke coming from me, but i'd like to clear some clutter. and as it's been pointed out, viking has been making a lot of posts that could be contrived and spun, clearing/guessing early, side stepping, undercutting. i feel like he's said all he's need to say, and anything else after this point is going to make it harder for me to read through it.
If you feel like she is mafia, then kill her. Everyone gives you pause so you want to reduce clutter until the town loses. Why are you even playing? Just kill everyone until it is a 50/50 shot?
Its fine. Even though you lost it for the town, at least I know I got it right, and worked my hardest to win the game for us. As I said, good game mafia.
I feel like maybe zolah is mafia or not, but i have more faith i'll be able to find the 3rd out of a pool of dan, zolah, thor easier than dan, viking, thor. i also don't think dan/viking are exactly out of the water as a combo, similarly with viking/zolah. thor being around til the end would also give me pause, but everyone else seems to have moved on from that so I'll back burner those thoughts for now.
this is going to sound like a joke coming from me, but i'd like to clear some clutter. and as it's been pointed out, viking has been making a lot of posts that could be contrived and spun, clearing/guessing early, side stepping, undercutting. i feel like he's said all he's need to say, and anything else after this point is going to make it harder for me to read through it.
The more as time goes on I realize I really have no idea what’s going on.
Life as a townie. Thor is a selfish ass, Jimma is the cowardly lying and the mafia are sitting back and laughing.
As I've said prior, we don't need dicks. (yes I was being a dick but zig was a dick first)
As much as you 'saved' me, you're also the reason I'm in this mess, and I've hid behind people as mafia doing that well enough thank you very much.
There's also the angle that if you're still alive, it's because you've been way off all game.
If you think zolah is mafia, she will be around next, unless you think that dan or thor are the other in which case we have essentially already lost, or you would then be wrong about the 3rd for the 3rd time? 4th? Jr > Zig > Potent > ?
If we whack zolah here, game doesn't end and blank is the whack, I have no faith you wouldn't start suggesting me because you've seemed to be just as easily clearing the other two.
If you think JR was not mafia, which you’ve stated multiple times, wouldn’t you agree with me that the Tainted whack was misdirection? I don’t see why/how you have an issue with me taking that stance.
Second, I read your posts about Zolah but like I said 1) I don’t see how the whack of Tainted points to anJaz-Potent-Zolah mafia. And 2) I simply don’t read the nuance of the thread the same way as you are portraying Zolah’s response to your chauvinist douchebaggery, regardless of your motive for making those types of posts.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
Another lie. At best a stretch. On page 2, my second post was to everyone to clear up the rule stuff. Fawn gave me my pretty title after reffing mafia 100. I don't cheat. I've put a lot of hours in this not only playing but reffing (and even half reffing when playing). You came at me after that post. At least that's the way I see it.
