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Regarding people wanting to vote for me, they actually generally do not.
And I see why people generally don't vote for you. You badger people and verbally assault them. Call me a stripper (among spinning nearly every post I've written, which has made me not even want to post), tell Thor he sucks at his job and call Maddog a coward. It's not fun to play with you. I'm was pretty confident in Jaz/Potent/Viking and your hissy fit makes me feel even more confident in it. I voted for Maddog because he didn't vote yet and I was frankly done with your nonsense and hoped he voted me out. Nearly every time I have made a post this game you come back and just push push push... Since my second post.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
Another lie. At best a stretch. On page 2, my second post was to everyone to clear up the rule stuff. Fawn gave me my pretty title after reffing mafia 100. I don't cheat. I've put a lot of hours in this not only playing but reffing (and even half reffing when playing). You came at me after that post. At least that's the way I see it.
It’s the way I see it too, but Viking is delusional and fabricates things.
As I've said prior, we don't need dicks. (yes I was being a dick but zig was a dick first)
As much as you 'saved' me, you're also the reason I'm in this mess, and I've hid behind people as mafia doing that well enough thank you very much.
There's also the angle that if you're still alive, it's because you've been way off all game.
If you think zolah is mafia, she will be around next, unless you think that dan or thor are the other in which case we have essentially already lost, or you would then be wrong about the 3rd for the 3rd time? 4th? Jr > Zig > Potent > ?
If we whack zolah here, game doesn't end and blank is the whack, I have no faith you wouldn't start suggesting me because you've seemed to be just as easily clearing the other two.
Not being a dick. I am just tired of expending energy on trying to keep you alive and bring this home. I am also tired of defending why I believed you are town from early in Day 1. ZIG attacked me for it and so have you.
If you want to say I am the reason, people are suspicious of you, then fine. Go for it. I feel you did enough on your own and that was before you wanted to kill ZIG just to declutter the thread. You say Zolah may be mafia, but want to declutter first. Its the exact same reason you used last round trying to kill ZIG.
I am alive because the mafia run at me Day 1 didn't work thanks to Tainted, who died for his switch. They TRIED to kill me already. And they tried again Day 3. Just like they tried with you when that dog wasent hunting. Same people who voted for me took a run at you.
As for getting whacked, they had to whack who they did on days 2 and 3. Pablo as inspector. ZIG as confirmed townie. Tainted got whacked because inspector hunting, and it set up a good misdirect given ZIG reasons.
I still believe if we kill Zolah, we win. If we don't Thor and not Potent was 3rd. My 3 are still Jaz, Potent and Zolah. And if you look back, I said Day 1 JR felt a lot more town, so I don't know how I was wrong on that, but ok.
I have said since Day 2, they are isolating you and Dan. Kill me, and we lose.
Can someone please give me a plausible scenario where I am mafia? I am being serious. I nearly got run off on day 1, guessed right on ZIG, Pablo, and Jaz with his fence sitting. Say I leaned town on Dan and Maddog, and continue to get attacked for it. Was the first to point to Thor's vote as a reason he is likely to be town, and maintain he likely is, even though he is trying to get me killed. Saved Maddog from the same people who took ANOTHER run at me on day 3.
In the mean time, Zolah has not had a single coherent theory all game, and yet you let her live because I was mean?
Seriously, this is getting insane. Thor even admitted what I said made sense, but because of his bias, he came up with a fantasy theory where Zolah and I are mafia togehter and is still voting for me despite a mess of contradictions. I would love 1 coherent theory that actually makes sense given the game we have played. Has the talent pool really sunk this low?
As I've said prior, we don't need dicks. (yes I was being a dick but zig was a dick first)
As much as you 'saved' me, you're also the reason I'm in this mess, and I've hid behind people as mafia doing that well enough thank you very much.
There's also the angle that if you're still alive, it's because you've been way off all game.
If you think zolah is mafia, she will be around next, unless you think that dan or thor are the other in which case we have essentially already lost, or you would then be wrong about the 3rd for the 3rd time? 4th? Jr > Zig > Potent > ?
If we whack zolah here, game doesn't end and blank is the whack, I have no faith you wouldn't start suggesting me because you've seemed to be just as easily clearing the other two.
Not being a dick. I am just tired of expending energy on trying to keep you alive and bring this home. I am also tired of defending why I believed you are town from early in Day 1. ZIG attacked me for it and so have you.
If you want to say I am the reason, people are suspicious of you, then fine. Go for it. I feel you did enough on your own and that was before you wanted to kill ZIG just to declutter the thread. You say Zolah may be mafia, but want to declutter first. Its the exact same reason you used last round trying to kill ZIG.
I am alive because the mafia run at me Day 1 didn't work thanks to Tainted, who died for his switch. They TRIED to kill me already. And they tried again Day 3. Just like they tried with you when that dog wasent hunting. Same people who voted for me took a run at you.
As for getting whacked, they had to whack who they did on days 2 and 3. Pablo as inspector. ZIG as confirmed townie. Tainted got whacked because inspector hunting, and it set up a good misdirect given ZIG reasons.
I still believe if we kill Zolah, we win. If we don't Thor and not Potent was 3rd. My 3 are still Jaz, Potent and Zolah. And if you look back, I said Day 1 JR felt a lot more town, so I don't know how I was wrong on that, but ok.
I have said since Day 2, they are isolating you and Dan. Kill me, and we lose.
Can someone please give me a plausible scenario where I am mafia? I am being serious. I nearly got run off on day 1, guessed right on ZIG, Pablo, and Jaz with his fence sitting. Say I leaned town on Dan and Maddog, and continue to get attacked for it. Was the first to point to Thor's vote as a reason he is likely to be town, and maintain he likely is, even though he is trying to get me killed. Saved Maddog from the same people who took ANOTHER run at me on day 3.
In the mean time, Zolah has not had a single coherent theory all game, and yet you let her live because I was mean?
Seriously, this is getting insane. Thor even admitted what I said made sense, but because of his bias, he came up with a fantasy theory where Zolah and I are mafia togehter and is still voting for me despite a mess of contradictions. I would love 1 coherent theory that actually makes sense given the game we have played. Has the talent pool really sunk this low?
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Are you mean? Yes. But not only mean, just rereading your posts it's clear you've been spinning and lying. I posted your lies way back when and asked you to post mine 3 times and you still haven't. You know why? Because you lied and I didn't. What reasons do you have to lie?
As for me not having a coherent theory? There you go insulting someone else's intelligence. Jaz/Potent/Viking. You said, "Jaz didn't switch and he was on me from early day 1." Yeah. And he got stuck on you. What did Jaz do early on day 2? Vote for me.
So you are saying that as Mafia, I would have said fuck the inspector hunt, let's kill tainted to take heat off me? That is really dumb Jimmy.
I explained previously that if there were 2 mafia on me and tainted switched, if JR was town, it makes sense since he could be voting against his given name. The misdirection to ZIG was a bonus.
And you obviously did not read the thread or you would have seen Zolah started the whole exchange.
Another lie. At best a stretch. On page 2, my second post was to everyone to clear up the rule stuff. Fawn gave me my pretty title after reffing mafia 100. I don't cheat. I've put a lot of hours in this not only playing but reffing (and even half reffing when playing). You came at me after that post. At least that's the way I see it.
Actually no. I never called you a cheater. And you started the whole exchange the other day with this:
Ok sugartits. You had enough time to make a comment on the two in the runoff and said nothing about needing more time.
But please keep posting. I enjoy playing with cornered animals.
You've been up my ass since page 2. And are you looking in my windows when I'm changing, Tom?
If you must know, I am backing up my phone and pictures to go trade my iPhone 6S in for an iPhone X tomorrow morning and thought I'd come around. I don't have the time to invest here right now, but I'm present.
So not a lie at all. You may have Thor under your spell or he may be mafia with you. And you have Maddog uncertain enough to be voting for me, but I can take solace in the fact that I have continued to be proven right.
Regarding people wanting to vote for me, they actually generally do not.
And I see why people generally don't vote for you. You badger people and verbally assault them. Call me a stripper (among spinning nearly every post I've written, which has made me not even want to post), tell Thor he sucks at his job and call Maddog a coward. It's not fun to play with you. I'm was pretty confident in Jaz/Potent/Viking and your hissy fit makes me feel even more confident in it. I voted for Maddog because he didn't vote yet and I was frankly done with your nonsense and hoped he voted me out. Nearly every time I have made a post this game you come back and just push push push... Since my second post.
See above re the stripper. Hide behind that faux outrage all you want. Guess its ok to cheat and break vows, but call you a legitimate profession and I cross the line.
As for attacking people who vote for me, did I attack Thor or Jaz day 1? How about Maddog when he voted for me earlier on or any number of other people? But we are now in Day 4, and the end is near. In fact, I attacked YOU harder because you DIDN'T vote for me even though you should have given my posts. I can see it not being fun to have someone on you when you are mafia all game. That would suck a lot I bet.
Also, re your Jaz, Viking, Potent combo, if you were so confident, why not vote for potent on Day 3, first runoff? You had the last open vote and said the options were bad. Dad Dog If you need any more proof or clarity at all, PLEASE look at this and go back and reread Day 3. I can cite if you need it, but the bold part is as clear as it will ever get as a townie for you.
Re posting right after you nearly every time, this is a blatant lie. I sat back and watched for long stretches. You even called me out for doing so.
Dad Dog, I can lead you to water man but I cant make you drink. If her comment right there does not convince you she is mafia given that she could have killed potent over you, chose not to vote, and then voted for you anyways, I don't know what will. There is literally no better evidence you can have.
That’s quite ironic considering he came out firing at ZIG in Day 2 and saying he was mafia.
He’s so full of shit.
But I did guess right on ZIG. And as I said in my long post to you, it was predicated on Zolah being mafia. Only after I said I felt like he was town did he go full ZIG to the point where I thought he was most suspicious. After Pablo came out, this was my first post after the reread.
Finally home and have had a chance pull apart the thread. First, Thor, I am going to apologize because this is my first incoming old school Viking post.
To get this out of the way:
Viking >>> Jaz
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And just for posterity, since a number of you attacked me for this
Ok, so here is where I am at atm. Again, I could be 100% wrong or could be on target. Hopefully it provides some food for thought and consumption for the other 6 townies so we can start to feel each other out.
First, let me clear up the ZIG stuff. ZIG has made a staggering total of 3 posts as of the time I started this post; his initial vote and 2 pure fluff. However, his vote for Zolah stacked her into the runoff and was made 4 minutes after she started posting. Nothing ZIG has said makes me think he is town, but his timing and putting Zolah into the runoff are not something a mafia member would normally do. So, I feel like should my current theory prove valid, he is more likely to be town. I reserved comment because admittedly, it is a weak argument based primarily on feeling and I did not want to rock the current runoff lineup.
Viking says he thinks I’m still likely town, despite me voting for him.
However, says he’s going to vote for me next round if he survives.
Does Viking care about winning or surviving?
I care a lot more about winning than surviving. See the end of Day 1 and Day 3 when it looked like I was dead. Unfortunately, since you voted for me, while I maintain you are town, admittedly, it causes some doubt. Hence my interest in survival. If I die, and you and Zolah are mafia together, then we lose. So yes, 3rd time being the charm, I am more interested in survival this time around. And yes, given your actions in Day 4, I am going to vote for you if I live and there is a Day 5.
Another lie. At best a stretch. On page 2, my second post was to everyone to clear up the rule stuff. Fawn gave me my pretty title after reffing mafia 100. I don't cheat. I've put a lot of hours in this not only playing but reffing (and even half reffing when playing). You came at me after that post. At least that's the way I see it.
Actually no. I never called you a cheater. And you started the whole exchange the other day with this:
You've been up my ass since page 2. And are you looking in my windows when I'm changing, Tom?
If you must know, I am backing up my phone and pictures to go trade my iPhone 6S in for an iPhone X tomorrow morning and thought I'd come around. I don't have the time to invest here right now, but I'm present.
So not a lie at all. You may have Thor under your spell or he may be mafia with you. And you have Maddog uncertain enough to be voting for me, but I can take solace in the fact that I have continued to be proven right.
And I see why people generally don't vote for you. You badger people and verbally assault them. Call me a stripper (among spinning nearly every post I've written, which has made me not even want to post), tell Thor he sucks at his job and call Maddog a coward. It's not fun to play with you. I'm was pretty confident in Jaz/Potent/Viking and your hissy fit makes me feel even more confident in it. I voted for Maddog because he didn't vote yet and I was frankly done with your nonsense and hoped he voted me out. Nearly every time I have made a post this game you come back and just push push push... Since my second post.
See above re the stripper. Hide behind that faux outrage all you want. Guess its ok to cheat and break vows, but call you a legitimate profession and I cross the line.
As for attacking people who vote for me, did I attack Thor or Jaz day 1? How about Maddog when he voted for me earlier on or any number of other people? But we are now in Day 4, and the end is near. In fact, I attacked YOU harder because you DIDN'T vote for me even though you should have given my posts. I can see it not being fun to have someone on you when you are mafia all game. That would suck a lot I bet.
Also, re your Jaz, Viking, Potent combo, if you were so confident, why not vote for potent on Day 3, first runoff? You had the last open vote and said the options were bad. Dad Dog If you need any more proof or clarity at all, PLEASE look at this and go back and reread Day 3. I can cite if you need it, but the bold part is as clear as it will ever get as a townie for you.
Re posting right after you nearly every time, this is a blatant lie. I sat back and watched for long stretches. You even called me out for doing so.
Dad Dog , I can lead you to water man but I cant make you drink. If her comment right there does not convince you she is mafia given that she could have killed potent over you, chose not to vote, and then voted for you anyways, I don't know what will. There is literally no better evidence you can have.
So I cheat and break vows? You are ridiculous. Completely ridiculous.
As for Jaz/Thor: You didn't have to attack them for voting for you. You already had me, Zig and JR pegged in your narrative. As for day 3, I started on Potent, and moved to you when Maddog tried to "save" you for voting out a townie. I voted for Maddog, because he wanted to kill the townie. I'm not stuck on only one theory. You/MD were tied at the top of my suspicion list and Potent was sitting second. I'm sorry if I don't have it all figured out like you do. You're mafia. It's become quite clear D4.
I never said you post right after me every time. There you go spinning again. I said: "Nearly every time I have made a post this game you come back and just push push push..." Nowhere in there does it say you post right after me. Just that you come back and push.
Are you mean? Yes. But not only mean, just rereading your posts it's clear you've been spinning and lying. I posted your lies way back when and asked you to post mine 3 times and you still haven't. You know why? Because you lied and I didn't. What reasons do you have to lie?
As for me not having a coherent theory? There you go insulting someone else's intelligence. Jaz/Potent/Viking. You said, "Jaz didn't switch and he was on me from early day 1." Yeah. And he got stuck on you. What did Jaz do early on day 2? Vote for me.
I actually did. I posted every time because I dont like it when people try to lie about me in thread. I pointed them out, pointed out your spin and moved on. You even pointed out I have no reason to lie in your post.
And let's go into your theory.
Jaz getting stuck on me works and works fine. I can see that point Potent is where it falls apart though. Why would I try so hard to save maddog and kill potent yesterday? This makes 0 sense. Dad Dog, again, please look at this. If what she is trying to concoct is correct, why in the hell would I try to kill him yesterday? Dan808 are you reading this crap? Hell, Dr. Joe if you are town and let this slide, this is why I am voting you the next day if we see a next day. This is essentially an admission she is mafia.
Are you mean? Yes. But not only mean, just rereading your posts it's clear you've been spinning and lying. I posted your lies way back when and asked you to post mine 3 times and you still haven't. You know why? Because you lied and I didn't. What reasons do you have to lie?
As for me not having a coherent theory? There you go insulting someone else's intelligence. Jaz/Potent/Viking. You said, "Jaz didn't switch and he was on me from early day 1." Yeah. And he got stuck on you. What did Jaz do early on day 2? Vote for me.
I actually did. I posted every time because I dont like it when people try to lie about me in thread. I pointed them out, pointed out your spin and moved on. You even pointed out I have no reason to lie in your post.
And let's go into your theory.
Jaz getting stuck on me works and works fine. I can see that point Potent is where it falls apart though. Why would I try so hard to save maddog and kill potent yesterday? This makes 0 sense. Dad Dog , again, please look at this. If what she is trying to concoct is correct, why in the hell would I try to kill him yesterday? Dan808 are you reading this crap? Hell, Dr. Joe if you are town and let this slide, this is why I am voting you the next day if we see a next day. This is essentially an admission she is mafia.
I don't have all the answers. I haven't had all game to concoct a theory with mafia mates in mind. And no. You didn't post the lies. You just said I proved your point when I posted yours and that proved nothing.
And I never "pointed out you have no reasons to lie". More spin. I said, "what reasons do you have to lie?" Mafia has reasons to lie. And you've lied.
I actually did. I posted every time because I dont like it when people try to lie about me in thread. I pointed them out, pointed out your spin and moved on. You even pointed out I have no reason to lie in your post.
And let's go into your theory.
Jaz getting stuck on me works and works fine. I can see that point Potent is where it falls apart though. Why would I try so hard to save maddog and kill potent yesterday? This makes 0 sense. Dad Dog , again, please look at this. If what she is trying to concoct is correct, why in the hell would I try to kill him yesterday? Dan808 are you reading this crap? Hell, Dr. Joe if you are town and let this slide, this is why I am voting you the next day if we see a next day. This is essentially an admission she is mafia.
I don't have all the answers. I haven't had all game to concoct a theory with mafia mates in mind. And no. You didn't post the lies. You just said I proved your point when I posted yours and that proved nothing.
And I never "pointed out you have no reasons to lie". More spin. I said, "what reasons do you have to lie?" Mafia has reasons to lie. And you've lied.
Your response to posting a bullshit, obviously false theory is this?
And I love how you are trying to wiggle out of the lie issue.
All of this does not matter if Maddog does not read and get unspun or Thor become less sensitive (unless he is mafia), but I have never before seen a mafia member slip this badly in the game before.
I actually did. I posted every time because I dont like it when people try to lie about me in thread. I pointed them out, pointed out your spin and moved on. You even pointed out I have no reason to lie in your post.
And let's go into your theory.
Jaz getting stuck on me works and works fine. I can see that point Potent is where it falls apart though. Why would I try so hard to save maddog and kill potent yesterday? This makes 0 sense. Dad Dog , again, please look at this. If what she is trying to concoct is correct, why in the hell would I try to kill him yesterday? Dan808 are you reading this crap? Hell, Dr. Joe if you are town and let this slide, this is why I am voting you the next day if we see a next day. This is essentially an admission she is mafia.
I don't have all the answers. I haven't had all game to concoct a theory with mafia mates in mind. And no. You didn't post the lies. You just said I proved your point when I posted yours and that proved nothing.
And I never "pointed out you have no reasons to lie". More spin. I said, "what reasons do you have to lie?" Mafia has reasons to lie. And you've lied.
Would you like to try again on how I could be mafia? You HAVE had all game to figure that one out. And I will even accept the Jaz reason despite his defense of you and him doing the same thing with you Day 2.
i didn't want to kill zig to de clutter the thread. i wanted to kill zig to make them choose between potent and thor, which would have cleared some shit up for me personally, and likely others.
i didn't want to kill zig to de clutter the thread. i wanted to kill zig to make them choose between potent and thor, which would have cleared some shit up for me personally, and likely others.
Just read the last few posts by Zolah. If you still feel I am more suspicious somehow, well, there is nothing more I can do. I don't have any better evidence and have never seen better evidence in this game than what she has posted.
i didn't want to kill zig to de clutter the thread. i wanted to kill zig to make them choose between potent and thor, which would have cleared some shit up for me personally, and likely others.
Just read the last few posts by Zolah. If you still feel I am more suspicious somehow, well, there is nothing more I can do. I don't have any better evidence and have never seen better evidence in this game than what she has posted.
Just read the last few posts by Zolah. If you still feel I am more suspicious somehow, well, there is nothing more I can do. I don't have any better evidence and have never seen better evidence in this game than what she has posted.
Just read the last few posts by Zolah. If you still feel I am more suspicious somehow, well, there is nothing more I can do. I don't have any better evidence and have never seen better evidence in this game than what she has posted.
i think thats a stretch...
FWIW, it is not a stretch at all. In what world would I be mafia with Potent, have the chance to kill you instead of him, and then spend 3 pages trying to convince Dan to kill my mafia partner instead of me. Not 100% sure we make it to Day 5, but you wanted clarity, so if Thor is mafia too, we lose.
But if we do, there is literally no better proof you can get. Dan808 Good luck.
FWIW, it is not a stretch at all. In what world would I be mafia with Potent, have the chance to kill you instead of him, and then spend 3 pages trying to convince Dan to kill my mafia partner instead of me. Not 100% sure we make it to Day 5, but you wanted clarity, so if Thor is mafia too, we lose.
But if we do, there is literally no better proof you can get. Dan808 Good luck.
i once saw dan and zolah three stack potent and then all of them be mafia together. all three of them were in the first runoff and all three fell out. distancing is real and sometimes it works.
again, if the game doesnt end after this, things should be clearer. if the game ends after the whack, then you were wrong anyway.
dan, thor, zolah, lets not speculate on the whack before it happens so we don't spin ourselves into a corner.
WTF are you looking for Maddog? I gave you every evidence you could have. I have tried endlessly to get this to completion. You say you want me to die for clarity, so I vote for myself. If it gets us the win, then fine. I do not agree with it because we MAY lose and I am town, but every choice I have made is suspicious to you somehow.
And if the game ends after the whack, I was wrong on 1 of them. So what? I am town. How the hell should I know. I gave you who I thought was the 5th in Thor. We never really dug into him at all. But I think he is town.
FWIW, it is not a stretch at all. In what world would I be mafia with Potent, have the chance to kill you instead of him, and then spend 3 pages trying to convince Dan to kill my mafia partner instead of me. Not 100% sure we make it to Day 5, but you wanted clarity, so if Thor is mafia too, we lose.
But if we do, there is literally no better proof you can get. Dan808 Good luck.
i once saw dan and zolah three stack potent and then all of them be mafia together. all three of them were in the first runoff and all three fell out. distancing is real and sometimes it works.
3 stack in a first round is very different than being the sole person advocating the death of a fellow mafia member in Day 3 when we have a confirmed kill on a townie already lined up.
Just tired of this crap. If you are really town and are willing to let Zolah say I was mafia with potent especially after Day 3, there is nothing left for me to say.
again, if the game doesnt end after this, things should be clearer. if the game ends after the whack, then you were wrong anyway.
dan, thor, zolah, lets not speculate on the whack before it happens so we don't spin ourselves into a corner.
WTF are you looking for Maddog? I gave you every evidence you could have. I have tried endlessly to get this to completion. You say you want me to die for clarity, so I vote for myself. If it gets us the win, then fine. I do not agree with it because we MAY lose and I am town, but every choice I have made is suspicious to you somehow.
And if the game ends after the whack, I was wrong on 1 of them. So what? I am town. How the hell should I know. I gave you who I thought was the 5th in Thor. We never really dug into him at all. But I think he is town.
Viking >>> Zolah.
Figure it the fuck out.
this feels like an attempt to get me to say who i think should/will be the whack.
i've also given all the reasons why i think each player was in line with jaz as mafia, you were on that list. if you think "why does he all of a sudden think that", it's not all of a sudden. as i explained to zig, I've been just as on you all game as I have been anyone else.
again, pending zig/pablo telling the truth, they were both way the fuck off as far as I'm concerned, and it's very likely everyone has been. i am waiting for the pool to dwindle before deciding i fucking know all. if there are 2 mafia left at this point I feel like we are fucked. if there is one left following this next lynch/whack, I feel much more confident in being able to peg the final.
i don't get whats so fucking complex about smaller pool = less places to hide.
If no one is thinking about switching to zolah let’s lock it up and continue. This bickering is pointless at this point and the whack will give us absolutely no information as far as I’m concerned.
Just tired of this crap. If you are really town and are willing to let Zolah say I was mafia with potent especially after Day 3, there is nothing left for me to say.
