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Rooting for you guys on Monday night - would rather have our regular season finale against the Browns be a meaningless games for them.
Have a feeling it will be for the division.
Out of everyone in the AFC North you guys deserve it the most this year, honestly hoping my Browns lose out to secure the 4th place schedule and better draft pick b/c even if we somehow won the division we're not doing shit in the playoffs. Bengals on the other hand definitely have a good chance at making some noise in the playoffs
Rooting for you guys on Monday night - would rather have our regular season finale against the Browns be a meaningless games for them.
Have a feeling it will be for the division.
Out of everyone in the AFC North you guys deserve it the most this year, honestly hoping my Browns lose out to secure the 4th place schedule and better draft pick b/c even if we somehow won the division we're not doing shit in the playoffs. Bengals on the other hand definitely have a good chance at making some noise in the playoffs
It’s been a fun season - drafting Burrow changed the franchise overnight. Don’t see us though having enough to knock off KC Sunday, and I don’t see the Ravens having enough to knock down LA this week either. If that comes true, and you guys beat Pittsburgh Monday night - then the season finale between us is for the division. Refs we’re not kind to you all in anyway on Christmas. Have a feeling if we lose to KC that Cleveland will play pretty motivated Monday night knowing they have a chance at the division.
Rooting for you guys on Monday night - would rather have our regular season finale against the Browns be a meaningless games for them.
Have a feeling it will be for the division.
Out of everyone in the AFC North you guys deserve it the most this year, honestly hoping my Browns lose out to secure the 4th place schedule and better draft pick b/c even if we somehow won the division we're not doing shit in the playoffs. Bengals on the other hand definitely have a good chance at making some noise in the playoffs
Browns definitely wouldn’t do jack in the playoffs but rooting for them to lose is insanity. It wasn’t even 5 years ago I would’ve killed just have the 2nd half of the season matter. Fuck the draft position.
Out of everyone in the AFC North you guys deserve it the most this year, honestly hoping my Browns lose out to secure the 4th place schedule and better draft pick b/c even if we somehow won the division we're not doing shit in the playoffs. Bengals on the other hand definitely have a good chance at making some noise in the playoffs
Browns definitely wouldn’t do jack in the playoffs but rooting for them to lose is insanity. It wasn’t even 5 years ago I would’ve killed just have the 2nd half of the season matter. Fuck the draft position.
See I totally get that too, but in the grand scheme of things I'd rather go into 2022-23 with a healthy Baker and stellar 1st round WR going up against the Jags, Giants, and Broncos rather than the Chiefs, Titans, and Cowboys
Browns definitely wouldn’t do jack in the playoffs but rooting for them to lose is insanity. It wasn’t even 5 years ago I would’ve killed just have the 2nd half of the season matter. Fuck the draft position.
See I totally get that too, but in the grand scheme of things I'd rather go into 2022-23 with a healthy Baker and stellar 1st round WR going up against the Jags, Giants, and Broncos rather than the Chiefs, Titans, and Cowboys
Fair, that schedule would def be easier but would be less entertainment value for me personally.
Anybody who would rather a better draft pick than a win any given week is a fake fan
As a fan of an aggressively average team, I respectfully disagree. There’s a tipping point in a season (<5 wins) where you start looking at the draft board, and the losses don’t hurt as much. You start to sell yourself hope. That said, I’ll never be mad about beating a division rival in that situation.
Anybody who would rather a better draft pick than a win any given week is a fake fan
No true Scotsman amirite? I'm not actively rooting for my team to lose out, I'm just acknowledging that in the long run it would likely be better if they did. If the Browns end up crushing the Steelers on Monday I'll be thrilled, but I'm also not going to freak out if they fall apart again
Anybody who would rather a better draft pick than a win any given week is a fake fan
Nah. You get to a point in a meaningless season where you're hurting yourself winning. As a fan of a team that lived in mediocrity for seventeen years (fourteen seasons between six and nine wins in a seventeen year playoff drought) I can fully understand the allure of picking up a difference maker to help get you to the next level.
Does your strength of finish affect the interconference one-off game? Didn't know that.
Yes. That's how we got the Titans this year. So the first place schedule, you're basically playing 3 extra first place teams (2 in conference, 1 out of conference) along with 2 other first place teams that will be on your schedule due to the division vs. division games (in and out of conference). That means a first place team [tm past] now has 6 (edit 5 I think) games with other first place teams from the previous season. There are usually some quality teams that stick around for a while. And there's the Patriots who are almost always up there.
Conversely, that 4th place finish gets you the extra 3 games with other bottom-feeder teams. It's anecdotal, but it seems to me there are certain teams that stay at or near the bottom most years. These would be teams like Jacksonville, Washington, NY Jets, Lions.
Anybody who would rather a better draft pick than a win any given week is a fake fan
Nah. You get to a point in a meaningless season where you're hurting yourself winning. As a fan of a team that lived in mediocrity for seventeen years (fourteen seasons between six and nine wins in a seventeen year playoff drought) I can fully understand the allure of picking up a difference maker to help get you to the next level.
It's a valid point, but I'm going to agree with Teddy since I have this fight with people all the time. I'd rather never tank when my team has a chance to win. There may be long term benefits to improving draft position, but I like that the NBA has made it only slightly more possible for the worst team to get the first pick. Conversely, I don't have a problem with sandbagging at the end of the season if you have everything locked up that you can.
Post by Dave Maynar on Dec 29, 2021 15:16:55 GMT -5
I went to Marshall's today, and I got reminded of how random the sports merch ends up there. There were tumblers for the Saints and Texans (and Texas Longhorns) along with a Texas Tech bowl, a Clemson academic year calendar, and a TCU branded jenga. Aside from Clemson, I cannot imagine that Knoxville is a huge hotbed of any of those teams' fanbases.
Nah. You get to a point in a meaningless season where you're hurting yourself winning. As a fan of a team that lived in mediocrity for seventeen years (fourteen seasons between six and nine wins in a seventeen year playoff drought) I can fully understand the allure of picking up a difference maker to help get you to the next level.
It's a valid point, but I'm going to agree with Teddy since I have this fight with people all the time. I'd rather never tank when my team has a chance to win. There may be long term benefits to improving draft position, but I like that the NBA has made it only slightly more possible for the worst team to get the first pick. Conversely, I don't have a problem with sandbagging at the end of the season if you have everything locked up that you can.
Really, if you aren't in play for one of the top couple of picks it's not a huge deal. It also depends on the QB market for the year and your team's need at QB.
There was definitely a point (or several points) in the drought where the Bills would've been better served just tanking and completely rebooting rather than just letting things play out and make the best of it. If you're going to do it, you've got to go all in.
Post by piggy pablo on Dec 29, 2021 15:51:04 GMT -5
Losing a couple games at the end of the year to move up like four spots in the middle of the draft doesn't seem worth it. That scheduling thing legitimately sucks though. Might be worth it for that in a strong division.
Nah. You get to a point in a meaningless season where you're hurting yourself winning. As a fan of a team that lived in mediocrity for seventeen years (fourteen seasons between six and nine wins in a seventeen year playoff drought) I can fully understand the allure of picking up a difference maker to help get you to the next level.
It's a valid point, but I'm going to agree with Teddy since I have this fight with people all the time. I'd rather never tank when my team has a chance to win. There may be long term benefits to improving draft position, but I like that the NBA has made it only slightly more possible for the worst team to get the first pick. Conversely, I don't have a problem with sandbagging at the end of the season if you have everything locked up that you can.
who was the last high pick? Bush? I guarantee the paper bags on heads fans were hoping to lose games for a difference maker
They weren’t then. All they wanted was a win. I think that was 1980, and we still had season tickets. We finally beat the Jets in like Week #15, and it was mad celebration. The bag heads (A’ints) were wallowing in misery. Bush got drafted in ‘06 which was Payton’s first year coming off the Katrina/Jim Haslett 3-13 year we played away. Before Bush we did have that Ricky Williams pick andwe sucked during Ditka. But before that we had good teams under Jim Mora and a couple .500 ish teams with Bum. So we were often a middle of the draft team - say picks 7-16 range. That’s not to say that some people don’t always call for tanking here (NBA too). I fight with them about it, and that sentiment applies to fans of any team that is floundering. All I care about is wins except like I said, if you want to sandbag the end of the season to get players rest.
Yeah. There's always reasons and arguments to be made regarding winning and losing. I don't think people hated Haslett. He got us our first playoff win (only took like 40 years). And nobody blamed him for the city getting destroyed. That's probably the only season I watched limited Saints games because I was too busy on the weekends gutting my house. Gotta get those maps up since almost every game this week is on Sunday. I haven't checked yet to see if both networks have double-headers or if it's 2/1.