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Post by Cookin' Mama on Feb 9, 2019 9:47:16 GMT -5
D1 I started on Zig and then switched to Potent when Zig fell out. I stayed on Potent until D1 was over because there was no reason at the time for me to switch. I voted for Kanye in D2 because of his antics and a what I thought was him making up things, or using what I thought was at the time super weak arguments against JR and Danbob. Obviously the latter was from a seed planted by inspector. All of my votes, except for the one on Kanye, were right out of the gate or right around there. There's nothing in my voting history or in my timing that ties me to mafia.
Look back at D1R4. Mafia Danbob, myself, and Carini were the revotes. Danbob voted for fellow Mafia Pablo. I evened it up and Carini then voted Potent. If I’m the 3rd mafia, in this situation Danbob and I could have voted 1st and 3rd and completely controlled the vote. But what actuallly happened in the game would mean Danbob and I would have given up control to “roll the dice” with a random townie making the choice. Come on guys, I think it’s pretty obvious I’m town. Go back and reread JTR ‘s posts. There are several instances of him supporting Danbob, etc. He’s claimed to be active in the game but if actually look at the content, it’s mostly short quips, rules chatting, talking about noob things, etc.
This doesn't mean anything. You and Danbob probably didn't really care about keeping Pablo around because of the distancing opportunity that you saw with this very move and if he didn't get voted off it was a huge plus. You guys left it up the a townie and also probably counted on some switches because there had been so many on D1 already. Also looking at the last game and how it was played D1 you probably counted on that as well. This also falls into with what I said about you going after JR about what you perceived as him, "wanting someone to save potent." That was just a play to try and intimidate other townies to not switch after it had been settled that Potent was getting voted off because there would be hell to pay from the Zig.
The last part about me being active is the exact argue I can use against you. There were at least multiple times where I had a paragraph explaining my reasonings for voting or doing things unlike you though. I didn't even defend Danbob. I was going after Kanye for using one line that Jaz said about him. I didn't realized Jortles brought that up because he had Danbob's name.
I also made my list of Jaz whack implications so someone like Kanye would run with the Danbob hint.
Jortles even said it here "someone like Kanye." We all know what this means. Kanye will run with even the smallest things, whether those things are right or wrong.
Yeah the criticism of my participation is mostly fair and definitely warranted. Like Kanye said I've got a new job and couple that with school this is the first bit of free time I've gotten since Sunday before I went to work. But that doesn't really matter.
JTR > Kanye
Kanye mentions that Carini might think he's inspector out of no where. Then again later on he mentions he might be whacked because mafia might think he's inspector. Initially when I read these things it didn't sit right with me, and after my read through it doesn't now. Him latching onto different theories and things people have said throughout the whole game has been unsettling as well. In potent's dying words he mentioned that there was probably a 2-1 split on him and pablo of mafia members from the last round and that he suspected Kanye was the one on himself. I don't consider that evidence per se but I think it's something to keep in mind.
In regards to the Jaz whack, I think we should entertain the idea that it was a diversion. If he were inspector, framing Pablo or Potent feels like it'd be a bit too on the nose. The things that have been pointed out with how it could implicate Zig or Danbob feel really weak to me and not like an inspector leaving bread crumbs.
JTR, why vote for Agarr D4 when you could have voted for either a Carini or ZIG give options for a runoff? Because those 2 names seemed to be higher up onyourbsuspicion list...
Yeah the criticism of my participation is mostly fair and definitely warranted. Like Kanye said I've got a new job and couple that with school this is the first bit of free time I've gotten since Sunday before I went to work. But that doesn't really matter.
JTR > Kanye
Kanye mentions that Carini might think he's inspector out of no where. Then again later on he mentions he might be whacked because mafia might think he's inspector. Initially when I read these things it didn't sit right with me, and after my read through it doesn't now. Him latching onto different theories and things people have said throughout the whole game has been unsettling as well. In potent's dying words he mentioned that there was probably a 2-1 split on him and pablo of mafia members from the last round and that he suspected Kanye was the one on himself. I don't consider that evidence per se but I think it's something to keep in mind.
In regards to the Jaz whack, I think we should entertain the idea that it was a diversion. If he were inspector, framing Pablo or Potent feels like it'd be a bit too on the nose. The things that have been pointed out with how it could implicate Zig or Danbob feel really weak to me and not like an inspector leaving bread crumbs.
3rd paragraph.
I was throwing an idea and trying to contribute a different idea since I was getting hit for not making up my own. I detailed why I thought the stuff was weak about Danbob similar thinking I had on you in this post as well. Obviously I was wrong.
JTR, why vote for Agarr D4 when you could have voted for either a Carini or ZIG give options for a runoff? Because those 2 names seemed to be higher up onyourbsuspicion list...
Taking a shit so checking in but have to agree, Kanye is all over the place but feels townish.
My initial reaction to the Jaz whack is that it was a diversion. If Jaz was Inspector, then he was absysmal and would be shocked if he ended up as inspector, Jaz / Pablo and I basically did this when we were Mafia together a couple games ago.
Combine the abrupt change by JR about Potent, and it gives me a tingling sensation down my leg.
You even said yourself that you thought that the Jaz's whack was a diversion. The only thing different I did differently was expand my thoughts on it and detailed who the whack implicated.
The last part about me being active is the exact argue I can use against you. There were at least multiple times where I had a paragraph explaining my reasonings for voting or doing things unlike you though.
haha. Okay, that’s a little delusional considering you have the least amount of posts of the 4 remaining players...
And if you really want to get a deeper dive on your 60ish posts, it took you 5 posts to make 1 tally and you have a good dozen or more posts that are simply 1 sentence responses. Things like “never mind” or “you gonna vote or what?”. You really only had two posts of substance untilnyue last 24 hours or so and those were on a Day 2. One was when you voted Kanye (I’ve quoted pieces of that post already), and the other was post reveal when you said Carini or ZIG was probably the 3rd (I’ve also quoted this one as well).
And if you really want to get a deeper dive on your 60ish posts, it took you 5 posts to make 1 tally and you have a good dozen or more posts that are simply 1 sentence responses. Things like “never mind” or “you gonna vote or what?”. You really only had two posts of substance untilnyue last 24 hours or so and those were on a Day 2. One was when you voted Kanye (I’ve quoted pieces of that post already), and the other was post reveal when you said Carini or ZIG was probably the 3rd (I’ve also quoted this one as well).
These are the exact things you're guilty of. I can take this exact paragraph and just fill in what you said in the game instead of what I said. Tallies, one sentence response, arguments about rules. It'd be one thing to hear this criticism from you if you had contributed a lot during this whole game but you haven't.
None of us were really talking between Day 2 and the last 24 hours. It was simply us getting rid of known mafia members.
I did some reading after I made my comment about being surprised if ZIG wasn't mafia yesterday and became less sure of JTR. I decided to keep that bit of info to myself until Day 5 started or take it to my grave, because if Carini ended up being the whack it would add a lot of substance to my suspicions of JTR. Not only was I surprised I survived to Day 4, I made it to Day 5, all the while saying ZIG was my #1 suspect.
I have a hard time picturing ZIG keeping me around that long just to hope not whacking me would convince me he's town. If that is the case, bravo ZIG, you beat me.
16) Locking: If all players who are not in jeopardy of being lynched lock, the round will end. Until this happens, locked players have the option of changing their votes. In a D5 scenario, 2 locks will be required to end the day.
16) Locking: If all players who are not in jeopardy of being lynched lock, the round will end. Until this happens, locked players have the option of changing their votes. In a D5 scenario, 2 locks will be required to end the day.
My sincerest apology to everyone about my outburst. I thought there was cheating going on and I was wrong. I would have been okay with getting kicked out of the game.
MVP is clearly Jortles, who knocked it out of the park in his first time as Inspector. He actually guessed JTR on night two, but was whacked before he was able to reveal.
