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In this post I'm going to make assumptions and pretend they're iron-clad. Everything in this game comes with caveats and but-what-ifs, but I'm not gonna point them out for every person.
Me - Town. Theo and Maddog - Town. I don't think Silver would have named all three Mafia like that. However, I do think he was super defensive when first outed, and has gotten much quieter (relative to him) as the game has gone on. Could just be that his wheels started spinning after being fake-outed. King T - Town. I think the simplest explanation is that Mafia thought he was Inspector and tried to whack him N1. I just don't know that there's enough advantage to try to pull a crazy stunt in a Rooloo/Silver/King T Mafia. He was also offering up the possibility that Rooloo was Mafia and Theo/Jortles were both town early in D2. Why bring this up if you're Mafia?
-- The next three are more unknown to me.
Danbob - Earlier in the game he was more into making jokes and whatnot than he is now. That could be because his situation's gotten more dire - esp with very nearly being lynched in D2. But his tone and thinking to me right now suggest town. He was advocating for Silver to join the runoff before King T's telegraphed post, and then switched from Silver to Rooloo later in the round. The switch doesn't mean much - honestly after King T's post I would expect Mafia to distance, but the early gunning for Silver, eh idk. If it was distancing it was good enough to make me want to not vote for him here, so kudos to you if that's the case. Also noticing that Danbob believe Jortles right off the bat when he saw it...actually that concerns me.
Potent - one of the hardest players for me to read in most games. However, I did find this:
Sorry. It's the same feeling as when you shat on everyone and highlighted me when you were ref two games ago. Making fun of me for leading the charge on lynching Rummy. You were ref and had more info. I have more info than you right now since I'm aware of the lie, so its hard not to be cocky at this point.
My bad for that two games ago. I actually said in the dead thread I was going to try to not make fun of anone because of how crazy the game was. My remark after that game was uncalled for.
Look, I've tried to be clear that I am questioning the veracity behind the post - I think he named you and Theo as a setup. I know you don't want to talk to me, but answer me one question - if King T were in on it, as you mentioned in one of your posts, why would he say he's not inspector? Why wouldn't he fake inspector? I know my answer, but in looking at his response to that question/comment a few hours ago, it felt genuine to me.
Again, why do this is Mafia? This was before Jortles revealed as Inspector. A Mafia-Potent could have been picking up on Inspector vibes and ingratiating himself early. Idk.
Rummy - ????? Don't have much of a read, which is what's troubling me.
In this post I'm going to make assumptions and pretend they're iron-clad. Everything in this game comes with caveats and but-what-ifs, but I'm not gonna point them out for every person.
Me - Town. Theo and Maddog - Town. I don't think Silver would have named all three Mafia like that. However, I do think he was super defensive when first outed, and has gotten much quieter (relative to him) as the game has gone on. Could just be that his wheels started spinning after being fake-outed. King T - Town. I think the simplest explanation is that Mafia thought he was Inspector and tried to whack him N1. I just don't know that there's enough advantage to try to pull a crazy stunt in a Rooloo/Silver/King T Mafia. He was also offering up the possibility that Rooloo was Mafia and Theo/Jortles were both town early in D2. Why bring this up if you're Mafia?
-- The next three are more unknown to me.
Danbob - Earlier in the game he was more into making jokes and whatnot than he is now. That could be because his situation's gotten more dire - esp with very nearly being lynched in D2. But his tone and thinking to me right now suggest town. He was advocating for Silver to join the runoff before King T's telegraphed post, and then switched from Silver to Rooloo later in the round. The switch doesn't mean much - honestly after King T's post I would expect Mafia to distance, but the early gunning for Silver, eh idk. If it was distancing it was good enough to make me want to not vote for him here, so kudos to you if that's the case. Also noticing that Danbob believe Jortles right off the bat when he saw it...actually that concerns me.
Potent - one of the hardest players for me to read in most games. However, I did find this:
My bad for that two games ago. I actually said in the dead thread I was going to try to not make fun of anone because of how crazy the game was. My remark after that game was uncalled for.
Look, I've tried to be clear that I am questioning the veracity behind the post - I think he named you and Theo as a setup. I know you don't want to talk to me, but answer me one question - if King T were in on it, as you mentioned in one of your posts, why would he say he's not inspector? Why wouldn't he fake inspector? I know my answer, but in looking at his response to that question/comment a few hours ago, it felt genuine to me.
Again, why do this is Mafia? This was before Jortles revealed as Inspector. A Mafia-Potent could have been picking up on Inspector vibes and ingratiating himself early. Idk.
Rummy - ????? Don't have much of a read, which is what's troubling me.
What is your opinion of the tally at the time of the fake groupme? I still find it interesting how we haven’t looked at any jortles voters - potent and mad dog.
Theo and Maddog - Town. I don't think Silver would have named all three Mafia like that. However, I do think he was super defensive when first outed, and has gotten much quieter (relative to him) as the game has gone on. Could just be that his wheels started spinning after being fake-outed.
Theo and Maddog - Town. I don't think Silver would have named all three Mafia like that. However, I do think he was super defensive when first outed, and has gotten much quieter (relative to him) as the game has gone on. Could just be that his wheels started spinning after being fake-outed.
This is referring to Kanye, right?
No, I was referring to you. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
No, I was referring to you. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
Cool, just making sure. I haven't done too much other than try to clear my own name, and because of this I haven't given myself a chance to go after anyone else
I mean, I think you should be up for consideration here still too, dude.
A lot of solid points have been made re: Theo doing/saying things that don’t make sense as mafia. Tbh, we are left with a group of towns ppl who have all done/said some stuff that seems very un mafia like and other things that are varying degrees of suspicious.
There have been multiple suggestions, including from Jortles before he was whacked, to vote over the quiet players first. But if we were gonna do one of the quiet folks, I think Carini was a bad call. And I sort of want to look back at those who ended up on Carini before he pretty abruptly was lynched. I’ll admit, that deadline nearly passed me by too, but I wasn’t on him at the time. For those who were , did all y’all really not recognize the approaching deadline or were you fine to see Carini be the one to go?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I mean, I think you should be up for consideration here still too, dude.
A lot of solid points have been made re: Theo doing/saying things that don’t make sense as mafia. Tbh, we are left with a group of towns ppl who have all done/said some stuff that seems very un mafia like and other things that are varying degrees of suspicious.
There have been multiple suggestions, including from Jortles before he was whacked, to vote over the quiet players first. But if we were gonna do one of the quiet folks, I think Carini was a bad call. And I sort of want to look back at those who ended up on Carini before he pretty abruptly was lynched. I’ll admit, that deadline nearly passed me by too, but I wasn’t on him at the time. For those who were , did all y’all really not recognize the approaching deadline or were you fine to see Carini be the one to go?
I think the Carini choice was fine and I don’t regret my vote for him. I will agree mad dog might have been a better choice (and I think he’s the best choice here).
I mean, I think you should be up for consideration here still too, dude.
A lot of solid points have been made re: Theo doing/saying things that don’t make sense as mafia. Tbh, we are left with a group of towns ppl who have all done/said some stuff that seems very un mafia like and other things that are varying degrees of suspicious.
There have been multiple suggestions, including from Jortles before he was whacked, to vote over the quiet players first. But if we were gonna do one of the quiet folks, I think Carini was a bad call. And I sort of want to look back at those who ended up on Carini before he pretty abruptly was lynched. I’ll admit, that deadline nearly passed me by too, but I wasn’t on him at the time. For those who were , did all y’all really not recognize the approaching deadline or were you fine to see Carini be the one to go?
I didn't have too many chances to check the thread yesterday due to having like 4 classes yesterday, and I was the first to move to Carini. I think when I checked back in again, he was dead and I didn't have a chance to ask him all that much. I think Jaz and Dan were with me on him.
What is your opinion of the tally at the time of the fake groupme? I still find it interesting how we haven’t looked at any jortles voters - potent and mad dog.
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
*this post is taking a long time, sorry if i miss anything that happens. tryig to watch subtitled movie and drink.
count right before the "leak" now knowing Jortles/jaz/carini town;
if it's dan/rooloo/silver, prior to Jaz coming off of Dan, shit does not look good. maybe once jaz is off of dan they felt more confident in pulling the move. dan does advance kanye which is less of a move, but if roo was already priming to come out idk if it matters.
Theo/R/S, he straight up doesn't vote when presented the options lol, and then when the next round starts votes jortles again. theo does vote rooloo before 'leak', so similar risk/reward to dans situation.
Tranter/R/S, feels the most convaluted of leaning hard into fake inspector/be saved and if it failed, yeesh. it does have a feel of kanye coaching people who have never been mafia before.
Potent/R/S, reciprocates with rooloo, moves to jortles stays there through some movement. similar to my situation but with another level of distancing.
Rummy/R/S, not as strong a feeling as the others. similar to theo, votes for jortles, she moves because of stack(?) reasons if iirc, and then is on rooloo during leak.
looking at it, i feel that the only thing i can say about where i was pre leak is that i voted for jortles because at the time he was going to have a repick, and im generally not a fan of peope revoting while theyre in the runoff, so i didn't want him to fall out. and i believe someone had tagged myself rummy and jortles asking if we wanted to wait for round to close or just to revote, so it was more a response to that, but jortles/rummy didn't move, and theo just nulled so the round ended.
This post by Maddog last night is kind of a mess - which I think he tried to explain before going into the detail. If you click the post to JTR's actual count, it's different than what Maddog posted here. Did you quote the JTR post and then fix it? That would be helpful to know. Because the other thing is, the count is a mess. Basically 2 people and their votes are missing in his tally. This has caused me all sorts of confusion this morning, so I'm going to pull another count.
I added Jaz and Dan's move to the most recent count that was posted prior to the leak. Theo did not have a vote. I didn't change much.
What is your opinion of the tally at the time of the fake groupme? I still find it interesting how we haven’t looked at any jortles voters - potent and mad dog.
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
So my thinking for mad dog is that it makes sense that mafia could possibly have 2 members on jortles. When mad dog voted for jortles he said something along the lines of “don’t have reads but know jortles won’t vote for himself” - to me it read as him just looking for a reason to place his vote on someone other than his teammates. I know you don’t think Kanye would name all three mafia in a post, but I think this is an assumption that we should challenge.
What is your opinion of the tally at the time of the fake groupme? I still find it interesting how we haven’t looked at any jortles voters - potent and mad dog.
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
Again...Theo nulled before the leak. He was still left to vote when the round closed
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
So my thinking for mad dog is that it makes sense that mafia could possibly have 2 members on jortles. When mad dog voted for jortles he said something along the lines of “don’t have reads but know jortles won’t vote for himself” - to me it read as him just looking for a reason to place his vote on someone other than his teammates. I know you don’t think Kanye would name all three mafia in a post, but I think this is an assumption that we should challenge.
This makes a lot of sense to me. It's also super troubling to me that Maddog is really pushing on me because of a rules misunderstanding (yes it's my third game but still) and it feels like it's just a play to have some control over the narrative when there's 6 town left.
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
Again...Theo nulled before the leak. He was still left to vote when the round closed
No? Top of page six, a couple posts down. Theo moves to Rooloo. The groupme leak happens midway through page 7. I don't see a null vote from Theo in that span.
To be completely honest, it's hard to try and derive something from this. If you or Rummy are Mafia, I can see you wanting to split up the votes as much as possible. If it's Potent or Maddog, I can see them wanting to vote for/stay on Jortles to try and keep their teammates from getting voted out. If it's King T or Theo, they already knew the fake groupme was coming so it would be smart to distance.
So my thinking for mad dog is that it makes sense that mafia could possibly have 2 members on jortles. When mad dog voted for jortles he said something along the lines of “don’t have reads but know jortles won’t vote for himself” - to me it read as him just looking for a reason to place his vote on someone other than his teammates. I know you don’t think Kanye would name all three mafia in a post, but I think this is an assumption that we should challenge.
Yeah this whole “Kanye wouldn’t...” argument is tiresome to me because...yeah he might?? And if that’s the only reason folks are holding off on voting for MD, I just don’t think it is a solid enough one.
I also don’t love how much he’s pushing this Theo thing. Meh.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.