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Post by abefroman1 on Sept 13, 2019 16:58:31 GMT -5
Who is this Heng? Is she another one of those sacrifical attention whore 'pubs that run dead end campaigns in deep blue districts just so the GOP can claim to be running more women and minorities?
So I watched that debate last night.. Warren won, easily before a very determined and convincing O'Rourke. For the rest everything was fairly close to each other, I think except Biden cause he again made a joke of himself every time he starts rambling (that hit of Castro was hilarious btw). Oh yeah and Harris tried so hard to take down Trump in this and be like 'haha, look at me! I'm also a funny candidate' which I think worked in some cases but it just got worse and worse. Yang and Klobuchar didn't say enough to convince me on the several chosen subjects (even Sanders was very specific with the subjects he choose to tackle on) and Booker was and still is that guy with the last word it seems. He should mingle himself more rather than to overlook everything like both Yang and Klobuchar did.
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Biden's at the bottom of my list like pretty much everyone else here as far as who I want to be president, but I think he did better at the debate than people here are giving him credit for. He didn't come across nearly as weak and old as he did in the previous debates. His answers weren't particularly good, but in the first debate it seemed like he just kept getting skewered repeatedly whereas here he kept fighting back.
Yeah, but the content and his wordings were so unfocused in comparison to litteraly every other candidate that it was just hard to follow what he was actually hinting at or saying in general. There was a moment where Bernie was pointing out the hypocrisy in Biden's voting history in comparison to his when it came to war/international politics (Iraque/Afghanistan) and instead of getting him back, he just stood that there and agreed with him.
I hate that this is a main complaint from people. That Bernie seems angry/grumpy of whatever. I would be angry, too, if I've been pushing ideas to help the people for decades and it only took a few decades to get some people to listen. If you tell someone something over and over and over again and they don't listen then the next time you tell them you'll probably be shouting it to get your fucking point across.
The dude has records going back to the 80s where he fought for what he's still fighting for and only now since his movement sparked a fire that people only started to noticed his messages. Ofcourse his dedication to realise that dream for so many is gonna be more agressive. Don't forget that Trump basically became president because he talked ill about litteraly everyone standing in his way. First it was his collgues like Ted Cruz and the media and a bit later it constantly was 'crooked' Hillary. You're not going to get a revolution started when you're talking like Joe fucking Biden.
Biden's at the bottom of my list like pretty much everyone else here as far as who I want to be president, but I think he did better at the debate than people here are giving him credit for. He didn't come across nearly as weak and old as he did in the previous debates. His answers weren't particularly good, but in the first debate it seemed like he just kept getting skewered repeatedly whereas here he kept fighting back.
I would agree in so far that nobody in the debate really did anything to harm him all that much. While I wasn't bothered by Castro's attempt to take him down he didn't pick the right moment and it's didn't land the way it needed to. I guess overall he did better. Stood his ground and didn't get walked all over but all the obvious issues where still readily apparent.
I think the debate still hurts him. His weird racist word salad moment is starting to overtake the narrative that he won the night or improved. I've noticed a lot more pundits discussing this to a greater level than his usual blunders. Lots of articles popping up and media segments. Doesn't seem like a bomb moment but it will likely continue to knock his polling down.