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I'd be really happy to see him in the lineup, but this isn't similar to the situation with The Strokes at all. Moctar is opening all of the dates on the first leg of the Parquet Courts tour, which ends on March 18. He's not the opener on the second leg of the tour, which starts in Boston on March 31. It's not like he's opening shows right before and right after Boston, mysteriously omitting that one date.
There's nothing on Moctar's tour calendar to suggest that he'll be doing North American dates in late May, but nothing to suggest that he definitely won't be doing them, either. There are European festivals slated for early May and early August, with nothing in between them. There is a late August west coast festival, which may suggest that he's focusing upon European festivals early in the season and then doing North American festivals later on, which doesn't bode well for a Boston Calling booking.
you typed all that out to say nothing
Not at all. What I am saying is that the specifics of Moctar's schedule don't suggest at all that he's playing Boston Calling.
On the DMB message boards we were speculating that maybe DMB has a shot to be the third headliner. My recollection is that they've never played this festival (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). Not sure it means anything but Boston Calling follows DMB on instagram.
DMB is a lot like Phish in the sense that they have a huge audience who'd love to see them headline Boston Calling, but not a lot of casual fans. You're either really into DMB or you give them little thought.
Bands like DMB and Phish are great for festivals as large as Bonnaroo where the headliner doesn't run unopposed and people have multiple stages to choose from, but acts like The Killers, Foo Fighters, and Eminem are much better for Boston Calling, because they fall into the "kinda sorta like them" category for a lot of people (and they have huge devoted fan bases) and casual music fans can probably name half-a-dozen songs of each performer with no problem and know those songs well. Between DMB and Phish, most casual music fans could probably name "Crash Into Me" and then hit the proverbial brick wall.
not even gonna lie, i have little to no excitement for this lineup. hoping they pull through with something decent
For those who lack the time, money, or transportation to get to other festivals, you make do with what your local festival offers and hope that you run across a few artists with whom you may not have already been very familiar, but then get into them in a big way because you see them at a festival. Seeing Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit at Boston Calling in 2015 is what made me an Isbell fan. Barring pandemic-related curveballs, I'm going to see Tame Impala at the Garden in a few months because I was impressed by their set in 2019.
As much fun as it would be to look at a festival lineup and see all of your top dozen favorites on it, seeing performers who wind up becoming favorites because you were blown away by their festival set is a big part of what makes the festival experience special.
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Not that their tweet really means that much, because the word "soon" lacks any sort of precise meaning, but Boston Calling just tweeted this:
Typically Coachella's lineup drops the first week of January. A lot of other festivals follow soon thereafter.
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
Typically Coachella's lineup drops the first week of January. A lot of other festivals follow soon thereafter.
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
I'm guessing for those which already put out lineups, there's little to no overlap with Coach's
Typically Coachella's lineup drops the first week of January. A lot of other festivals follow soon thereafter.
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
literally all of the bigger ones do, and will
Coachella will drop tomorrow or Tuesday, and then you'll see Bottle Rock, Bonnaroo, etc. all start to come nearly immediately after.
Typically Coachella's lineup drops the first week of January. A lot of other festivals follow soon thereafter.
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
the radius claus stuff is still in effect for artists on the 2022 Coachella lineup who weren’t on there previously, but they’re more lenient on artists who were booked for 2020. We’re still waiting for Coachella to drop before we get Boston calling.
Typically Coachella's lineup drops the first week of January. A lot of other festivals follow soon thereafter.
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
Still very much seems to be a written rule based off this comment from one of the folks behind the So What Music Fest, so hopefully we see Coachella announce in the next few days and the flood gates can open!
That was the rule of thumb up until 2022, for which lineup drops started coming a few months ago. Why be the only festival to defer to Coachella when no one else is following that unwritten rule anymore? Even some festivals which ran a 2021 edition, like Shaky Knees, have already dropped their 2022 lineup...for a FALL event.
Still very much seems to be a written rule based off this comment from one of the folks behind the So What Music Fest, so hopefully we see Coachella announce in the next few days and the flood gates can open!
Ah, so it applies if the act is signed for Coachella? Does that apply to headliners only, top couple of lines, or the entire poster? I can't imagine that sharing a couple of early afternoon smaller stage acts with Coachella would prohibit a lineup drop.
So, after being amazed at how many people replied to Boston Calling's "Who do you want to see in the lineup?" posts on Twitter and Instagram with RHCP, despite their upcoming Fenway show, I checked out the ticket page for the Fenway event and was even more surprised to see that there were less than 30 tickets left as of last night.
Which raises a question...could/would/should Boston Calling book/announce RHCP if the show is that close to a sellout? (Mostly hypothetical, since the third headliner has likely been locked in for months). I'm still rather surprised that they went with The Killers in 2018, simply because not everyone who really likes an artist likes them so much that they'll dig deep into their pockets and see them multiple times in one year, especially if they're an arena/stadium headliner charging premium prices (unless they're the sort of act, jam band or otherwise, with a reputation for mixing up the setlist greatly from night to night).
I'd imagine that the percentage of people holding tickets to see them at Fenway who'd buy Boston Calling passes just to see the Chili Peppers again would be rather small. If you're an RHCP fan in the Boston area, you're probably already holding Fenway tickets and if you're an RHCP fan who lives elsewhere and are considering traveling to Boston Calling, there's a good chance that RHCP is playing close to where you live. Booking a Boston Calling headliner who's also doing their own local arena/stadium show seems like a huge financial risk...unless they sold out their arena/stadium show in under 10 minutes and didn't book a large enough venue to meet local demand. From a ticket sales standpoint, there's probably no act they could book who'd sell more one day passes immediately than Billie Eilish, because her one TD Garden show next month doesn't begin to accommodate the number of people in the area who want to see her perform. She'd probably sell out Fenway in short order, and draw a decent-sized crowd to Gillette.
absolute zero chance, they dont have the money for it. one of my friends works in live music in boston and heard that this fest may go under if they dont sell enough tix this year. thats why theyve been pushing the early birds so hard, they need to be able to guarantee all of the acts their money.
Yeah, I'm assuming the "cant announce another festival show until Coachella has put their line up out" is just a part of all the contracts and annoying enough that most fests just plan around it aside from the handful that really have almost no overlap. Obviously the events of the last few years have been anything but typical, so I'm sure there was some leniency.
Also on RHCP, I find it hard/next to impossible that they are the 3rd headliner given the Fenway show, given that they weren't announced as returning with Foo/Rage and given I think the BC budget was stretched in 2020 with the combo of Rage/Foo/RHCP (I think Rage came out of left field once Foo/RCHP was already part of the plan). The Strokes still seems to make sense, Tyler the creator would also be a nice fit but im still not sure if the show in Worcester makes it more or less likely, probably less.
I am curious how much space we still have at the top of the line up, I'm assuming HAIM and RTJ are essentially in the 4-6th range, then how much space is there to Black Pumas/Earthgang. With the seemingly heavier rock headliners what direction do they take with the Blue stage closers. What would be the popular EDM-y artist to pickup this year?
I am curious how much space we still have at the top of the line up, I'm assuming HAIM and RTJ are essentially in the 4-6th range, then how much space is there to Black Pumas/Earthgang. With the seemingly heavier rock headliners what direction do they take with the Blue stage closers. What would be the popular EDM-y artist to pickup this year?
Phoebe Bridgers and Brockhampton are 2 of the other highly billed names I think, unsure where they actually show up on the schedule.
I am curious how much space we still have at the top of the line up, I'm assuming HAIM and RTJ are essentially in the 4-6th range, then how much space is there to Black Pumas/Earthgang. With the seemingly heavier rock headliners what direction do they take with the Blue stage closers. What would be the popular EDM-y artist to pickup this year?
Phoebe Bridgers and Brockhampton are 2 of the other highly billed names I think, unsure where they actually show up on the schedule.
And Phoebe has pretty much blown up since 2020 right?
I wonder if there's a chance Bon Iver comes back, no MA date in their tour although it seemed like a lot of shows were re-bookings from 2020 which also didnt have a MA stop, but they are kicking off that tour Jun 3rd in NY so they would be "in the area" so to speak
Phoebe Bridgers and Brockhampton are 2 of the other highly billed names I think, unsure where they actually show up on the schedule.
And Phoebe has pretty much blown up since 2020 right?
I wonder if there's a chance Bon Iver comes back, no MA date in their tour although it seemed like a lot of shows were re-bookings from 2020 which also didnt have a MA stop, but they are kicking off that tour Jun 3rd in NY so they would be "in the area" so to speak
yeah that’s one I’m deeply hoping for, especially since I’m going to be at primavera during BI’s New England shows later on
absolute zero chance, they dont have the money for it. one of my friends works in live music in boston and heard that this fest may go under if they dont sell enough tix this year. thats why theyve been pushing the early birds so hard, they need to be able to guarantee all of the acts their money.
The festival isn't going to "go under," not when Madison Square Garden company owns half of it.
If MSG decides that it isn't a property that they want to keep as a holding, the first thing they'll do is see if they can find a buyer for their stake. Maybe Live Nation, AEG, or someone else would be interested in buying the MSG stake, maybe not. But no company is just going to write it off as a loss without seeing whether they can recoup their investment or even make a profit on the sale.
Should MSG not find a buyer and decide to take a loss, effectively shutting down Boston Calling, then you're sure to see Live Nation or someone else step in with another festival to take its place (figuring that there's probably more money in it for them to wholly own a new festival than buy a 50% stake in an existing festival). There's no way that the Boston area winds up as the only major metropolitan area without a big music festival. That's not going to happen.
There’s no way the third headliner is The Weeknd, right? Can’t imagine they have that kind of money
He mentioned doing a stadium tour, right? That wouldn't indicate doing many, if any, festivals in 2022.
Yeah Id put this in the highly unlikely category, seems too expensive and honestly I'm not 100% sure BC would go after him. Obviously he's popular and BC is fairly multi-genre but I'm not sure he'd jive with the line ups they put together, it would be like Major Lazer in 2017.
