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This is really hard to pass, but I'll be seeing The Cure at ACL and seen most of the undercard recently. Couldn't care less about Deftones.
In the unlikely case this doesn't sell out and there are cheaper tickets, I might get a ticket closer to the event.
Same situation for me, especially if we're indeed getting a Disintegration show at the end of the year. Without ACL, I definitely would've gone. But Mogwai is the only artist on here who I both haven't seen and would really want to.
Hope everyone has a great time, though. If they can throw a thing like this on the Rose Bowl grounds each year, then I don't think we need Arroyo Seco anymore anyway.
Based on interviews, this appears to be taking the place of an LA-area Disintegration show.
Post by dreadpirateroberts on May 16, 2019 22:01:57 GMT -5
A while back, Robert said he was looking into doing LA and NYC Disintegration anniversary shows later this year. However, that changed and he said he didn’t want to do them anymore. So, I guess this LA show makes up for that. He also confirmed that they would be touring America next year in support of the new album. I wouldn’t be surprised if it took place in the early summer like their 2016 tour did, so they can play a fest or two like Roo.
11/19: Caribou 11/22: Ranger Trucco 11/29: Armand Van Helden* 1/16: L'Impératrice 1/30: Jamie xx 2/1: DJ Seinfeld 2/7: Mild Minds* 3/1: Father John Misty* 3/19: Confidence Man 3/23: DARKSIDE 5/8: Rüfüs Du Sol
* = Still need to buy tix
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Post by scenicworld on May 17, 2019 14:27:48 GMT -5
You can still add the max number of tickets as of 12:25 but I did notice that the ticket types now say SAT GA/VIP instead of just GA/VIP which is just further insinuating that there is a second day on deck of it does sell well enough.
I'm actually surprised that tickets don't appear to be moving.
Post by WhyTheLongFace on May 18, 2019 13:44:40 GMT -5
I don’t know why y’all thought this would be an instant sell out/second date added. It will be well attended and possibly sell out but you aren’t guaranteed to make your money back if you can’t go.
Guys this is at a WAY bigger venue than Just Like Heaven. The venue can hold 90,000. Queen Mary in Long Beach holds 15,000. So this theoretically could have already sold more then JLH—we won’t know unless they release attendance figures after the show.
Post by thepiratepenguin on Sept 1, 2019 11:12:38 GMT -5
Snagged a pretty cheap ticket for this yesterday. Lots of complaints about entry, although apparently I got off easy only waiting 30-40 minutes.
The Cure were in fine form, largely the same set they've been performing at other festivals but that was to be expected. "Burn" is way fiercer than it was when I saw them in 2016. I think my second favorite set might have been Chelsea Wolfe. She's so badass. That tent was way too small, though. Even Coachella's Gobi Tent is easily twice as big as that thing.
Food was great; way more options than they were indicating on the website.
Guys this is at a WAY bigger venue than Just Like Heaven. The venue can hold 90,000. Queen Mary in Long Beach holds 15,000. So this theoretically could have already sold more then JLH—we won’t know unless they release attendance figures after the show.
The 90,000 figure was if they were ever able to have a truly large scale event on the grounds. And that wouldve included using the Rose Bowl itself as a stage. Arroyo last year had 25,000 or so, and this was using even less space than that. So it was in the 15k a 20k range for sure.
I just think its interesting that The Cure could draw 50k+ over 3 solo shows, and with prices close to this for a prime seat. yet this having multiple bands and such wasnt able to perform how they had hoped. But anyway, the event page on fb is a hot mess. Every complaint you can think of is there. Some are warranted for sure. Did talk to somebody yesterday and they said that they didnt expect there to be like a third of the crowd trying to come in right when gates opened. They figured the weather and such would make attendees slowly trickle in, which is true to an extent for lots of fests when theres less than ideal conditions. If there were 2 entrances, there is not hour long eait to get it, but no reason as to why that didnt happening since Arroyo Seco had 2 entrances. : shrug :
Snagged a pretty cheap ticket for this yesterday. Lots of complaints about entry, although apparently I got off easy only waiting 30-40 minutes.
The Cure were in fine form, largely the same set they've been performing at other festivals but that was to be expected. "Burn" is way fiercer than it was when I saw them in 2016. I think my second favorite set might have been Chelsea Wolfe. She's so badass. That tent was way too small, though. Even Coachella's Gobi Tent is easily twice as big as that thing.
Food was great; way more options than they were indicating on the website.
Just curious - how did you get a cheap ticket to this one? I was monitoring pretty closely but StubHub and ticket sites never dropped past ~$125 (and since SH fees are egregious, it's essentially even with a $150 from GV). So I just bought face the week of the fest.
Thought The Cure were great. Every band brought it. Deftones were incredible. Pixies were really solid too. I dug Chelsea Wolfe but not as much as you did - agree that tent was way too small. Joy Formidable were decent.
Snagged a pretty cheap ticket for this yesterday. Lots of complaints about entry, although apparently I got off easy only waiting 30-40 minutes.
The Cure were in fine form, largely the same set they've been performing at other festivals but that was to be expected. "Burn" is way fiercer than it was when I saw them in 2016. I think my second favorite set might have been Chelsea Wolfe. She's so badass. That tent was way too small, though. Even Coachella's Gobi Tent is easily twice as big as that thing.
Food was great; way more options than they were indicating on the website.
Just curious - how did you get a cheap ticket to this one? I was monitoring pretty closely but StubHub and ticket sites never dropped past ~$125 (and since SH fees are egregious, it's essentially even with a $150 from GV). So I just bought face the week of the fest.
Thought The Cure were great. Every band brought it. Deftones were incredible. Pixies were really solid too. I dug Chelsea Wolfe but not as much as you did - agree that tent was way too small. Joy Formidable were decent.
I got a $100 Stubhub one after checking back repeatedly. Told myself I'd pull the trigger if I saw any $120 or lower, and patience paid off. Most times I checked, they were $125+
Agreed Pixies were solid. They've never been a truly stellar live act for me, but always a good time nonetheless.
This was a fun day, but the beer lines were pretty atrocious from around the end of the Deftones until after the Cure started.
Agreed - the issue, as Pirate mentioned, was that the second tent was way too small and frankly The Joy Formidable and Throwing Muses weren't large enough acts to justify people overfilling the back of the small tent to listen to a band they could barely see.
So since nearly everyone there was getting there before Deftones at 4:45 PM, lines to get in were atrocious between 3:30-4:30 PM, and beer/food lines were insanely awful between 5:45-6:30 and 7:45-8:45 when there was essentially 40k people there with dead air on the main stage. Only thing really to do was drink. We gave up waiting in lines a couple times just to sit down lol. Fun day, but agreed - second stage should have been a lot bigger and it should have ran Pixies on Main roughly 6:30-7:30, Deftones on second stage 7:30-8:30, then Cure main stage 8:40 (like they did) to close. Would have spaced entrance timing a bit more between 3-6 PM and made it so that beer/food lines were never terrible. Wonder if that was the initial plan and since it never "sold out" they had to downgrade the second stage and re-do the schedule a bit.
This was a fun day, but the beer lines were pretty atrocious from around the end of the Deftones until after the Cure started.
Agreed - the issue, as Pirate mentioned, was that the second tent was way too small and frankly The Joy Formidable and Throwing Muses weren't large enough acts to justify people overfilling the back of the small tent to listen to a band they could barely see.
So since nearly everyone there was getting there before Deftones at 4:45 PM, lines to get in were atrocious between 3:30-4:30 PM, and beer/food lines were insanely awful between 5:45-6:30 and 7:45-8:45 when there was essentially 40k people there with dead air on the main stage. Only thing really to do was drink. We gave up waiting in lines a couple times just to sit down lol. Fun day, but agreed - second stage should have been a lot bigger and it should have ran Pixies on Main roughly 6:30-7:30, Deftones on second stage 7:30-8:30, then Cure main stage 8:40 (like they did) to close. Would have spaced entrance timing a bit more between 3-6 PM and made it so that beer/food lines were never terrible. Wonder if that was the initial plan and since it never "sold out" they had to downgrade the second stage and re-do the schedule a bit.
Was told that they were expecting a slower trickle of people due to the weather and of course it was an underestimation on their part that an audience of mostly 30+ year olds were just gonna come early due to actually wanting to see music. I think a weird thing was that other than the churro/pretezel/frozen lemonade carts, there werent any water ones. So i had to deal with waiting in the shortest line i could find food vendor wise just to get a cold water. Yeah the refill stations pretty much made it moot to have to buy water, it was just frustrating you couldnt buy one quicker. And considering the weather, it seemed like a requirement.
I looked back at the maps and set up of the 2 arroyo secos and the first year seem to have the best template for what was happening at daydream yesterday. The main entrance was on the southeast side of the rose bowl, so pretty much when you got off the shuttle bus you would be able to go around the gates and walk into a security line. There should have been a secondary entrance on the west side of the grounds, maybe by where merch was to catch everyone from lot 5 and 6 to walk in that way and not create the cluster that there was. Also, ada had a totally separate entrance which was adjacent to the ada lot. Im sure you mix in vip in there somewhere, but 3 points of entry make it more manageable by far. I never heard any complaints about arroyo that it was a pain in the ass to get in either. And that first year had even worse weather than yesterday.
They couldve made the tent a bit bigger, but they more or less got the size of the crowds right as to how full it would get. Chelsea wolfe was the most packed, and the rest were fine. After deftones i think everyone just settled in at main stage. Spacing things out, having clear cut walkways and the chair vs no chair areas did help a lot. You couldnt crowd against the walls that separated vip and ga which actually gave you the ability to get real close to the main stage acts if you just went up the side and ducked into the crowd. Although surprising too was the lack of trash/recycle bins other than around the food vendors and alcohol. Kinda had to take a hike to throw away a plate of food. The grass seemed pretty trash free til the night time cause you really werent gonna leave from pixies onward.
Agreed - the issue, as Pirate mentioned, was that the second tent was way too small and frankly The Joy Formidable and Throwing Muses weren't large enough acts to justify people overfilling the back of the small tent to listen to a band they could barely see.
So since nearly everyone there was getting there before Deftones at 4:45 PM, lines to get in were atrocious between 3:30-4:30 PM, and beer/food lines were insanely awful between 5:45-6:30 and 7:45-8:45 when there was essentially 40k people there with dead air on the main stage. Only thing really to do was drink. We gave up waiting in lines a couple times just to sit down lol. Fun day, but agreed - second stage should have been a lot bigger and it should have ran Pixies on Main roughly 6:30-7:30, Deftones on second stage 7:30-8:30, then Cure main stage 8:40 (like they did) to close. Would have spaced entrance timing a bit more between 3-6 PM and made it so that beer/food lines were never terrible. Wonder if that was the initial plan and since it never "sold out" they had to downgrade the second stage and re-do the schedule a bit.
Was told that they were expecting a slower trickle of people due to the weather and of course it was an underestimation on their part that an audience of mostly 30+ year olds were just gonna come early due to actually wanting to see music. I think a weird thing was that other than the churro/pretezel/frozen lemonade carts, there werent any water ones. So i had to deal with waiting in the shortest line i could find food vendor wise just to get a cold water. Yeah the refill stations pretty much made it moot to have to buy water, it was just frustrating you couldnt buy one quicker. And considering the weather, it seemed like a requirement.
I looked back at the maps and set up of the 2 arroyo secos and the first year seem to have the best template for what was happening at daydream yesterday. The main entrance was on the southeast side of the rose bowl, so pretty much when you got off the shuttle bus you would be able to go around the gates and walk into a security line. There should have been a secondary entrance on the west side of the grounds, maybe by where merch was to catch everyone from lot 5 and 6 to walk in that way and not create the cluster that there was. Also, ada had a totally separate entrance which was adjacent to the ada lot. Im sure you mix in vip in there somewhere, but 3 points of entry make it more manageable by far. I never heard any complaints about arroyo that it was a pain in the ass to get in either. And that first year had even worse weather than yesterday.
They couldve made the tent a bit bigger, but they more or less got the size of the crowds right as to how full it would get. Chelsea wolfe was the most packed, and the rest were fine. After deftones i think everyone just settled in at main stage. Spacing things out, having clear cut walkways and the chair vs no chair areas did help a lot. You couldnt crowd against the walls that separated vip and ga which actually gave you the ability to get real close to the main stage acts if you just went up the side and ducked into the crowd. Although surprising too was the lack of trash/recycle bins other than around the food vendors and alcohol. Kinda had to take a hike to throw away a plate of food. The grass seemed pretty trash free til the night time cause you really werent gonna leave from pixies onward.
Arroyo Seco was pretty flawless both years. I preferred the setup the 1st year, but I had VIP then, and there seemed to be a pretty strong bottleneck at the main, so the new setup year 2 was welcomed. never an issue getting in, especially compared to other non camping GV fests like FYF & Flog Gnaw.
Post by problem dog on Sept 2, 2019 17:35:10 GMT -5
I think the logistical problems are being a bit overstated/foregrounded here. The line to get in was rough and I missed nearly all of Kaelan Mikla, but I was shocked at how many people were there before 2pm. Personally can't blame them for whiffing on that one. Beer and food lines were awful right after Deftones ended, but if you were willing to wait it out a bit and avoid the craft beer line, there were options.
The Cure may have played the same festival setlist they've been doing in Europe, but it's a pretty fantastic set. Very glad they brought it over here. Emma Ruth Rundle was the best tent set of the day, and I'm a full on Deftones fan now.
Attendance seemed appropriate for the size of the venue. I know they moved way more overall tickets at the Hollywood Bowl, but I don't think these grounds would have supported significantly more people. Hoping it was successful enough to get the wheels moving for an east coast version.
