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I don’t feel like NFL officiating made many friends or got any converts this weekend. But DP is speaking for most NFL fans in many other games or the NFL at large. Most of the Cowboys penalties seemed justified, particularly the critical ones in the 4th.
Big Ben getting the jump out beating instead of getting one more chance. He was good but time is up. So GTFO
I’m 4/5 in that I didn’t think any road teams were likely to win but possibly the Cardinals. You gotta know I bet on that one mf’n game that went the other way too. Dicks.
I don’t feel like NFL officiating made many friends or got any converts this weekend. But DP is speaking for most NFL fans in many other games or the NFL at large. Most of the Cowboys penalties seemed justified, particularly the critical ones in the 4th.
Big Ben getting the jump out beating instead of getting one more chance. He was good but time is up. So GTFO
I don't care how bad the officiating was (and it wasn't that bad for the Cowboys), to say that it's not cool to throw things at players but it's ok to throw at the refs (after an extremely boneheaded play ended their season) reeks of something rotten to me.
And I generally like Dak, no problem with him. That wasn't a good thing to say.
I don’t feel like NFL officiating made many friends or got any converts this weekend. But DP is speaking for most NFL fans in many other games or the NFL at large. Most of the Cowboys penalties seemed justified, particularly the critical ones in the 4th.
Big Ben getting the jump out beating instead of getting one more chance. He was good but time is up. So GTFO
I don't care how bad the officiating was (and it wasn't that bad for the Cowboys), to say that it's not cool to throw things at players but it's ok to throw at the refs (after an extremely boneheaded play ended their season) reeks of something rotten to me.
And I generally like Dak, no problem with him. That wasn't a good thing to say.
I respect you taking the high road. I’m a Saints fan. I have zero love lost for NFL officiating or the Goodell Administration. They can all smmfd. I don’t want anyone to go to the hospital, but if somebody threw a plastic water bottle at a ref or maybe a shitty cop, I’m not turning them in.
I don't care how bad the officiating was (and it wasn't that bad for the Cowboys), to say that it's not cool to throw things at players but it's ok to throw at the refs (after an extremely boneheaded play ended their season) reeks of something rotten to me.
And I generally like Dak, no problem with him. That wasn't a good thing to say.
I respect you taking the high road. I’m a Saints fan. I have zero love lost for NFL officiating or the Goodell Administration. They can all smmfd. I don’t want anyone to go to the hospital, but if somebody threw a plastic water bottle at a ref or maybe a shitty cop, I’m not turning them in.
As a professional you don't encourage fans to throw shit on the field. Don't expect it to be limited to empty water bottles. (You can just look at the coverage of last night's Bills' game for an alternative thing thrown on the field.)
Acting like the refs deserved it is immature and dangerous.
that ref probably ran his fastest 40 in years to get to that snap, that was on Dak (and the center) and the play call
I fully agree and called that out earlier in the thread. They fucked up handing the ball to the center to begin with but it’s 100% crisis time then. The play was executed. You don’t have :04 to spike and regroup. You have to be all in on a TD throw or gadget play that you feel /might/ get you a TD. You literally have less than a second. You have to steward that shit as a QB. So like us, but for many different reasons, Dallas wasted a quality roster.
I don't care how bad the officiating was (and it wasn't that bad for the Cowboys), to say that it's not cool to throw things at players but it's ok to throw at the refs (after an extremely boneheaded play ended their season) reeks of something rotten to me.
And I generally like Dak, no problem with him. That wasn't a good thing to say.
I respect you taking the high road. I’m a Saints fan. I have zero love lost for NFL officiating or the Goodell Administration. They can all smmfd. I don’t want anyone to go to the hospital, but if somebody threw a plastic water bottle at a ref or maybe a shitty cop, I’m not turning them in.
I respect you taking the high road. I’m a Saints fan. I have zero love lost for NFL officiating or the Goodell Administration. They can all smmfd. I don’t want anyone to go to the hospital, but if somebody threw a plastic water bottle at a ref or maybe a shitty cop, I’m not turning them in.
As a professional you don't encourage fans to throw shit on the field. Don't expect it to be limited to empty water bottles. (You can just look at the coverage of last night's Bills' game for an alternative thing thrown on the field.)
Acting like the refs deserved it is immature and dangerous.
I expect he'll see a hefty fine.
In the heat of the interview and relative immediacy of the aftermath of the game (he’s the leader) - if he for some reason thought fans threw shit at his teammates as many people did, but then found out it was at the officials, I think you have to forgive him and understand the perspective. He will get fined or talked to or something, but I feel like I understand that if I step in his shoes. Where I would agree with you and disagree with him would be if he said that more premeditated as if the officials cost them the game. They fucked up enough on their own IMHO
I respect you taking the high road. I’m a Saints fan. I have zero love lost for NFL officiating or the Goodell Administration. They can all smmfd. I don’t want anyone to go to the hospital, but if somebody threw a plastic water bottle at a ref or maybe a shitty cop, I’m not turning them in.
Saints fan wanting to injure people huh?
Yeah that’s what I insinuated. Nice try. And if you get technical, I don’t really want them to injure their throats sucking on it. No.
likely Big Ben's last game, didn't completely embarrass himself, easy first ballot HoF I feel, but complicated legacy for very obvious reasons
to some extent I feel like he may be the first big test of a modern HoF to not accept people accused of SA. Definitely more of an issue now, and there's players like LT who predate it being a big issue and guys like Tyreek Hill could very well get in. will be an interesting 'tag me in 5 years' situation
*5th in completions, attempts, 8th in tds, 2 sbs, 6 pro bowls, no APs which might be a nice excuse for him to not get in, finished 1 shy of Brees in postseason TDs
likely Big Ben's last game, didn't completely embarrass himself, easy first ballot HoF I feel, but complicated legacy for very obvious reasons
to some extent I feel like he may be the first big test of a modern HoF to not accept people accused of SA. Definitely more of an issue now, and there's players like LT who predate it being a big issue and guys like Tyreek Hill could very well get in. will be an interesting 'tag me in 5 years' situation
*5th in completions, attempts, 8th in tds, 2 sbs, 6 pro bowls, no APs which might be a nice excuse for him to not get in, finished 1 shy of Brees in postseason TDs
I'm trying to work out my thoughts on this. Probably won't bore you guys with them but I can finally be back 100% in since he's gone - but now do I have it in me? I'm not a diehard like Esteban. I wonder if I will be able to get it back.
Post by piggy pablo on Jan 17, 2022 0:26:00 GMT -5
Just finished the Cowboys game on DVR. Team was way too comfortable giving away yards and plays, with penalties and just a seeming lack of urgency on first down imo. Too many bad plays to list, but Randy Gregory lined up offside on the first play of the game. Like what are you doing? He also had a penalty on a play late that basically sealed our fate. Ceedee not lining up on time and Dak snapping the ball was also fucking brutal. A sad effort against a team that had plus matchups against us between their run game, Deebo, and pass rush.
Post by piggy pablo on Jan 17, 2022 0:34:09 GMT -5
Hilarious Dak said that. Good line. But take some responsibility. That loss was on the team. Blew a completely winnable game by getting behind in the first half. Looking at the last play alone is a joke. Dak had so many chances to make plus plays but continued to throw the ball off-target and take sacks. I honestly think Dak is really talented but his mindset is a little entitled. If he didn't think he was as good as he thinks he is, he would be as good as he thinks he is.
likely Big Ben's last game, didn't completely embarrass himself, easy first ballot HoF I feel, but complicated legacy for very obvious reasons
to some extent I feel like he may be the first big test of a modern HoF to not accept people accused of SA. Definitely more of an issue now, and there's players like LT who predate it being a big issue and guys like Tyreek Hill could very well get in. will be an interesting 'tag me in 5 years' situation
*5th in completions, attempts, 8th in tds, 2 sbs, 6 pro bowls, no APs which might be a nice excuse for him to not get in, finished 1 shy of Brees in postseason TDs
I'm trying to work out my thoughts on this. Probably won't bore you guys with them but I can finally be back 100% in since he's gone - but now do I have it in me? I'm not a diehard like Esteban. I wonder if I will be able to get it back.
I hope he doesn't get in but I wouldn't doubt it. could see him not getting 1st just to offset whatever bad press but I imagine it will be brought up enough that it will effect his voting
Post by Vinnie the Eel on Jan 17, 2022 8:43:55 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what I'll dislike about the steelers now that Big Ben and presumedly Juju are gone. I guess I'll just tolerate them? I love Pittsburgh, tons of friends are fans of the teams, but I really want bad things to happen to Ben
I honestly don't know what I'll dislike about the steelers now that Big Ben and presumedly Juju are gone. I guess I'll just tolerate them? I love Pittsburgh, tons of friends are fans of the teams, but I really want bad things to happen to Ben
The same way I felt about the Ravens and Ray Lewis.
I'm trying to work out my thoughts on this. Probably won't bore you guys with them but I can finally be back 100% in since he's gone - but now do I have it in me? I'm not a diehard like Esteban. I wonder if I will be able to get it back.
I hope he doesn't get in but I wouldn't doubt it. could see him not getting 1st just to offset whatever bad press but I imagine it will be brought up enough that it will effect his voting
No, I wasn't referring to his HOF chances - he'll get in, of course. I was referring to growing up a Steeler fan who found his actions to be disqualifying in rooting for him. I'm in the minority - plenty of high school and college friends, family, church friends, etc all would trot out the same excuses: the Tahoe girl made everything up, the Milledgeville girl was "asking for it", he was never charged with a crime - you know all of the arguments. My interest in the team at that point waned a lot. I couldn't tell you much of anything about the 2010 season when the Steelers lost to the Packers in the Super Bowl. I can't tell you much from 2011-2016 - don't know which years they made the playoffs, don't remember the start of Antonio Brown Superstar (don't remember him before he was a prima donna). I was sucked back in a little when they drafted James Conner from Pitt (my favorite college player ever).
I'm wondering now if I have it in me to get back to where I was pre-Ben-the questionable character guy*. Probably not because I've lost a lot of passion for a lot of things as I've gotten older. But will I be able to even memorize the roster, or the schedule? Will I read every word about the draft? I don't know.
Saturday 3:30pm CST Bengals @ Titans on CBS (Ian Eagle, Charles Davis)
Saturday 7:00pm CST 49ers @ Packers on Fox (Joe Buck, Troy Aikman)
Sunday 2:00pm CST Winner of Rams vs. Cards on NBC (Al Michaels @ Cris Collinsworth)
Sunday 5:30pm CST Bills @ Chiefs on CBS (Jim Nantz & Tony Romo)
Also there are a bunch of fight videos outside of AT&T Stadium floating around. None of them that I saw were all that great. One article spoke of all hell breaking loose in a large brawl, but it was pretty stupid. Fucking dunces.
He’s never going to top the black hat day doing the Texas two step and then bringing Skip the empty present box. He hates him some Cowboys. Otherwise I don’t much pay attention to him, but it’s halfway comical whenever the Cowboys lose an important game.