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If Hurley goes to the Lakers, who are UCONN going to hire? That's very interesting. It's so late in the game now.
There would be a thirty-day window for their recruits to find new schools, but the program itself would be pretty fucked next season because the portal is otherwise closed now.
If Hurley goes to the Lakers, who are UCONN going to hire? That's very interesting. It's so late in the game now.
There would be a thirty-day window for their recruits to find new schools, but the program itself would be pretty fucked next season because the portal is otherwise closed now.
I’m guessing UCONN would try to hire Kimani Young and hope he can retain the current players and staff to keep things rolling. But if Hurley takes his UCONN staff to LA they are fucked.
I'm seeing some people on Twitter saying they think it's a negotiating tactic for Hurley. I doubt that, or I at least doubt that's all it is. If he wanted to press UCONN he probably would have at least taken a meeting with Kentucky a few weeks ago. Also the fact that it's leaked after we know the search has been ongoing for some time suggests that there is genuine interest to me.
I also think they're already motivated to pay him as much as they can and provide the best facilities that they can, and he knows that. If he pushes too hard financially he could damage the program. They don't have unlimited money.
I'm seeing some people on Twitter saying they think it's a negotiating tactic for Hurley. I doubt that, or I at least doubt that's all it is. If he wanted to press UCONN he probably would have at least taken a meeting with Kentucky a few weeks ago. Also the fact that it's leaked after we know the search has been ongoing for some time suggests that there is genuine interest to me.
I also think they're already motivated to pay him as much as they can and provide the best facilities that they can, and he knows that. If he pushes too hard financially he could damage the program. They don't have unlimited money.
Honestly when I saw the news shift from Reddick to Hurley and the way Woj is talking about Hurley implementing a long term plan and improving player development my mind immediately went to Lebron. Either the Lakers know Lebron is gone or they want to publicly let him know they’re ready to move on
I'm seeing some people on Twitter saying they think it's a negotiating tactic for Hurley. I doubt that, or I at least doubt that's all it is. If he wanted to press UCONN he probably would have at least taken a meeting with Kentucky a few weeks ago. Also the fact that it's leaked after we know the search has been ongoing for some time suggests that there is genuine interest to me.
I also think they're already motivated to pay him as much as they can and provide the best facilities that they can, and he knows that. If he pushes too hard financially he could damage the program. They don't have unlimited money.
Honestly when I saw the news shift from Reddick to Hurley and the way Woj is talking about Hurley implementing a long term plan and improving player development my mind immediately went to Lebron. Either the Lakers know Lebron is gone or they want to publicly let him know they’re ready to move on
That's possible. I already heard Matt Norlander say in a clip that Hurley would basically need to be assured that he would only have to deal with LeBron for a year or two and would ultimately outlive him.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Jun 6, 2024 10:57:28 GMT -5
I mean, anything is possible, but Hurley moving to the NBA, and specifically the Lakers - right now - doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I could list them all but I doubt anyone cares enough.
Also for what it's worth, people actually connected to UConn seem pretty sure he's not going anywhere. Reminiscent of the Coach K situation a couple decades ago.
I mean, anything is possible, but Hurley moving to the NBA, and specifically the Lakers - right now - doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I could list them all but I doubt anyone cares enough.
Also for what it's worth, people actually connected to UConn seem pretty sure he's not going anywhere. Reminiscent of the Coach K situation a couple decades ago.
I’d be curious what your reasons are. If the Lakers are actually interested I don’t see why he would turn it down, he can flop and still have basically any job in college basketball when he comes back.
I mean, anything is possible, but Hurley moving to the NBA, and specifically the Lakers - right now - doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I could list them all but I doubt anyone cares enough.
Also for what it's worth, people actually connected to UConn seem pretty sure he's not going anywhere. Reminiscent of the Coach K situation a couple decades ago.
I’d be curious what your reasons are. If the Lakers are actually interested I don’t see why he would turn it down, he can flop and still have basically any job in college basketball when he comes back.
He’ll have the Lakers job for a few years and then will be the coach at Duke.
Post by piggy pablo on Jun 6, 2024 11:48:50 GMT -5
Yeah. College basketball will literally always be there for him, and he's going to take that NBA challenge at some point. He openly talked about it an interview with Mike Francesca yesterday, unprompted. He has alluded to not quite feeling ready for it, not having the best temperament, but is he really going to let that stop him? He also loves to complain about the portal.
And yes, we want to hear what the UCONN fan thinks the reasons he won't leave are, actually. I would not find that boring.
I mean, anything is possible, but Hurley moving to the NBA, and specifically the Lakers - right now - doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I could list them all but I doubt anyone cares enough.
Also for what it's worth, people actually connected to UConn seem pretty sure he's not going anywhere. Reminiscent of the Coach K situation a couple decades ago.
I’d be curious what your reasons are. If the Lakers are actually interested I don’t see why he would turn it down, he can flop and still have basically any job in college basketball when he comes back.
For starters, the rationale you described - if the Lakers want you, why turn it down, you can always go back - is exactly what people were saying about Coach K when the Lakers pursued him in 2004.
But yeah sure, here you go. (This might get long, sorry.) First, the biggest reasons to go are "it's the Lakers", "it's the NBA" and "money." Starting with the money thing, it sounds like Kentucky was ready to offer him 12m/year to take over there, and that went nowhere. So let's assume the number has to be higher than that, which would make Hurley one of the 5 highest paid coaches in the league. Is that something the Lakers are actually willing to do? Because it doesn't match their M.O. at all. Next, Hurley is very much a College Coach. It's fair to question whether his persona/schtick would translate to NBA players, or if he'd really want to. Plus, at this point, the Lakers head coach is basically an empty suit - this is LeBron's show right now. Is Hurley the kind of guy who could stomach having to share decision making or risk being undermined by a player? And yeah, it's possible that the Lakers know that LeBron is leaving or they're moving on from him, but one of the things Woj said today was that the Lakers saw Hurley as an ideal guy to develop Bronny James, so if that's one of their reasons, it doesn't sound like they think LeBron is going anywhere. It's just a very hard situation to see Hurley meshing with.
Moving on, Hurley and his family are very much northeast people. Apparently his wife had some pretty big opposition just to the idea of moving from Jersey to Rhode Island to Connecticut, so who knows.
Back to the money thing, the timing of this all is super suspicious. The Lakers have been openly pursuing Redick, but it sounds like they had a hard time agreeing on a deal because he wanted too much. Now, suddenly, Hurley has actually been their first choice for a while? And Hurley is negotiating his own deal at UConn, so both sides have good reason for putting this out there for leverage. (And nobody really thought he'd go to Kentucky for the money they would offer because Kentucky is a has-been program which offers zero upgrade over UConn, whereas the Lakers are arguably the most iconic NBA team of all time, so he'd get leverage from Lakers talks that he wouldn't necessarily get from Kentucky.) Also who knows if it means anything, but Hurley has the same agent as Geno Auriemma, who just signed a huge contract extension this week. So his agent probably has a pretty good idea of where UConn stands in terms of what it can offer where he's in a position to push for the most possible.
With respect to basketball stuff, Hurley is basically in a perfect spot right now. Coming off back to back titles and the most dominant postseason run(s) ever, currently the favorite (or within the top 3) to win it all again next year, with a roster he just spent a month-plus reloading. He's great at navigating the transfer portal and recruiting will be a breeze for a while. Contrast that to the Lakers, where he's either inheriting an aging roster with no real assets in a loaded conference with no realistic hope at immediate contention, or basically that same thing just without LeBron James. Hurley's been pretty open in his desire to build a legacy/dynasty, so it would be weird for him to abandon that to take a shot in a very difficult basketball situation with little upside. (There's something to be said for the Lakers having had something like 6 coaches in the last 15 years.) Also on the basketball side, he didn't just spend the last 6 weeks signing big names in the transfer portal and luring top recruits, he also (reportedly) urged Karaban to come back to UConn by telling him "if you're stuck in a difficult decision and aren't sure whether to leave or stay, staying is the best option." He and Karaban are reportedly close, it would be extremely out of character for him to tell the kid to come back to school just last week if he was planning on running off. And yeah, caveat that college coaches are all mercenaries etc.
That said, it's certainly possible, and I wouldn't be surprised nor hold it against him. Guy just dominated the NCAA for two straight years, if the most iconic NBA franchise backs a dump truck of money to his house, godspeed. I just think there are plenty of reasons why it might not happen, plus Hurley's a very weird guy.
Either way I think this all gets wrapped up in a day or two. The NBA draft is right around the corner, so the Lakers need to lock someone in, UConn's going to want to figure out a succession plan if Hurley leaves (I'd love for Kimani Young to take over and keep the staff together but who knows), they need to let the players know ASAP so they can make moves if they want, etc.
Post by piggy pablo on Jun 6, 2024 11:55:50 GMT -5
The Lakers job isn't always going to be there for him. I don't think that's true. Massive difference between the Lakers and college ball. Even if Kentucky is a has-been program (lol), they can still offer him that 12M in a couple years after he's already gotten a huge guaranteed deal from the NBA. It's not gonna work the other way around, necessarily.
Post by Larry Farnsworth on Jun 6, 2024 11:58:10 GMT -5
Also like I said, people who actually have ties to/ins with the UConn program are all of the mind that Hurley ends up staying. Of course, those kind of people are wrong all the time, but that's apparently the vibe.
The Lakers job isn't always going to be there for him. I don't think that's true. Massive difference between the Lakers and college ball. Even if Kentucky is a has-been program (lol), they can still offer him that 12M in a couple years after he's already gotten a huge guaranteed deal from the NBA. It's not gonna work the other way around, necessarily.
Eh, look at Billy Donovan. Won b2b at Florida, actually agreed to coach Orlando and the reneged in the funniest possible way, coached Florida for 8 more years before finally making the jump to the NBA.
Honestly though, out of all the reasons "why not", the one that sticks with me is that Hurley just seems born to be a college coach. Can't at all imagine him in an NBA setting.
But like I said, if he did take the job, I'd 100% understand and no UConn fan should hold it against him in any way.
Post by Whereispassionpit on Jun 6, 2024 12:44:57 GMT -5
Fair points, agree that he seems like the kind of control freak that works in college and not the NBA.
The part about Hurley being a northeast guy reminds of when Mick Cronin was interviewing for UCLA. A lot of talk from Cincinnati fans about him being a midwest guy, wouldn’t want to make his daughter move, salary isn’t that good when you consider taxes (lol). Maybe I’m biased but I think the West Coast suits literally everyone who is a multimillionaire.
Post by piggy pablo on Jun 6, 2024 13:01:57 GMT -5
If I got a job offer from the Lakers and my wife wouldn't let me because she loved New Jersey too much I honestly would consider divorce. Like, come on.
If I got a job offer from the Lakers and my wife wouldn't let me because she loved New Jersey too much I honestly would consider divorce. Like, come on.
I was talking about this with my wife a few days ago. Pretty from Jersey act like they really love Jersey and they let everyone know it for some reason.
If I got a job offer from the Lakers and my wife wouldn't let me because she loved New Jersey too much I honestly would consider divorce. Like, come on.
I was talking about this with my wife a few days ago. Pretty from Jersey act like they really love Jersey and they let everyone know it for some reason.
They probably have a really great view of Manhattan.