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I dont see a problem with ZIG tossing a vote on JTR pre-runoff and later moving it off him. It’s not like JTR is currently in the runoff, so I don’t see what the big deal is.
I’m also not in the camp of coddling new players. When I was a new player I got my ass handed to me for multiple games before anyone gave me some respect, and it was for good reason: because I was new and sucked at this game.
Unless there's a circumstance we should get rid of them, I like to keep new players until at least Day 2, to help gauge how they react in various stages of the game.
I don't think new players should be coddled, but I don't care to vote for them off without reason in the first round either simply because everyone is equally likely to be town, and I want new players to come back again.
Zig, you say that you moved your vote off JTR after he didn't throw a hissy fit like a lot of new players. To me thinking he's acting differently from how new payers usually act would make me more suspicious than less, do you disagree? It'd pique my curiosity at least and make me want to keep my vote there.
I dont see a problem with ZIG tossing a vote on JTR pre-runoff and later moving it off him. It’s not like JTR is currently in the runoff, so I don’t see what the big deal is.
I’m also not in the camp of coddling new players. When I was a new player I got my ass handed to me for multiple games before anyone gave me some respect, and it was for good reason: because I was new and sucked at this game.
I agree with the first part of this. I’d like to stay around to get the experience and know what’s going on but it is what it is. I understand wanting vote a new player off.
The vote to move Danbob into the runoff and then another vote for Danbob recently has caught my attention
I don't think new players should be coddled, but I don't care to vote for them off without reason in the first round either simply because everyone is equally likely to be town, and I want new players to come back again.
Zig, you say that you moved your vote off JTR after he didn't throw a hissy fit like a lot of new players. To me thinking he's acting differently from how new payers usually act would make me more suspicious than less, do you disagree? It'd pique my curiosity at least and make me want to keep my vote there.
I think most of us got thrown into runoffs as new players and allowed to sink or swim. I’ve never said we should just automatically vote off new players, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong to just seeing how people react to getting votes for the first time. JTR had a vote and we needed stacks when I voted so I threw a vote on the new guy. I wanted to see people’s reactions since we talked a lot about new players last game and I mentioned it directly before. My point about JTR not actingly weird was mainly that he didn’t have a mini meltdown when getting votes, not that it means he’s Mafia or town. Once Danbob made the comment about new players that I felt like were misconstruing what the previous discussions were, I moved my vote to him.
I don't think new players should be coddled, but I don't care to vote for them off without reason in the first round either simply because everyone is equally likely to be town, and I want new players to come back again.
Zig, you say that you moved your vote off JTR after he didn't throw a hissy fit like a lot of new players. To me thinking he's acting differently from how new payers usually act would make me more suspicious than less, do you disagree? It'd pique my curiosity at least and make me want to keep my vote there.
I think most of us got thrown into runoffs as new players and allowed to sink or swim. I’ve never said we should just automatically vote off new players, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong to just seeing how people react to getting votes for the first time. JTR had a vote and we needed stacks when I voted so I threw a vote on the new guy. I wanted to see people’s reactions since we talked a lot about new players last game and I mentioned it directly before. My point about JTR not actingly weird was mainly that he didn’t have a mini meltdown when getting votes, not that it means he’s Mafia or town. Once Danbob made the comment about new players that I felt like were misconstruing what the previous discussions were, I moved my vote to him.
Please elaborate how a tongue in cheek comment was misconstruing previous discussion
I think most of us got thrown into runoffs as new players and allowed to sink or swim. I’ve never said we should just automatically vote off new players, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong to just seeing how people react to getting votes for the first time. JTR had a vote and we needed stacks when I voted so I threw a vote on the new guy. I wanted to see people’s reactions since we talked a lot about new players last game and I mentioned it directly before. My point about JTR not actingly weird was mainly that he didn’t have a mini meltdown when getting votes, not that it means he’s Mafia or town. Once Danbob made the comment about new players that I felt like were misconstruing what the previous discussions were, I moved my vote to him.
Please elaborate how a tongue in cheek comment was misconstruing previous discussion
Remember when we said we wouldn’t fuck over a new player? Good times
You made this “tongue in cheek” comment after Taint and I placed votes on JTR so this was clearly in reference to one of us. My assumption is that it was more in reference to me as I had the conversations last game with LLL and LD. They wanted to save him last game no matter what; my opinion was that new players shouldn’t receive special treatment, and if they die Day 1 so be it.
So yes, I find it curious when you seemed to stick up for a new player about potentially making a runoff when we hadn’t even gotten to a runoff or had any actual concrete information, especially considering you seemed skeptical of LLL’s reasonings last game about automatically keeping a newbie.
Remember when we said we wouldn’t fuck over a new player? Good times
You made this “tongue in cheek” comment after Taint and I placed votes on JTR so this was clearly in reference to one of us. My assumption is that it was more in reference to me as I had the conversations last game with LLL and LD. They wanted to save him last game no matter what; my opinion was that new players shouldn’t receive special treatment, and if they die Day 1 so be it.
So yes, I find it curious when you seemed to stick up for a new player about potentially making a runoff when we hadn’t even gotten to a runoff or had any actual concrete information, especially considering you seemed skeptical of LLL’s reasonings last game about automatically keeping a newbie.
Wow you put more thought into critiquing my comment then I did writing it.
In regards to last game I was skeptical of LLL because she specially switched her vote to Kanye with only the intention to save him. A little different than the situation here.
This: You made this “tongue in cheek” comment after Taint and I placed votes on JTR so this was clearly in reference to one of us. My assumption is that it was more in reference to me as I had the conversations last game with LLL and LD. They wanted to save him last game no matter what; my opinion was that new players shouldn’t receive special treatment, and if they die Day 1 so be it.
So yes, I find it curious when you seemed to stick up for a new player about potentially making a runoff when we hadn’t even gotten to a runoff or had any actual concrete information, especially considering you seemed skeptical of LLL’s reasonings last game about automatically keeping a newbie.
Wow you put more thought into critiquing my comment then I did writing it.
In regards to last game I was skeptical of LLL because she specially switched her vote to Kanye with only the intention to save him. A little different than the situation here.
Really? I thought you would have learned by now that I over analyze just about everything in this game and comment just as frequently, especially when people are posting about me.
So when someone makes a comment that appears to be an attempt to throw shade my way on D1R1 when virtually nothing had happened in the game at the time, and you claiming you didn’t put any time into your comment, it just feels like you were trying to steer the runoff away from JRT and onto me and / or Taint.
Wow you put more thought into critiquing my comment then I did writing it.
In regards to last game I was skeptical of LLL because she specially switched her vote to Kanye with only the intention to save him. A little different than the situation here.
Really? I thought you would have learned by now that I over analyze just about everything in this game and comment just as frequently, especially when people are posting about me.
So when someone makes a comment that appears to be an attempt to throw shade my way on D1R1 when virtually nothing had happened in the game at the time, and you claiming you didn’t put any time into your comment, it just feels like you were trying to steer the runoff away from JRT and onto me and / or Taint.
The logic doesn’t make sense from mafia point of view. If I wanted JTR out of the runoff why would I be so obvious during the first 24 hours of the game?
Really? I thought you would have learned by now that I over analyze just about everything in this game and comment just as frequently, especially when people are posting about me.
So when someone makes a comment that appears to be an attempt to throw shade my way on D1R1 when virtually nothing had happened in the game at the time, and you claiming you didn’t put any time into your comment, it just feels like you were trying to steer the runoff away from JRT and onto me and / or Taint.
The logic doesn’t make sense from mafia point of view. If I wanted JTR out of the runoff why would I be so obvious during the first 24 hours of the game?
Conclusion of zigs logic: THERE IS NO PEPE SILVIA
Sure it does. IMO, you were trying to throw shade on me and Taint. And if you are Mafia, you could have many reasons to throw shade at other players.
Look at last game, LD was all about saving Kanye to the detriment of me potentially dying. Of course we found out LD was Mafia and clearly had an agenda in keeping Kanye instead of an experienced player like me.. Same thing here. JRT could easily be a newbie town, and you or others could easily be trying to paint others in a bad light for voting for the new guy.
The logic doesn’t make sense from mafia point of view. If I wanted JTR out of the runoff why would I be so obvious during the first 24 hours of the game?
Conclusion of zigs logic: THERE IS NO PEPE SILVIA
Sure it does. IMO, you were trying to throw shade on me and Taint. And if you are Mafia, you could have many reasons to throw shade at other players.
Look at last game, LD was all about saving Kanye to the detriment of me potentially dying. Of course we found out LD was Mafia and clearly had an agenda in keeping Kanye instead of an experienced player like me.. Same thing here. JRT could easily be a newbie town, and you or others could easily be trying to paint others in a bad light for voting for the new guy.
Sure it does. IMO, you were trying to throw shade on me and Taint. And if you are Mafia, you could have many reasons to throw shade at other players.
Look at last game, LD was all about saving Kanye to the detriment of me potentially dying. Of course we found out LD was Mafia and clearly had an agenda in keeping Kanye instead of an experienced player like me.. Same thing here. JRT could easily be a newbie town, and you or others could easily be trying to paint others in a bad light for voting for the new guy.
The conclusion of this logic is still the same.
You’re basically saying nothing to see here, move along. You should know better by now because we’ve seen a common Mafia strategy over the years, myself included, where they’ve tried swaying players, especially new ones, to gain allies.
Even if that isn’t your motivation, I don’t know how you can’t even acknowledge that your comment could be viewed from a different perspective.