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Honestly I’m really happy with Joe’s performance. He just needed to not completely shit the bed and I think he accomplished that. Debating (or speaking for that matter) is very clearly not his strength and if his campaign would have had their way there would have been no debates at all. Given his solid performance and Trump’s complete disregard for the structure of the debate I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the only debate. From Biden’ perspective, he just needed to show the contrast between him and Trump and prove he is not suffering from full blown dementia. They are in a position now where they can decline to debate again from a point of strength since he has proven he can go toe to toe with Trump. Pretty sad that this is the bar for the alternative, but this election was always going to be a referendum against Trump - the alternative just had to be someone everyone can be grudgingly okay with (History of politics in one sentence there)
But I will also say, from Trumps closing remarks he is 100% going to to contest the election and the very fabric of our democracy is going to be at stake this fall.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Sept 29, 2020 22:04:08 GMT -5
There should be absolutely no doubt that Trump/GOP will contest the results. I fully expect Trump to declare victory on Election night and then disagree with whatever happens.
There should be absolutely no doubt that Trump/GOP will contest the results. I fully expect Trump to declare victory on Election night and then disagree with whatever happens.
His standard of measurement for deciding if the election is fraudulent is going to be whatever the fuck he feels like. So yeah, not sure if he will actually try to stay if he can't get the courts on his side(not impossible) but he's going to further split the country.
Note: I quoted the part where you said Biden proved he could go toe to toe with Trump. Not sure why the coding keeps fucking it up?
Yeah, no. I don't even mean this as a critique of Biden because I don't think it's all that possible to "debate" a screaming lunatic. That was in no way proof that he could stand toe to toe with Trump. That was Biden surviving an onslaught of conspiracies and lies and abuse. Toe to toe implies strength and determination. I saw nothing that made me believe this guy has the leadership qualities to fight back against Trump's worst impulses.
Now could he with the party behind him? Maybe, yeah. He has the experience to make hard decisions in real world events. I have more confidence in that regard. And that's the nicest thing I've said about Joe in quite some time. You're welcome.
I mostly bring this up because it could be very important if Trump pulls some major bullshit in November.
Note: I quoted the part where you said Biden proved he could go toe to toe with Trump. Not sure why the coding keeps fucking it up?
Yeah, no. I don't even mean this as a critique of Biden because I don't think it's all that possible to "debate" a screaming lunatic. That was in no way proof that he could stand toe to toe with Trump. That was Biden surviving an onslaught of conspiracies and lies and abuse. Toe to toe implies strength and determination. I saw nothing that made me believe this guy has the leadership qualities to fight back against Trump's worst impulses.
Now could he with the party behind him? Maybe, yeah. He has the experience to make hard decisions in real world events. I have more confidence in that regard. And that's the nicest thing I've said about Joe in quite some time. You're welcome.
I mostly bring this up because it could be very important if Trump bulls some major bullshit in November.
Toe to toe probably wasn’t the right phrase - standing just tall & (barely) competently enough against the onslaught of shit to offer a stark contrast against the human garbage he’s up against was what he had to do, and I think that was accomplished. Granted, I think most of me expected Biden to fold like a house of cards tonight so anything better then that has left me “happy”
I thought it was funnier when you changed your usename to Ken Bone for like 10 months. I was hoping you would have honored the Cash Me Ousside Girl by now.