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As a Phish noob , Carini , is my fav jam. Any other songs I should check out ?
Carini is my jam.
Carini is the closest to "metal" that Phish ever gets, meaning it's a very aggressive riff and song. The lyrics are bonkers, still Phish silly but with a King Crimson "Red" era vibe. It's a song with a lot of great choices.
So no Phish song is quite like Carini, but for more "rock" choices with high energy, aggressive moments I'll point you towards "Chalkdust Torture", "Run Like An Antelope", "Tweezer", "Tweezer Reprise", "Cavern", "Kill Devil Falls", "Wilson", "Punch You In The Eye", "Crosseyed and Painless" (Talking Heads cover), "Fuego", "Martian Monster", "Drowned" (The Who cover), and "Fuck Your Face".
I know people often are dismissive of the studio stuff, but a lot of Fuego is really good.
Agreed, Fuego is a good studio record.
My thoughts on "jambands" and studio albums: since the live experience is what jambands are all about, a lot of times the studio versions fall short. The bands try to capture the energy of their live performances in the studio rather than just trying to make a good studio album. You see this in the early Grateful Dead studio albums, everything feels too fast and even a touch cheesy. But eventually they settled in and created "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead" which are indisputably great rock studio records. So this is how you end up with Phish albums like "Lawn Boy" or "Picture of Nectar" which are filled with great songs, but not great versions of those songs, IMO.
However I think Phish did nail a few good to great studio albums: "Fuego" and "Story of the Ghost" are my favorite studio albums from them (honorable mention to "Billy Breathes"), not because they are chock full of my favorite Phish songs, but because the are solid studio versions of those songs that stand up just fine on their own, without having to revert to "but really you need to hear them live before you can appreciate the songs fully". I still listen to these records regularly, they have a good flow of song to song, good mixing, and they tell a cohesive story from beginning to end.
As a Phish noob , Carini , is my fav jam. Any other songs I should check out ?
Carini is my jam.
Carini is the closest to "metal" that Phish ever gets, meaning it's a very aggressive riff and song. The lyrics are bonkers, still Phish silly but with a King Crimson "Red" era vibe. It's a song with a lot of great choices.
So no Phish song is quite like Carini, but for more "rock" choices with high energy, aggressive moments I'll point you towards "Chalkdust Torture", "Run Like An Antelope", "Tweezer", "Tweezer Reprise", "Cavern", "Kill Devil Falls", "Wilson", "Punch You In The Eye", "Crosseyed and Painless" (Talking Heads cover), "Fuego", "Martian Monster", "Drowned" (The Who cover), and "Fuck Your Face".
Yesss! Thanks for the list and explanation! Very thankful.
it's a rockin' tune, always lights the crowd up. the "can i live while i'm young" lyric gets more meaningful to me the older i get.
it's also exciting because sometimes the jamming that comes from it is just straight ahead type 1 which is cool, but it has the potential to get into type 2 territory which is even cooler.
it's also exciting because sometimes the jamming that comes from it is just straight ahead type 1 which is cool, but it has the potential to get into type 2 territory which is even cooler.
it's also exciting because sometimes the jamming that comes from it is just straight ahead type 1 which is cool, but it has the potential to get into type 2 territory which is even cooler.
What does this mean?
I've heard Type 1 is where they stay in the original key of the song. Type 2 is where they go into, what is scientifically called, "Wherever the fuck they want."
it's also exciting because sometimes the jamming that comes from it is just straight ahead type 1 which is cool, but it has the potential to get into type 2 territory which is even cooler.
What does this mean?
type 1 jamming is basically improvising within the structure/chords of the song.
type 2 jamming is more spontaneous improv, that can deviate quite a bit from the original song. changes in key, rhythm, structure, etc. basically large deviations from the "familiar"\
edit: this gives a good rundown, and some examples to listen to.
I wish I could go back to my first fuckin Phish show. For me - it was genuinely life changing.
This discussion you guys are having is making me incredibly happy. Hearing someone say that a Phish song slaps is everything.
there are also a lot of people on reddit excited for their first phish show. people are posting videos of the lights and stuff. i think the shows will have a really cool and unique energy from all the newcomers.
I'd say it's extremely likely if it doesn't appear in STL
yeah i'm excited to see the St. Louis setlists as it will at least eliminate some song possiblities for roo. although things they play night one in St. Louis aren't necessarily off the table for Sunday I suppose.
