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Saw Green Day actually put out a new album this year - had no idea. The last album of theirs I listened to came out 20 years ago, but Dookie was the first CD I ever bought. I was 9 years old and saved up my allowance. Here's 39 tracks, about 2 hours. Heavy on stuff I am most familiar with (debut up til about Warning). I included the big stuff off American Idiot, and then I listened to the rest and just put tracks on as I thought they were good. So, sorry Green Day Superfans for anything I made have left off. I thought a lot of their stuff post American Idiot was kinda really hit or miss (and the uno, dos, tre albums were sooo much filler). Their most recent album was a fun 25 minutes and I don't even remember the name of the one before it anymore.
Honest question - how cool is Green Day with the kids these days? American Idiot (single) came out about a year after Mr. Brightside, for perspective.
American Idiot was a massive resurgence for them in popularity among high schoolers when it came out but I doubt too many people younger than their late twenties care about them much anymore.
Holiday is one of the few modern songs that broke into the rotation of marching band stand tunes. It's like that and then everything else is like Louie Louie or Lean on Me lol
Billy Joel Armstrong did a quarantine song for multiple TV show/streams and didn't do wake me up when September Ends fucking once. Covid denier for sure.
Saw Green Day actually put out a new album this year - had no idea. The last album of theirs I listened to came out 20 years ago, but Dookie was the first CD I ever bought. I was 9 years old and saved up my allowance. Here's 39 tracks, about 2 hours. Heavy on stuff I am most familiar with (debut up til about Warning). I included the big stuff off American Idiot, and then I listened to the rest and just put tracks on as I thought they were good. So, sorry Green Day Superfans for anything I made have left off. I thought a lot of their stuff post American Idiot was kinda really hit or miss (and the uno, dos, tre albums were sooo much filler). Their most recent album was a fun 25 minutes and I don't even remember the name of the one before it anymore.
Honest question - how cool is Green Day with the kids these days? American Idiot (single) came out about a year after Mr. Brightside, for perspective.
Green Day definitely have their dedicated fan base among zoomers, but most fans came together to agree the latest album was bad
Post by Vinnie the Eel on Jul 24, 2020 8:19:50 GMT -5
Went chronological with this, tried to include at least 1 cut from each record. Tried to include not only hits, and even threw in the new track with Jimmy Page released today.
Currently munching through Miles Davis, I'll probably make a lengthy playlist cause the dude has like 50 albums or something.
26 albums done, about 31 to go. Playlist is about 5 hours long already structured chronologically.
12 albums to go and nearly through his 'electric period'... I know most of these are like 25-ish tracks long, some 50 but there's no way I can trim a lot with 50 albums under his belt so I'm trying my best to keep it as well composed and short as possible. I'll post my top 10 favorite albums of the man aswell, that'll be easy for people to get into aswell I think (depending on what kind of period of Davis you might most like). Hoping tomorrow might be the last day of this journey.
26 albums done, about 31 to go. Playlist is about 5 hours long already structured chronologically.
12 albums to go and nearly through his 'electric period'... I know most of these are like 25-ish tracks long, some 50 but there's no way I can trim a lot with 50 albums under his belt so I'm trying my best to keep it as well composed and short as possible. I'll post my top 10 favorite albums of the man aswell, that'll be easy for people to get into aswell I think (depending on what kind of period of Davis you might most like). Hoping tomorrow might be the last day of this journey.
This is insane and I would definitely read a a very lengthy post about your expectations going in, reactions as you were going through, and final thoughts / summary / rankings.
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How does one narrow down 25 years of listening into a 90-minute playlist?
(Edit: I clearly don’t know how to embed a playlist into a comment.)
Nothing off Mermaid Ave. Vol 3 ? I dunno if I'd have picked Radio Cure from YHF over I'm Trying to Break Your Heart or I'm the Man Who Loves You or Heavy Metal Drummer for a primer. Otherwise I think it's pretty good, especially for only 90 minutes.
Well, 54 albums and four days later. It's finished.
For those who will probably get lost in my rambeling; Bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) Hard bop (1949-1955) Modal jazz (1955-1959) Post bop (1959-1967) Electric (1968-1976) Post hiatus/later years (1980-1992)
To me Davis has 6 era's - as the kids like em these days - sometimes they overlapped with each other tho idk. First bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) where he wasn't a band leader yet, he just played in bands of Gillespie, Parker etc. After a while he wanted to be in that spotlight aswell, he formed himself a band - a quintet and signed a record deal with Prestige. Second era is called his hard bop period spanning from 1949-ish till 1955. Hard bop is known for it's eclectic play and fast paced tempo. Thirth period (1955-1959) is his modal jazz period, which is in contrast to hard bop is the complete opposite and a bit closer to bebop/cool jazz which is breezy. Modal jazz is sweet, mellow and laidback type jazz. He signed with Columbia and formed his owned quintet (with Coltrane in it!). The weird thing with Davis was that he was always working and releasing a lot of different shit (which is why these era's overlap aswell). he'd release Kind Of Blue in '59 and The Birth Of Cool (a compilation but still) in '57 for example and then he'd go on to release other stuff like that time he tried to make some sort of latin jazz-type record. The quintet eventually split and he'd go onto work with Gil Evans. 1959-1968 is his post bop-period. In this period he'd work with Gil Evans aswell as in '63 he'd get back with the boys until '68. 1968-1969, he'd gradually integrate more and more rock-influences in his music which laid to his electric-period spanning from 1968-1976. To me, this is Davis at his most creative and innovative even tho his cool-period was also ground breaking ofcourse. It's the period of time where the tracks on his albums would either be 15/20 sometimes 30+ mins plus pieces or just 5 mins at max, compare that to his begin period where his tracks were most of the time like 2/3 minutes. It's insane and kinda funny as I went through this. In '76 he'd take a break after his personal problems took the better of him (cocaine, abuse, alcohol and had problems with playing with his mouth). The last period goes from 1980 till his death in 1992. The man came back but he'd become very insecure about his own status even though people looked up to him a lot. Just like in the early sixties he'd try to re-invent the wheel and integrate (synth)funk into his work. Problem was that he def wasn't the first to do that and just following along what others where doing. You'd def feel while listening through his records that he was trying to get hold of what was popular instead of - like in the seventies - don't give a shit about what people thought of him and just make good ass music. His music in this later period isn't very worth mentioning either imo. I think the last pretty okay album of that period was Aura.
Honorable mentions cause they're so out there in his discog.: - Get Up With It (1974); the album where Davis litteraly said 'fuck it!'. The opening track is a 30 minute ambient piece, Mayisha and Calypso Frelimo are just pure madness with him going either going insane on his organ or his trumpet. - Sketches Of Spain (1960); The album which I talked about earlier. Davis made an album where typical Spanish sounding instruments where integrated into his modal jazz type work. - Filles De Kilimanjaro (1969); his transition-album into his electric period, underrated. - Miles Ahead (1959); Miles tries over the top big band, it's quite good actually if you're into it - Big Fun (1974); Miles tries to do the same thing with traditional Indian music as he did with Spanish in Sketches, it's quite good tho - Quiet Nights (1963); Miles tries bossa nova lol - You're Under Arrest (1985); his worst, easily. Some of these songs are just.. creepy aswell.
Top 10 albums; 10. Sketches Of Spain (1960) 9. Miles Smiles (1967) 8. Ascenseur pour l'échafaud (1958) 7. On The Corner (1972) 6. Milestones (1958) 5. Neferteti (1968) 4. A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1971) 3. Kind Of Blue (1959) 2. In A Silent Way (1969) 1. Bitches Brew (1970)
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Well, 54 albums and four days later. It's finished.
For those who will probably get lost in my rambeling; Bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) Hard bop (1949-1955) Modal jazz (1955-1959) Post bop (1959-1967) Electric (1968-1976) Post hiatus/later years (1980-1992)
To me Davis has 6 era's - as the kids like em these days - sometimes they overlapped with each other tho idk. First bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) where he wasn't a band leader yet, he just played in bands of Gillespie, Parker etc. After a while he wanted to be in that spotlight aswell, he formed himself a band - a quintet and signed a record deal with Prestige. Second era is called his hard bop period spanning from 1949-ish till 1955. Hard bop is known for it's eclectic play and fast paced tempo. Thirth period (1955-1959) is his modal jazz period, which is in contrast to hard bop is the complete opposite and a bit closer to bebop/cool jazz which is breezy. Modal jazz is sweet, mellow and laidback type jazz. He signed with Columbia and formed his owned quintet (with Coltrane in it!). The weird thing with Davis was that he was always working and releasing a lot of different shit (which is why these era's overlap aswell). he'd release Kind Of Blue in '59 and The Birth Of Cool (a compilation but still) in '57 for example and then he'd go on to release other stuff like that time he tried to make some sort of latin jazz-type record. The quintet eventually split and he'd go onto work with Gil Evans. 1959-1968 is his post bop-period. In this period he'd work with Gil Evans aswell as in '63 he'd get back with the boys until '68. 1968-1969, he'd gradually integrate more and more rock-influences in his music which laid to his electric-period spanning from 1968-1976. To me, this is Davis at his most creative and innovative even tho his cool-period was also ground breaking ofcourse. It's the period of time where the tracks on his albums would either be 15/20 sometimes 30+ mins plus pieces or just 5 mins at max, compare that to his begin period where his tracks were most of the time like 2/3 minutes. It's insane and kinda funny as I went through this. In '76 he'd take a break after his personal problems took the better of him (cocaine, abuse, alcohol and had problems with playing with his mouth). The last period goes from 1980 till his death in 1992. The man came back but he'd become very insecure about his own status even though people looked up to him a lot. Just like in the early sixties he'd try to re-invent the wheel and integrate (synth)funk into his work. Problem was that he def wasn't the first to do that and just following along what others where doing. You'd def feel while listening through his records that he was trying to get hold of what was popular instead of - like in the seventies - don't give a shit about what people thought of him and just make good ass music. His music in this later period isn't very worth mentioning either imo. I think the last pretty okay album of that period was Aura.
Honorable mentions cause they're so out there in his discog.: - Get Up With It (1974); the album where Davis litteraly said 'fuck it!'. The opening track is a 30 minute ambient piece, Mayisha and Calypso Frelimo are just pure madness with him going either going insane on his organ or his trumpet. - Sketches Of Spain (1960); The album which I talked about earlier. Davis made an album where typical Spanish sounding instruments where integrated into his modal jazz type work. - Filles De Kilimanjaro (1969); his transition-album into his electric period, underrated. - Miles Ahead (1959); Miles tries over the top big band, it's quite good actually if you're into it - Big Fun (1974); Miles tries to do the same thing with traditional Indian music as he did with Spanish in Sketches, it's quite good tho - Quiet Nights (1963); Miles tries bossa nova lol - You're Under Arrest (1985); his worst, easily. Some of these songs are just.. creepy aswell.
Top 10 albums; 10. Sketches Of Spain (1960) 9. Miles Smiles (1967) 8. Ascenseur pour l'échafaud (1958) 7. On The Corner (1972) 6. Milestones (1958) 5. Neferteti (1968) 4. A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1971) 3. Kind Of Blue (1959) 2. In A Silent Way (1969) 1. Bitches Brew (1970)
As a die hard Miles head I cannot imagine listing his top ten albums and including nothing from his incredible 1956 run which was arguably his pre-electric peak IMO.
Also some of his eras overlap because he had nearly zero control over when his recordings would be released. You mention BOTC coming out in 1957 but it’s a 1948-1950 recording if I recall. So to the extent that different sounds sometimes appear to come and go, this has less to do with his creative output (which was pretty linear) and less with the fact that jazz artists had zero control over their own recordings for the most part.
Well, 54 albums and four days later. It's finished.
For those who will probably get lost in my rambeling; Bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) Hard bop (1949-1955) Modal jazz (1955-1959) Post bop (1959-1967) Electric (1968-1976) Post hiatus/later years (1980-1992)
To me Davis has 6 era's - as the kids like em these days - sometimes they overlapped with each other tho idk. First bebop/cool jazz (194x-1950) where he wasn't a band leader yet, he just played in bands of Gillespie, Parker etc. After a while he wanted to be in that spotlight aswell, he formed himself a band - a quintet and signed a record deal with Prestige. Second era is called his hard bop period spanning from 1949-ish till 1955. Hard bop is known for it's eclectic play and fast paced tempo. Thirth period (1955-1959) is his modal jazz period, which is in contrast to hard bop is the complete opposite and a bit closer to bebop/cool jazz which is breezy. Modal jazz is sweet, mellow and laidback type jazz. He signed with Columbia and formed his owned quintet (with Coltrane in it!). The weird thing with Davis was that he was always working and releasing a lot of different shit (which is why these era's overlap aswell). he'd release Kind Of Blue in '59 and The Birth Of Cool (a compilation but still) in '57 for example and then he'd go on to release other stuff like that time he tried to make some sort of latin jazz-type record. The quintet eventually split and he'd go onto work with Gil Evans. 1959-1968 is his post bop-period. In this period he'd work with Gil Evans aswell as in '63 he'd get back with the boys until '68. 1968-1969, he'd gradually integrate more and more rock-influences in his music which laid to his electric-period spanning from 1968-1976. To me, this is Davis at his most creative and innovative even tho his cool-period was also ground breaking ofcourse. It's the period of time where the tracks on his albums would either be 15/20 sometimes 30+ mins plus pieces or just 5 mins at max, compare that to his begin period where his tracks were most of the time like 2/3 minutes. It's insane and kinda funny as I went through this. In '76 he'd take a break after his personal problems took the better of him (cocaine, abuse, alcohol and had problems with playing with his mouth). The last period goes from 1980 till his death in 1992. The man came back but he'd become very insecure about his own status even though people looked up to him a lot. Just like in the early sixties he'd try to re-invent the wheel and integrate (synth)funk into his work. Problem was that he def wasn't the first to do that and just following along what others where doing. You'd def feel while listening through his records that he was trying to get hold of what was popular instead of - like in the seventies - don't give a shit about what people thought of him and just make good ass music. His music in this later period isn't very worth mentioning either imo. I think the last pretty okay album of that period was Aura.
Honorable mentions cause they're so out there in his discog.: - Get Up With It (1974); the album where Davis litteraly said 'fuck it!'. The opening track is a 30 minute ambient piece, Mayisha and Calypso Frelimo are just pure madness with him going either going insane on his organ or his trumpet. - Sketches Of Spain (1960); The album which I talked about earlier. Davis made an album where typical Spanish sounding instruments where integrated into his modal jazz type work. - Filles De Kilimanjaro (1969); his transition-album into his electric period, underrated. - Miles Ahead (1959); Miles tries over the top big band, it's quite good actually if you're into it - Big Fun (1974); Miles tries to do the same thing with traditional Indian music as he did with Spanish in Sketches, it's quite good tho - Quiet Nights (1963); Miles tries bossa nova lol - You're Under Arrest (1985); his worst, easily. Some of these songs are just.. creepy aswell.
Top 10 albums; 10. Sketches Of Spain (1960) 9. Miles Smiles (1967) 8. Ascenseur pour l'échafaud (1958) 7. On The Corner (1972) 6. Milestones (1958) 5. Neferteti (1968) 4. A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1971) 3. Kind Of Blue (1959) 2. In A Silent Way (1969) 1. Bitches Brew (1970)
As a die hard Miles head I cannot imagine listing his top ten albums and including nothing from his incredible 1956 run which was arguably his pre-electric peak IMO.
Also some of his eras overlap because he had nearly zero control over when his recordings would be released. You mention BOTC coming out in 1957 but it’s a 1948-1950 recording if I recall. So to the extent that different sounds sometimes appear to come and go, this has less to do with his creative output (which was pretty linear) and less with the fact that jazz artists had zero control over their own recordings for the most part.
I admittedly am not the biggest fan of his electric era though so intend to underrepresent those in my personal top tens though, play list is very nice IMO
As a die hard Miles head I cannot imagine listing his top ten albums and including nothing from his incredible 1956 run which was arguably his pre-electric peak IMO.
Also some of his eras overlap because he had nearly zero control over when his recordings would be released. You mention BOTC coming out in 1957 but it’s a 1948-1950 recording if I recall. So to the extent that different sounds sometimes appear to come and go, this has less to do with his creative output (which was pretty linear) and less with the fact that jazz artists had zero control over their own recordings for the most part.
Truth, to me the Relaxin', Workin' etc albums are all straight 8's to me. The only 8, I've included in this list is Sketches but I was thinking of picking atleast just one of that era but at the end decided not to.
I didn't know that but it all makes sense now. (I did know that about BOTC btw, just didn't know the exact cause) It's weird how after changing multiple labels, they all ended up asking or wanting the same bullshit. I remember listening to one record and reading a review about it that said Davis just released it just to get rid of his contract cause he agreed to release 12 or something. Some labels would put out some old archivals or b-side stuff aswell which I found to be very uh disrespectful but yeah.. Thanks for the insights tho.
As a die hard Miles head I cannot imagine listing his top ten albums and including nothing from his incredible 1956 run which was arguably his pre-electric peak IMO.
Also some of his eras overlap because he had nearly zero control over when his recordings would be released. You mention BOTC coming out in 1957 but it’s a 1948-1950 recording if I recall. So to the extent that different sounds sometimes appear to come and go, this has less to do with his creative output (which was pretty linear) and less with the fact that jazz artists had zero control over their own recordings for the most part.
Truth, to me the Relaxin', Workin' etc albums are all straight 8's to me. The only 8, I've included in this list is Sketches but I was thinking of picking atleast just one of that era but at the end decided not to.
I didn't know that but it all makes sense now. (I did know that about BOTC btw, just didn't know the exact cause) It's weird how after changing multiple labels, they all ended up asking or wanting the same bullshit. I remember listening to one record and reading a review about it that said Davis just released it just to get rid of his contract cause he agreed to release 12 or something. Some labels would put out some old archivals or b-side stuff aswell which I found to be very uh disrespectful but yeah.. Thanks for the insights tho.
The way jazz artists (and really, all musicians) used to get fucked over is astounding. Basically they’d get paid to record an album and then have no control over it.
And I can understand that point of view. I just look at the style and precision he was playing with for those 56 albums (and the RVG cuts sound so good) that it’s easily my most revisited era.
Billy Joel Armstrong did a quarantine song for multiple TV show/streams and didn't do wake me up when September Ends fucking once. Covid denier for sure.
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kept it short. the smiths only have 4 proper albums and then 2 compilations of non-album tracks, so it felt silly to do a 2 hour long primer. so while there isn't a ton of material in The Smiths catalog, a lot of it is fantastic, so there are definitely some hits that aren't on the primer.
I know you've all been waiting for it, so here it is: the Muse primer. It's a bit long, but they've got so many sounds that it was hard to chop any more.
The first 16 tracks are in pairs chronologically, consisting of one hit from each album as well as a song that shows a different sound of that album. After that it's all chronological so that you can see their progression or check more of a certain album out. Personally, my favorite album (maybe ever) is Origin of Symmetry. It's always been special to me.
My personal top 20 tracks:
1. Stockholm Syndrome(live) - Absolution 2. Citizen Erased - Origin of Symmetry 3. Showbiz - Showbiz 4. The Handler - Drones 5. Blackout - Absolution 6. Map of the Problematique - Black Holes and Revelations 7. Take a Bow - Black Holes and Revelations 8. Ruled by Secrecy - Absolution 9. Screenager - Origin of Symmetry 10. Exogenesis: Symphony, Pt. 1 (Overture) - The Resistance 11. Space Dementia - Origin of Symmetry 12. Hoodoo - Black Holes and Revelations 13. Dead Inside - Drones 14. Hyper Chondriac Music - Hullabaloo Soundtrack 15. Micro Cuts - Origin of Symmetry 16. The Small Print - Absolution 17. The 2nd Law: Isolated System - The 2nd Law 18. Supermassive Black Hole - Black Holes and Revelations 19. Recess - Hullabaloo Soundtrack 20. The Dark Side - Simulation Theory
Post by Nathan Fieldcяab on Jul 25, 2020 19:56:10 GMT -5
Take a Bow is such a great album opener. Very excited to dig into this one since I don't know their albums before Absolution super well and it sounds like those earliest ones are your favorite
Take a Bow is such a great album opener. Very excited to dig into this one since I don't know their albums before Absolution super well and it sounds like those earliest ones are your favorite
Origin, Absolution, and Black Holes are sort of their "golden trio." Each of those albums are pretty different, with Origin being the "weirdest," but they each sound uniquely Muse. They hadn't really found themselves on Showbiz yet, though it still has a lot of great songs on it. After Black Holes the songwriting takes a very noticeable dip, but they always manage to have a few gems on each album imo.
And yeah, their openers are usually very good and Take a Bow is my favorite. Was so glad to see them play that at Roo.