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Wow, they just looked bad all around. Coming in I thought this game was gonna be a lot closer. If this keeps going, how long before Tomlin gets shown the door?
Wow, they just looked bad all around. Coming in I thought this game was gonna be a lot closer. If this keeps going, how long before Tomlin gets shown the door?
Al and Chris brought it up a few times during the game regarding how that was not the game anybody was expecting. People may have thought NE would win, but I doubt anybody thought they would just steamroll Pittburgh like they did. Pittsburgh has a very patient ownership regarding coaches over their history, but the amount of defensive assignments that got blown last night has to be troubling.
Gonna be interesting to see who gets cut to make room for AB. We got a lot of good receivers on the roster.
There's a lot of quality receivers on the team. How do you make room for all of them on the depth chart? Also, how do you keep them all happy? There's only so many touches to go around.
Aside from that, I know you don't make it to a ton of games, so I am glad you got to hit up one where the Pats flattened someone.
Wow, they just looked bad all around. Coming in I thought this game was gonna be a lot closer. If this keeps going, how long before Tomlin gets shown the door?
I don't know. I doubt Tomlin is feeling that much pressure, but they certainly need to get it together. You never want to judge off a week 1 performance, but clearly these teams were not on the same level to start 2019-20.
Post by Silver Surfer on Sept 9, 2019 9:21:18 GMT -5
I think people are underestimating how good the Patriots defense could be. I got really tired of Collinsworth saying Juju might not be able to be a #1. He's going against Gilmore and a team that just held the #1 offense to 3 points in the super bowl. The Patriots looked way better than I thought they would, and I think this is a case of them being good and not the Steelers being bad. Tomlin does need to grow a pair though and take more risks
I think people are underestimating how good the Patriots defense could be. I got really tired of Collinsworth saying Juju might not be able to be a #1. He's going against Gilmore and a team that just held the #1 offense to 3 points in the super bowl. The Patriots looked way better than I thought they would, and I think this is a case of them being good and not the Steelers being bad. Tomlin does need to grow a pair though and take more risks
You're probably right. They also harped on how this type of dynasty will never happen again in the era of Free Agency. It's really not that complicated though. Have a highly competent quarterback, the best coach of all time, an organization that doesn't really give a shit about taking some shortcuts with the rules and one of the most historically bad divisions in modern football history, and that adds up to being able to stack wins putting them in a position to finish #1 or #2 almost every year during this 10 year run* they were talking about. It's unprecedented, but anyone denying that the divisional circumstance (and conference as well) hasn't lined up better than anyone's wildest imagination could have envisioned is fucking kidding themselves. They'd still be a highly seeded playoff team, but would anyone have any credibility stating that they'd have 9 out of 10 1st or 2nd place conference finishes if they played in any other division in the AFC much less if they played in the NFC? No they wouldn't have any. But reality is reality. And until Miami, Buffalo or New York can build a perennial contender, and as long as Tom Brady is willing to suit up, the Patriots will be hosting 1 or 2 home playoff games after a bye week every year.
Post by Silver Surfer on Sept 9, 2019 9:57:18 GMT -5
I hate this argument. Sure it helps but there's plenty of cases of 1 and 2 seeds losing in the playoffs. Hell the saints lost at home as a #1 seed last year. And the Patriots beat the #1 chiefs at home last year too. Sure we get 6/7 division wins every year but it's not like we aren't beating other teams throughout the season. In fact, every game we lost last season was against teams that didn't even make the playoffs.
I hate this argument. Sure it helps but there's plenty of cases of 1 and 2 seeds losing in the playoffs. Hell the saints lost at home as a #1 seed last year. And the Patriots beat the #1 chiefs at home last year too. Sure we get 6/7 division wins every year but it's not like we aren't beating other teams throughout the season. In fact, every game we lost last season was against teams that didn't even make the playoffs.
Of course you hate the argument. You're a Patriots fan. I have vested interest in them winning since I bet on them to win the conference. So I'm a fan this year too.
The argument is solid. Winning the division is a base goal for every team in the league. I can think of 28 other teams not in the AFC East (out of 28) that would trade divisional foes with you. Again, it only represents of 6 of your 16 games (37.5%), but you will pretty much go 5-1 or 6-0 in the division every year under Brady/Belichick. It also worked out great for the Patriots this year in that they don't even play anyone who went to the playoffs the next 9 or so weeks of the season. And that's despite a 1st place schedule, so it was fortuitous despite the rank. Y'all do have a potentially difficult stretch for games 9 through 13, but even splitting those 2-3 or 3-2 still puts the wins totals up around 12.
I hate this argument. Sure it helps but there's plenty of cases of 1 and 2 seeds losing in the playoffs. Hell the saints lost at home as a #1 seed last year. And the Patriots beat the #1 chiefs at home last year too. Sure we get 6/7 division wins every year but it's not like we aren't beating other teams throughout the season. In fact, every game we lost last season was against teams that didn't even make the playoffs.
Of course you hate the argument. You're a Patriots fan. I have vested interest in them winning since I bet on them to win the conference. So I'm a fan this year too.
The argument is solid. Winning the division is a base goal for every team in the league. I can think of 28 other teams not in the AFC East (out of 28) that would trade divisional foes with you. Again, it only represents of 6 of your 16 games (37.5%), but you will pretty much go 5-1 or 6-0 in the division every year under Brady/Belichick. It also worked out great for the Patriots this year in that they don't even play anyone who went to the playoffs the next 9 or so weeks of the season. And that's despite a 1st place schedule, so it was fortuitous despite the rank. Y'all do have a potentially difficult stretch for games 9 through 13, but even splitting those 2-3 or 3-2 still puts the wins totals up around 12.
Steelers* (yeah but)
Dolphins
Jets
Bills Redskins
Giants
Jets
Browns
Ravens*
Eagles*
Cowboys*
Texans*
Chiefs*
Bengals
Bills
Dolphins
They could lose that second Bills game. It's possible Brady only plays a half in that one.
Or the Dolphins game as well. Obviously it depends on whether they have anything to play for or not. Should they be neck and neck with the Ravens or Chiefs (at this point, I don't see anyone in the AFC South being in the hunt for a bye week), they'll fight for the 1 or 2. Regardless of conference, the Super Bowl Winner in the modern playoff era (since 1990) has generally been first or second seed:
1st - 14 titles (50%) 2nd - 7 titles (25%) 3rd - 1 title (3.57%) 4th - 4 titles (14.29%) 5th - 1 title (3.57%) 6th - 1 title 3.57%)
you can't discount the fact that the patriots do get help by not having to pay their QB market rate
Free agents also want to go to a winner. Older players want to go to the Pats because they know there's a legitimate chance of getting a ring in any season. Some of them will take a bit of a discount to be there too.
I understand this because the Saints have become a destination team for players who want to play for an upper echelon team. We've been on the other side of the coin in older times.
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While I'd love to destroy the Texans in the Dome tonight, I don't see that happening. We usually lose opening week though I don't see that happening either. Odds Shark prediction has it 30.3 Saints to 13.8 Texans and says the Saints will cover the spread (-6.5) and the total will go under 52.5. But they show that the spread consensus is 53% Saints (47% Texans) and 61% Over (39% under). So I don't know. I'd probably take the Texans and the points if I was going to bet on the game (which I'm not).
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